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White House Unveils Plans For "Trusted Identities In Cyberspace"

Presto Vivace writes with news that the Obama administration's cyber-security coordinater, Howard Schmidt, yesterday unveiled a national plan for "trusted" online identities. Schmidt wrote, "The NSTIC, which is in response to one of the near term action items in the President’s Cyberspace Policy Review, calls for the creation of an online environment, or an Identity Ecosystem as we refer to it in the strategy, where individuals and organizations can complete online transactions with confidence, trusting the identities of each other and the identities of the infrastructure that the transaction runs on. For example, no longer should individuals have to remember an ever-expanding and potentially insecure list of usernames and passwords to login into various online services. Through the strategy we seek to enable a future where individuals can voluntarily choose to obtain a secure, interoperable, and privacy-enhancing credential (e.g., a smart identity card, a digital certificate on their cell phone, etc.) from a variety of service providers — both public and private — to authenticate themselves online for different types of transactions (e.g., online banking, accessing electronic health records, sending email, etc.)." You can read the full draft of the plan (PDF), and the White House is seeking public comments on it as well.

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  1. OpenID? by koreaman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One ID you can use anywhere? Sounds a lot like what the OpenID project is already trying to do. It's a nice concept, but I don't like the idea of anything like this being run by the government. Government interference with the internet seems to be the fastest way to dystopia, these days.

    1. Re:OpenID? by gclef · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's actually a little better and a little worse than what you think. They're proposing setting up a "ecosystem" of identity providers, so commercial organizations will issue identity certs with the gov't just setting the standards they all live by to interoperate, etc. On that front, that isn't as bad as it could have been.

      On the other hand, there is an enormous amount of naivete in their "strategy" about how the identity providers will act. Their examples talk about having your cell phone provider be the organization that issues your identity cert for use in this system. What happens when you change providers? When I shift from Verizon to AT&T, can I move the AT&T cert to my Verizon phone? Also, am I forevermore tied to AT&T for my identity verification? What if that company goes bankrupt? What if you *want* to change identity providers? If you can change providers, what happens to the records that provider kept? What about the records that other information providers tied to the old cert? Do they keep the certificate (and therefore the ability to impersonate you online)? What happens if I lose my phone (and therefore lose my cert)?

      The effort isn't completely crack-addled, but it is hopelessly naive. I think it'll fail unless it gets a big dose of reality shortly.

    2. Re:OpenID? by Alsee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's not nearly as scary as you make it out to be.

      I have studied the technical specifications of this. Yes, it is what I described and more. Either you don't know the Trust system very well or you and I have extremely different ideas about what is good vs what is scary.

      The Trusted Platform Module (TPM) has three primary functions. #1 is to hold the master keys locked away specifically secure against the owner himself. #2 is called Sealed Storage, this encrypts files on the computer and again specifically secured against the owner being able to read or modify his own files except under the strict control and permission of the TPM chip. #3 is called Remote Attestation, this means that the TPM chip keeps a spy log of the hardware and software on your computer specifically for the purpose of sending this log out to remote parties over the internet, and again this spy log is specifically designed to be secure against any control or modification by the owner.

      The TPM chip prohibits you from being able to read or modify YOUR OWN FILES (Sealed Storage) unless you are running precisely the approved and mandatory software and hardware dictated by other people via Remote Attestation. It turns your computer into an insane ultra-DRM system and worse.

      The way Trusted Network Connect works, or any Trust-based software over the internet, the first thing that happens is you get tested for having a TPM chip. If your computer doesn't have a TPM then the connection is denied. If do you have a Trust chip but you didn't "opt-in" and turn it on, again the connection is denied. The next step is the Remote Attestation check. If you are not running a specifically approved operating system you again fail the check and are again denied a connection. This also check that you are running a specifically approved BIOS and an approved bootloader and that all of your drivers are approved. If any of this software has not been specifically approved then you fail the Trust test and again your connection is rejected. If you have attempted to modify any of the system software, or if you are not up to date with all mandatory patches, again you fail the Trust test and again your connection is denied. It then checks exactly what applications you are running (and what you are forbidden to run). For example your ISP could mandate that you be running a specific approved virus scanner and firewall. If you're not, or if you have attempted to modify them, you fail the check and your connection is denied. Or if you are connecting to any sort of music or video site it can enforce that you're running specific uber-DRM software. If you connect to a general website it can check that you have an approved webbrowser and check that you're not doing any sort of ad blocking. And again if you fail the check the connection is denied. And your files get locked under Sealed Storage that enforce all of these same things even when you're offline. If cannot access the Sealed files unless you are not running an exact unmodified approved operating system with the exact unmodified drivers and exact unmodified software (and that you're NOT running any prohibited software).

      It is an ultimate remote ownership of your computer. You get locked out of the entire Trust system and get locked out of your own files and nothing works unless you are running an approved unmodified operating system with approved unmodified software. This chip denies you access or control of your own files if you attempt to modify any of the software or if you attempt to use other software of your own design or your own choice.

      The way they sell it to the public is as a "security system". Trusted Network Connect is advertised as preventing virus infected (or virus vulnerable) computers from getting onto a network and causing damage. If you aren't running an approved operating system, or if you are running custom software, then Trusted Network Connect cannot validate that your computer is uninfected. If you fail the Trust checks then your computer gets "quarantined", denied network access, until you "fix" your computer to match the specific known approved virus-free configuration.

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  2. Yet another OpenID by iamapizza · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So isn't this just another one of those open/secure authentication mechanisms, which means that we're now going to have to remember an ever expanding and potentially insecure methods, instead of passwords, of identifying ourselves to various entities on teh internetz?

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    1. Re:Yet another OpenID by bendodge · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not even that. I'm shocked that here on Slashdot the first couple dozen posts actually take this seriously. IT'S A TRAP. This should be blatantly obvious. The entire point of this is to get rid of online anonymity, which government and legal trolls hate.

      Read this post a few screens up: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1699416&cid=32702330

      I know President Obama is popular here, but everything his administration has proposed for the Internet has sinister long-term ramifications.

      Eric Holder Advocated Internet "Restrictions"
      The Internet "Kill Switch"
      Obama's "Internet Czar"
      Obama's Version of "Net Neutrality"

      These plans do not exactly champion freedom and free speech. Rather, they seek to slowly erode the power of the online masses.

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  3. Trusted? by rossdee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who do you Serve, and Who do you Trust

    -- Galen the Technomage, B5Crusade

  4. A solution looking for a problem by selven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem of authenticating yourself many times to different websites is solved by OpenID. The problem of having a secure web identity is also solved - anyone can put a public key on their homepage and sign everything they write. The inclusion of credit cards and electronic health records suggests the true motive for this policy: trying to tie people's internet identities to real life identities. Thanks, but given that the opinions I post here have already earned me 3 'foes' I'd rather not have every potential employer take a look at my Slashdot account.

    1. Re:A solution looking for a problem by selven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You are assuming that one of my identities is the "actual" me and that all the others are pseudonyms. I reject this view, and believe that 'selven' is an identity on equal footing with the one on my passport. People call me (insert my so-called 'real name' here) therefore I am that person. People call me 'selven' therefore I am also selven. There is nothing inherently more real about one name than the other. So if I set up a public key and start signing all of my posts, anyone who knows my public key can prove that any of my posts was in fact made by me (or with my permission). People who have an established relationship with and trust 'selven' do not need to know my other identity in order to deal with me.

  5. Itsatrap by davegravy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    At fist such a system would be opt-in. Then it would gradually become mandatory in the name of fighting pedophilia (think of the children!) Then you can kiss online anonymity goodbye.

  6. GPGAuth + OpenID + Smartcards/E-tokens. by elucido · · Score: 3, Insightful

    http://www.gpgauth.com/ is a good technology. It's open and it's based around GPG. The main thing holding us back is the lack of hardware standards and lack of hardware in general. We should have the hardware in place otherwise a lot of the software will be useless.

    We need better smartcards, better e-tokens. The idea of putting identity on our cellphones is stupid. Put it on a card so it can be put in your wallet or hidden if necessary. By putting it in your cellphone it's a huge target for hackers.

  7. Quite a few problems by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. I don't trust the government to be competent with this
    2. I don't trust the government to not abuse this power
    The government is perhaps the single most important entity to protect yourself from. If cashflows and internet security are under the government's thumb, then contaband and actions to protect yourself from the government are going to be much harder to come by. I don't want a government ID credit card, I want a closer equivalent to cash, so i can make online purchases with LESS of a paper trail.

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  8. Re:Doesn't the WH have anything better to do? by emt377 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Then you use your retina along with your fingerprint.

    Sure identity theft is always going to be possible but it would be much harder if they had to get your retina than if they just had to memorize your digits and crack a password.

    They don't need your retina. They just need whatever big integer your retina digests to.

  9. Re:Envision it! by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, it's like having a master key that unlocks your house, your car, your office, your filing cabinet, your pot and porn stash, your firesafe, your safe deposit box, your storage unit, etc... and keeping that key on a chain around your wrist, where you'll always be sure you have it. Until someone copies it while you're sleeping, and suddenly they have access to everything.

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  10. Fighting the Anonymous Cowards by roman_mir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Read this proposal for what it is: a different way to name an attempt of removing anonymity from the web.

    The NSTIC, which is in response to one of the near term action items in the President's Cyberspace Policy Review, calls for the creation of an online environment, or an Identity Ecosystem as we refer to it in the strategy, where individuals and organizations can complete online transactions with confidence, trusting the identities of each other and the identities of the infrastructure that the transaction runs on. ...

    - I am sure this is going to be made a requirement for a site to operate at some point, add this to the 'Internet kill switch', add the Patriot Act to it, multiply by Home Land Security and don't forget to factor in the rendition, you are going to have an interesting situation.

    The President will be able to shut down portions of the Internet, he will be able to identify who was saying what and when, this entire thing reeks of totalitarianism - complete control by the government over the dissemination of information and total knowledge of who was saying what on which topic plus ability to take action - shut down the dissenting portions of the web and then 'taking the necessary care' of those, who dare to oppose the government in any way, be it direct opposition to specific policies or be it simply providing information to the people that government wants to keep quiet and providing a forum to discuss this information.

  11. Voluntary eh? by fluffy99 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Except you'll probably be required by the states (who are held hostage by federal funding) to have one to get a drivers license or benefits. This is yet another back-door attempt to institute a national ID card, except this would also happen to let the govt decrypt all your transactions.