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Science Historian Deciphers Plato's Code
Reader eldavojohn tips the news of a researcher in the UK, Jay Kennedy, who has uncovered a hidden code in the writings of Plato. From the University of Manchester press release: "[Dr. Kennedy said] 'I have shown rigorously that the books do contain codes and symbols and that unraveling them reveals the hidden philosophy of Plato. This is a true discovery, not simply reinterpretation.' ... The hidden codes show that Plato anticipated the Scientific Revolution 2,000 years before Isaac Newton, discovering its most important idea — the book of nature is written in the language of mathematics. ... Plato did not design his secret patterns purely for pleasure — it was for his own safety. Plato's ideas were a dangerous threat to Greek religion. He said that mathematical laws and not the gods controlled the universe. Plato's own teacher [Socrates] had been executed for heresy. Secrecy was normal in ancient times, especially for esoteric and religious knowledge, but for Plato it was a matter of life and death." Here is the paper (PDF), which was published in the journal Apeiron: A Journal of Ancient Philosophy and Science.
Fortelling assassinations! (This originally being a refutal of Drosnin's "Bible Code" nonsense)
Seriously, in any given cirumstance I'd be extremely skeptical of this stuff. But in this case we don't really know whether all of "Plato's" writings were actually written by Plato, and certainly not if they're verbatim. Given that ancient Greek had five grammatical cases, it didn't have very strict word order (much like Latin). So it's even less of a coincidence if someone manages to string the words together into comprehensible sentences.
I doubt this will be the revolution Dr Kennedy thinks it will be. It'd be interesting to hear what others have to say. But of course, this is a press release, not a real article.
I'm not sure that's a fair distinction. He was executed for teaching the youth things that were disruptive to conventional beliefs. That's heresy.
It's extreme and also obtuse, and I'm reluctant to say that about someone like Nietzche. One man cannot possibly retard intellectual advancement for a thousand years except that legions of other men play follow-the-leader and imitate him like little robots instead of finding their own way. So let's say for argument's sake that Plato's contributions were entirely negative and unworthy (something I do not believe); Plato could only harm himself with that if people had any real self-hood. If they do not, this is not Plato's doing.
It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Einstein
Just be happy the story is actually interesting news, and not just propaganda and/or flamebaiting...
For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
What, you don't think George W. Bush is a reptilian?
As for Erich von Daniken, his theories are far more sound than the things that the majority of humanity believes. After all, he believes that alien astronauts came in ancient times and influenced human development, and that this explains religious writings, such as the Wheel of Ezekiel.
Compare this to a majority of Earth's population, who believe that various religious writings are actually real, and the work of an omnipotent, omniscient "god" (or gods), and that these gods have actually visited humans and still talk to them.
Which one is the "kook"? It seems pretty obvious to me that Erich's ideas, while fairly silly-sounding, are less fantastical than the things that most living humans believe.
If you don't buy Erich's ideas, what's your explanation for the Wheel of Ezekiel? The way I see it, there's three or four possibilities:
1) (which just about all Christians believe, comprising at least 1 billion people) that Ezekiel really was visited by God.
2) that Ezekiel was visited by an alien spacecraft.
3) that Ezekiel was piss-drunk, or on some drug and hallucinating
4) that Ezekiel was a shyster of some kind and was lying
Obviously, #3 and #4 are the most plausible, and would fit Occam's Razor the best. However, if you have to choose between #1 and #2, which one is more plausible? #2, easily. Spacecraft are unlikely, but not impossible, and much more likely and allowable by the laws of physics than #1. However, at least a billion people (including most of the USA) believe #1. So if you think von Daniken is a nutcase, what does that say about most Americans, just about all Latin Americans, many Europeans, most Jews, etc.?
Have you actually read Chariots of the Gods? A lot of what Von Daniken was claiming isn't even physically possible (ie. his UFO's parting the Red Sea crapola). Von Daniken was writing trash, and the chief difference between that and the Bible is that most of those selling Bible stories are at least sincere, whereas Von Daniken was one of the first major figures to take advantage of the credulity of the New Agers to sell them outrageous pap. I know that's a fairly subjective comparison, but really both sets of claims are pretty absurd. Von Daniken was about as interested in the laws of physics as the writers of the Pentateuch.
In some ways Von Daniken was even worse. He just went around looking at pictures of Mesoamerican, Egyptian and Babylonian art and writing and just invented his own narrative that had virtually nothing at all to do with the cultural art and motifs he was ripping off. He was like a lot of New Age types, who just crib together their own half-assed belief systems out of the spare parts of real cultures and civilizations, with little interest in the actual myths and rituals themselves. One can be reasonably sure that the Hebrews, Sumerians, Inca, Maya, Egyptians and so forth actually believed their fanciful stories about the world and their own origins, even if the accounts at times truly defy our knowledge of science and history. At least there is sincerity, but Von Daniken was cynically profiting from the gullible, and had about as much interest in science and history as a con-man running a pyramid scheme has in helping the people he fools turn a profit.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.