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Google Voice Opens To All

An anonymous reader writes "Google Voice is now open to anyone in the US, removing the need to search for an invite. At the Google Voice site, anyone with a US IP address and a US phone number can sign up for an account. Non-US IPs are blocked, and non-US-based phone numbers are prevented from attaching to Google Voice (with the single odd exception of the 403 area code of southern Alberta)." Good timing on the part of Frontier Communications Corp., which just filed a lawsuit claiming that the Google Voice feature connecting a user's home, work, and cell phone numbers to another number infringes one of their patents.

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  1. WTF by linhares · · Score: 5, Insightful

    since when US=ALL?

    1. Re:WTF by 7213 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Roughly, the end of WWII. Or if you're lazy, we'll just call it 1950.

    2. Re:WTF by Kitkoan · · Score: 4, Funny

      since when US=ALL?

      Reminds me of that joke about the UN poll.

      Last month, a world survey was conducted by the UN. The only question asked was: "Would you please give your honest opinion about solutions to the food shortage in the rest of the world." The survey was a huge failure...

      Africa they didn't know what "food" meant.

      Eastern Europe they didn't know what "honest" meant.

      Western Europe they didn't know what "shortage" meant.

      China they didn't know what "opinion" meant.

      the Middle East they didn't know what "solution" meant.

      South America they didn't know what "please" meant, and

      the USA they didn't know what "the rest of the world" meant.

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    3. Re:WTF by pete-classic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Allow me to introduce you to the concept of "context". This is a US-based, and US-centric site. Surely you can understand this.

      Here's another example from Auntie Beeb. Am I meant to gather that all women around the world can obtain contraceptives from UK National Health Service? Of course not. Context. Learn about it. Live it. Love it.

      -Peter

    4. Re:WTF by camperdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What about Canada and Mexico?

      They were the ones who asked the question.

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    5. Re:WTF by value_added · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is a US-based, and US-centric site. Surely you can understand this.

      No need to shout. You could have said "It's all about us".

      Or something like that. ;-)

    6. Re:WTF by linhares · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Allow me to introduce you to the concept of "context". This is a US-based, and US-centric site.

      Allow me to introduce you to the concept of "context". This is a US-based, and US-centric site, INSIDE the Internets.com!, which connects us all. The web is the context. If you think slashdot isn't a "global" entity because of its history and server location, tell me why it is always talking about things like Ubuntu or thepiratebay or linux or skype or; well i could go on but laziness is also global.

    7. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      1) Slashdot has a significant number of users from other countries.
      2) Google is a multi-national corporation that provides most of its services to any country with Internet access that hasn't explicitly blocked them. The UK NHS isn't.

    8. Re:WTF by bernywork · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apparently the Australians hung up when they heard the indian accent....

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    9. Re:WTF by Pootie+Tang · · Score: 5, Informative

      /. FAQ: http://slashdot.org/faq/editorial.shtml#ed850

      Slashdot seems to be very U.S.-centric. Do you have any plans to be more international in your scope?

      Slashdot is U.S.-centric. We readily admit this, and really don't see it as a problem. Slashdot is run by Americans, after all, and the vast majority of our readership is in the U.S. We're certainly not opposed to doing more international stories, but we don't have any formal plans for making that happen. All we can really tell you is that if you're outside the U.S. and you have news, submit it, and if it looks interesting, we'll post it.

      It is worth noting that there is a Japanese Slashdot run by VA Japan. While we helped them a little in their early days, they essentially run their own content without any real involvement from us... none of us can read Kanji! There are currently no plans to do other language or nation specific Slashdot sites.

    10. Re:WTF by ashridah · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Allow me to introduce you to the concept of "context". This is a US-based, and US-centric site. Surely you can understand this.

      That, for some reason, keeps posting stories about Australia. Riiiight.

    11. Re:WTF by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Funny

      Huh? That is the rest of the world! /me waves his American flag

    12. Re:WTF by MBGMorden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Indeed. Complaining about Slashdot's US centric state is a bit like going to a friends house and complaining about what they cooked. They don't mind you hanging out, and they don't mind you taking part in dinner, but if you don't like what's being served - shut up or leave.

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    13. Re:WTF by jaymz666 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I would give a +1 funny if I had one

    14. Re:WTF by schlick · · Score: 4, Funny

      We are Americans... Stories about Australia are kinda like watching the show Cops. http://bash.org/?262417

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    15. Re:WTF by multi+io · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Allow me to introduce you to the concept of "context". This is a US-based, and US-centric site. Surely you can understand this.

      The fact that Slashdot is a US-centric site is obviously totally unrelated to the question of why Google opened Google Voice to US internet users only.

    16. Re:WTF by Eth1csGrad1ent · · Score: 3, Insightful

      except Slashdot is commercial enterprise, so its more like going to a friend's restaurant and complaining about the food that you ordered and paid for. They don't mind you paying to hang out, and they don't mind selling you dinner, but if you don't like whats being served - shut up or leave.

      and hey... nothing says you can't do that.

      But I would point out that the tag line ISN'T "News for Nerds (in the US). Stuff that matters (to nerds in the US)", and furthermore, that the site is built on and sustained by commentary, submissions and content from people ALL OVER the globe.
      ie. this "by Americans, for Americans" is pure BS.

    17. Re:WTF by LingNoi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Allow me to introduce you to the concept of "context". This is a US-based, and US-centric site.

      No it's not dude. Your example of context is a .co.uk. As much as you hate it slashdot is a world-centric site. The company that runs slashdot is US based and has nothing to do with anything.

    18. Re:WTF by hitmark · · Score: 2, Insightful

      being any nation centric online, especially when using english, is in this day and age, futile.

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  2. Still rather laggy. by jalano · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google Voice has one critical flaw, and that is it has an inherent "processing delay" that it introduces into the voice path.

    The delay is slightly longer than the delay most cell phones have talking to another cell phone. When you add the Google Voice delay in, it's almost an unbearable 1/3 to 1/2 a second.

    I've used it from my land line calling calling out because of the free calling feature, and for that the delay is tolerable. But I can't justify having it forward to my cell phone because if anyone calls me from a cell phone, the combined lag makes the conversations really hard to have.

    1. Re:Still rather laggy. by yeshuawatso · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've been with this beta since the first invites were sent out and have never experienced a lag. But then again, I stopped using it for voice since it's redundant when using a cell phone. I still lose minutes with or without it. Free text messaging with archive seems to be the best feature, as transcribing hasn't worked for me in a while and when it did, it didn't work very well.

    2. Re:Still rather laggy. by Sancho · · Score: 2, Informative

      I started out using my number as a throwaway. Gave it to companies who I didn't trust with my real number in cases where I needed to have them contact me quickly. The blacklist feature was what really sold me on it. The SMS was just a nice bonus.

      Then I started using the number more and more, and eventually it just became my default number. I gave it out to all my friends and never looked back.

      I've noticed the lag, too. It manifests, in practice, by both parties trying to start talking at once, stopping, restarting, repeating. Occasionally, I'll also have choppy conversations--where the other side thinks I'm cutting out--but that could just as easily be my carrier.

    3. Re:Still rather laggy. by Sancho · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can call Google Voice to initiate a call. You can also (with most cell phones) program your address book with delays between digits. Between these two, you should be able to call from your GV number.

  3. Re:really? by Mitchell314 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here I thought the word "all" was defined as everyone, and not the important 4.5% of the world's population.

    FTFY. :P

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  4. Gizmo5 by BiggoronSword · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I want VoIP! Give it to me Google!

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  5. Re:I am still waiting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am still waiting for google finger, google ear, and google sight to go with google voice.

    I believe you have to be over 40 to qualify for the google finger...

  6. On patents... by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have the impression its impossible to do anything in this country without infringing on some patent somewhere.

    1. Re:On patents... by forkazoo · · Score: 3, Funny

      I have the impression its impossible to do anything in this country without infringing on some patent somewhere.

      Did you license having that impression? You probably should have.

  7. It's good but it could be great by eudaemon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Grandcentral had consensus-based call filtering; numbers flagged by enough people as undesirable got added to a blacklist anyone could subscribe to and Google took it out, which is a shame. Google voice still has trouble turning off some call presentation features - for instance pressing "4" to toggle call recording. Every time you receive a call from an automated system that requires a 4 as input GV just eats the digit. They also removed SIP call handling for anyone but Gizmo 5, another damn shame. Having said that, it is free except for international calls and those are pretty cheap.

    On the upside they already handle texting, making those $20/mo unlimited texting plans redundant. Now we just need EU-like cell plans where "caller pays" and we'd be all set - you can complete google voice calls as inbound to yourself via the mobile and full web pages. Oddly the Android client doesn't offer this feature.

     

    1. Re:It's good but it could be great by Anaerin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Caller pays is common sense. If you call me and blast telemarketing messages down my ear, why should I have to pay for the privilege? If you had to pay extra to receive a long-distance call, would you say that's fair?

    2. Re:It's good but it could be great by nazsco · · Score: 3, Informative

      1. No way to input digits in any system
         (office conferencing, home banking, etc)

      2. A HUGE delay in SMS.
          messages may arrive instantly, or take up to 12hours.
         (using the google voice app on the nexus one. can't get more compliant than this)

      3. Broken SIP support
         (can be worked around if you happen to have a Gizmo account from last century. no way to get one now)

      4. Call recording is only if you receive the call.
         (both ways are legal/ilegal in most country. but they decided to do evil and predict the law anyway)

      5. Still broken as hell for domains.
         (you just get a broken gwt ui. no content. no way to get a number now for your domain account. great way to recompensate for loyalty)

  8. To anybody interested: by phyrexianshaw.ca · · Score: 3, Informative

    the patent in question was http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7742468.html

    which unless I'm HIGHLY mistaken was filed on 09/01/2009, well AFTER google voice was developed and released into beta. PRIOR ART MUCH?

  9. Great SMS-email relay by by+(1706743) · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been using Google Voice as an SMS-email relay to remotely control appliances. Glad more people will have the option of doing the same!

  10. GV is great-- here are two ideas by SethJohnson · · Score: 2, Informative


    I love Google Voice. I use it for my company.

    Two tips:
  11. Re:403 is odd? by snowraver1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nobody cares about the workers; All the head offices are in Calgary.

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  12. I hope they're ready for the additional load by Whuffo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been using Google Voice (previously Grand Central) for years. It's been great to have a stable phone number - home phone or cell phone numbers may change but just tweak the configuration and your Google Voice number is still good. It's worth much more than the price (free) for just this. But there's more!

    When AT&T couldn't figure out how to sign me up for home phone service I started looking into VOIP service - I wanted something with a normal looking and acting telephone that didn't require a computer to work. Gizmo5 provided the answer; they provide standard SIP service which is compatible with numerous SIP phones. With Google Voice forwarding to my Gizmo5 SIP line I've got the best of both worlds - free incoming calls and 1 cent per minute for outbound calls to anywhere in the US, Canada and the European Union. I've been using this setup for over 8 months now and it works great - very good call quality and very reliable service. My total phone bill for those 8 months is just under four dollars.

    Gizmo5 has been closed to new accounts for months now so those who wish to follow in these footsteps will have to wait. And I suspect there's going to be a lot of legal challenges before this is available to all; with good SIP phones (I'm using some Grandstream phones and they're OK) it's almost indistinguishable from AT&T service and many of the features you'd pay extra for from AT&T are free. This will severely impact AT&T's business - as well as the cable companies, Vonage, Magic Jack, etc. who are selling VOIP service at a big profit. The lawsuits should start flying soon and it's going to be interesting to see how those big operators state their case when everyone sees that they're selling very little more than nothing.

    Google Voice and Gizmo5 together is powerful stuff and it's going to shake the telecommunications industry from top to bottom when this is available to everyone. I wonder how far away that day will be...

  13. Wildfire connected incoming calls to other numbers by bihoy · · Score: 2, Interesting
    There certainly seems to have been other instances of prior art, though I do not know what actual patents existed. Wildfire 1.0 was released on October 19, 1994 and provided many of the same features.

    "Wildfire smooths the process of completing calls and helps you be more available to callers. The system does a good job of identifying callers, so you spend much less time than before tapping numbers into the dialpad or looking up information in your Filofax or PIM. For example, the informed call waiting feature asks callers to speak their name, then plays that in your ear only (regardless where you're calling from) so you can decide what to do. If you ignore the call, Wildfire takes a message. If Wildfire identifies the caller by recognizing the name, she can take further action."

  14. 403? by Mr+Z · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean, 403 is not forbidden?

  15. Re:I want unlimited data by HereIAmJH · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you have to pay for data use, *and* cell minutes, what the point of voip other then security?

    I've been waiting for Gizmo to open up again so that I can set up an account for my VOIP desk phone. I couldn't care less if my cell phone can do VOIP, but I haven't had a land line at home for a decade and it would be nice to have an ISP neutral option for SIP.

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  16. slashdot.us by Ilgaz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, let them change the domain to slashdot.us and allow only USA/Canada IPs?

    Not like we (rest of the World) didn't get used to that kind of (Godwin) for a long time.