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USPTO Grants Bezos Patent On '60s-Era Chargebacks

theodp writes "Chargebacks on computing resources are certainly nothing new, dating to the '60s. But five decades later, the USPTO has deemed Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos' invention — Dynamic Pricing of Web Services Utilization — worthy of a new patent. From the patent: 'Utilization of a storage resource may be measured in terms of a quantity of data stored (e.g., bytes, megabytes (MB), gigabytes (GB), etc.) per unit of time (e.g., second, day, month, etc.). Similarly, communication bandwidth utilization may be measured in terms of a quantity of data transmitted per unit of time (e.g., megabits per second). Processing resource utilization may be measured as an aggregate number of units of processing effort (e.g., central processing unit (CPU) cycles, transactions, etc.) utilized, or as a rate of processing effort utilization per unit of time (e.g., CPU cycles or transactions per second).' Sound familiar, Greyglers? Another example of why it's not wise to grant software patents when people don't know much about computer history."

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  1. Shit! by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's a barrel load of stuff I've forgotten. Should have patented it while I could.

    WAIT!!! Maybe I still can.

    Go on, get off my lawn!

    FFS, someone should take a hatchet to the US PTO. Don't they need to reduce the budget or something?

     

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    1. Re:Shit! by amentajo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      No, increase the budget instead: give perks to employees that deny patents like this.

    2. Re:Shit! by nacturation · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, increase the budget instead: give perks to employees that deny patents like this.

      Sorry, but someones already patented that...

      Can we patent this type of reply on Slashdot so that we don't get the inevitable trite "that's been patented" responses? I mean heck... at try and be clever and original if you're going to pull out that crusty relic of a response.

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    3. Re:Shit! by Dachannien · · Score: 5, Informative

      FFS, someone should take a hatchet to the US PTO. Don't they need to reduce the budget or something?

      The USPTO is entirely fee-funded. Your tax dollars don't pay the examiners' salaries.

      On a side note, if you do know something about history and technology, and you'd like to put your money where your mouth is and improve the quality of patent examination, the USPTO is currently hiring qualified individuals with expertise in electrical, computer, and biomedical engineering. US citizenship required. In addition to standard federal benefits and a salary that can reach $100k in about three years, the USPTO has the federal government's flagship telework program, which allows you to work from home, anywhere in the country, once you meet certain qualifications.

      See http://usptocareers.gov/ for more info.

    4. Re:Shit! by soundguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The fact that in the year 2010, the videos on the USPTO website require RealPlayer pretty much explains the mentality at the patent office.

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  2. O'RLY by cosm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't really understand how this is patentable. It is essentially a patent covering 'charging for computer time' or 'charging for computer resources'? The credibility of patents is eroded day by day, diluted into pure paperwork used for litigation fodder.

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    1. Re:O'RLY by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The credibility of patents is eroded day by day, diluted into pure paperwork used for litigation fodder.

      That is a design feature, a direct consequence of a society run by lawyers for the benefit of lawyers and as an afterthought also sometimes their most wealthy clients.

  3. Re:Brainless by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...or the people who comment on patents without studying them to determine what is actually claimed and the scope of those claims?

  4. Misleading summary by Mr+44 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The patent is actually for utilizing a predictive process to change pricing based upon expected future load. Still not necessarily new, but very different than the summary implies.

  5. Worthless Patent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's look at a claim:

    1. A computer-implemented method, comprising: provisioning for an enterprise an enterprise-side web services computing resource to accommodate a given level of the enterprise's anticipated utilization; an enterprise-side computer system of the enterprise dynamically predicting the enterprise's own utilization of the enterprise-side web services computing resource that is expected to occur during a given interval of time; dependent upon said dynamically predicted utilization, said enterprise-side computer system setting a price to be charged for utilization of said web services computing resource by an entity other than the enterprise occurring during said given interval of time; and said enterprise-side computer system electronically providing said price to a client-side computer system for presentation to a customer associated with the client-side computer system as the price said customer will be charged for utilization of said web services computing resource during said given interval of time, wherein the client-side computer system is external to the enterprise.

    WTF? That's not an innovative solution to a problem. That's not even a solution to a problem - that's a description of the problem itself. They just patented anything that is a solution to the problem.

    This patent doesn't help other people implement any technology. The whole patent doesn't even contain any source code. If this document were released to the public, and had never been submitted as a patent, the world would be no better off than if it had never been written. Nobody would even care that it existed.

    This isn't an invention. This is worthless junk.

  6. Re:Brainless by nacturation · · Score: 5, Informative

    So who is more brainless?

    You're brainless for not reading the patent claims, and theodp is brainless for his nonstop anti-Amazon patent tirade (372 results)

    Here are the relevant parts from all of the links in the summary:

    Wikipedia time-sharing article: "Users were charged rent for the terminal, a charge for hours of connect time, a charge for seconds of CPU time, and a charge for kilobyte-months of disk storage." Yeah, ok... that's metered service, just like your power bill or long distance charges.

    Plato history article: Uh, this mentions getting a 50th anniversary Plato-style Google logo on Google. Nothing relevant on this link.

    The actual patent abstract: "A method and system for dynamic pricing of web services utilization. According to one embodiment, a method may include dynamically predicting utilization of a web services computing resource that is expected to occur during a given interval of time, and dependent upon the dynamically predicted utilization, setting a price associated with utilization of the web services computing resource occurring during the given interval of time. The method may further include providing the price to a customer. "

    Does charging for CPU time and resources involve dynamic prediction? No? I didn't think so. Lousy try, theodp. Better luck next time.

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  7. Re:Brainless by nacturation · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As if this doesn't happen every day in all industries. This is *obvious.* This belongs in a fucking contract, not a goddamn patent.

    Maybe so, but claiming that it's "60's-Era Chargebacks" is a complete misrepresentation based on the so-called "articles" linked to in the summary.

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  8. Did anyone actually read the paten by xianthax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Did anyone actually read the patent?

    The summary author is an idiot and clearly doesn't understand the patent or simply didn't read it.

    They didn't patent measuring and charging for computer resources.

    They patented predicting resource utilization at a particular point in the future and varying charging at that time.

    They basically patented the ability to charge users hosting services with them based on response time and performance, they implemented this capability by predicting loads at a point in the future.

    Sounds like they don't want to charge by the RAM/disk usage/CPU time etc anymore but would rather charge based on guaranteed performance.

    Also this isn't a software patent at all. They effectively patented a business model.

    If you want to argue the merits of that, fine, lets at least stick to the real issue.

  9. "Sound Familiar" by Theaetetus · · Score: 4, Funny

    From the patent: 'Utilization of a storage resource may be measured in terms of a quantity of data stored (e.g., bytes, megabytes (MB), gigabytes (GB), etc.) per unit of time (e.g., second, day, month, etc.). Similarly, communication bandwidth utilization may be measured in terms of a quantity of data transmitted per unit of time (e.g., megabits per second). Processing resource utilization may be measured as an aggregate number of units of processing effort (e.g., central processing unit (CPU) cycles, transactions, etc.) utilized, or as a rate of processing effort utilization per unit of time (e.g., CPU cycles or transactions per second).' Sound familiar, Greyglers?

    It should, since it's part of a description about the art generally. I mean, if you're going to quote mine in a biased effort to show that the patent is invalid, why not go for this:

    For example, in some embodiments computing resource 100 may include tangible resources such as computer systems (e.g., standalone or rack-mounted systems), storage devices (e.g., magnetic/optical disk storage, tape storage, etc.), wired or wireless network communication devices (e.g., Local Area Network (LAN)/Wide Area Network (WAN) devices and/or media), input/output devices, or other types of computing devices.

    Oh, no, they just patented every computer system, storage device, and network!

    I mean, heck... if you're spreading FUD, why not go all the way?