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Feds and Hollywood Seize Domains of Movie Pirates

adeelarshad82 writes "The federal government and Hollywood teamed up to seize domain names of seven sites that allegedly trafficked in copyrighted movies without due payment. The so-called 'Operation in Our Sites' sting targeted TVShack.net, Movies-links.tv, Filespump.com, Now-movies.com, PlanetMoviez.com, PirateCity.org, zml.com, NinjaVideo.net, and NinjaThis.net. The operation was run by the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the US attorney for the Southern District of New York, in conjunction with several Hollywood studios. Unlike past anti-piracy efforts, the sites did not actually offer the movies for download, but instead streamed the movies and TV shows against ads. Previously, movie crackdowns had concentrated on sites that distributed movie files, most recently using the BitTorrent protocol."

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  1. You Americans don't need to fear "terrorists". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's the corporations that are most harmful to your freedom.

    1. Re:You Americans don't need to fear "terrorists". by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I saw this yesterday evening and submitted it, but my emphasis was on something that really pissed me off. The Department of Homeland Security was in one it! Pirates are terrorists now, it seems.

      I fear for my country; the corpofacists are ruining it for the actual human beings that live here, and with corporations allowed to donate to both major party candidates, I see no way this will ever change. The government "of the people, by the people, and for the people" has perished from the earth. We now have a government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations; voters be damned.

    2. Re:You Americans don't need to fear "terrorists". by JWW · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You know, I can't shake this suspicion that I have the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) people might possibly have something better they could be doing with their time than taking over websites.

      It is interesting to note that when corporations don't want a federal agency to enforce the laws then that's what happens.

      And when corporations do want a federal agency to actually enforce law's then they get their way there too.

      You're absolutely correct, in modern America the rights of the corporation, the banks, the unions are upheld and the rights of the individual are too much to pay attention to.

    3. Re:You Americans don't need to fear "terrorists". by mike1210 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The key word here is 'Feds'. No corporation on Earth has a monopoly of violence that governments do.

  2. Great priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Glad to see that ICE is focusing on really important stuff like stopping movie downloads, rather than the really trivial matters like deporting the 12 million+ illegal aliens.

  3. Re:Great Win for HollyWood and the Feds by thijsh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Shit, they took down a pirate and *two* ninja's man! Think about the unholy alliance of ninja pirates who will take their revenge and seize what is erRRRrrrrrrightfully theirs. :)

  4. Come again? by Meriahven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A venal government of a single country hijacked multiple domains with ease? Surely this should not be possible.

  5. You Americans *do* need to fear terrorists. by thijsh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Corporation and Terrorism are not mutually exclusive. The effect of terrorism is that by harming a few people you hurt the majority by creating fear and thus terrorizing them, reducing their quality of life and freedoms. This also does not require blowing yourself up (hence the reason the term 'terrified' does not mean 'blown to bits'). If people stick to this proper definition (instead of modern sensationalism) it becomes very clear this applies to the media corporations tactics. They sue a few (actually thousands, more than have been blown up by Al Qaida) to terrorize others, and nobody knows if they will be sued (the little fact of downloading is not even relevant, anyone got sued by them).

    So you Americans *do* need to fear terrorists (and thus some corporations), it's just that your idea of what terrorism means is all FOXed up.

    1. Re:You Americans *do* need to fear terrorists. by Pojut · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In our defense, we are, for the most part, reactionary lower-level mammals.

      I kid, I kid. But seriously...fellow Americans, stop being so terrified of anyone that looks lightly tanned, stop believing everything the government tells you, and for all that you think is holy, stop watching mainstream news. Remember: just because you agree with it doesn't make it unbiased.

    2. Re:You Americans *do* need to fear terrorists. by thijsh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It really pisses me off, and I can't see anything I can do about it.

      Others say that, and then become 'terrorists'... The phrase is used so loosely it is used often instead of: revolutionary, guerrilla's, resistance fighter, or plain old heroes. It depends completely on perspective... the Germans called the Dutch who blew up their trains and transports 'terrorists', but we now call them heroes. And the patriots who fought in the civil war would also have been called terrorists, and they would have gone down in history as such if they would have lost...

      The point is you *can* do something about it, just speak out loud (and keep last resorts for times so dark you can't see any light from a spark of hope around you). But you have to become immune to the people who completely miss the point and try to label critical people as 'unpatriotic'... When you criticize your countries wrongdoings you are the greatest patriot there is, because you love your country so much you will fight against all odds to improve or preserve it's values.

    3. Re:You Americans *do* need to fear terrorists. by orasio · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How is seizing a domain not violence?
      It's government backed, legal violence, but it is.
      And there are threats of jailing people also. Jailing someone is physical violence.

    4. Re:You Americans *do* need to fear terrorists. by nedlohs · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Sure and then you make the term completely meaningless.

      Mrs Brown is a terrorist, she threatened to confiscate my pocket knife if I kept carving my name in the desk.

      Office Smith is a terrorist, he threatened to put me in jail if I threw a brick through the bank's plate glass window.

      My mother is a terrorist she threatened smacked me scratched pictures into her car with the keys.

      Ticket Inspector Jones is a terrorist he seized some of my money (via a fine) when I was riding the train without a ticket.

      But go ahead, no one will understand what you are talking about but that doesn't matter.

    5. Re:You Americans *do* need to fear terrorists. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Stopped watching mainstream news after Obama was elected. Haven't seen CNN or anything like it sense.

      Best thing I've ever done. I also don't understand why Obama is being blamed for everything... Probably because I'm not watching the news.

      I mean, people are complaining on my wife's facebook page that Obama is at fault for their kids not being able to get in on a desired appointment date and the appointment was instead made a day later.

      WTF? Someone was driving with a bumber sticker that said, "don't blame me, I voted republican".

      WTF does that even mean? Blame for what?

      There's something seriously wrong with these people.

    6. Re:You Americans *do* need to fear terrorists. by schwit1 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Run for office.

      I'd lose.

      It's funny how being honest with the voters and deep pocket campaign contributors has that effect.

    7. Re:You Americans *do* need to fear terrorists. by Kjella · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You are confusing being a terrorist and being called a terrorist. Terrorism has a very strict definition. Your "freedom fighter" and "treasonous rebels" analogy is completely not comparable as the two terms have nothing to do with terrorism. What's so hard to understand about a word that is completely defined and without ambiguity?

      Please enlighten us, as the definition of terrorism has its own wikipedia page with over 70 citations that we've never been able to agree on a concrete definition of what is a terrorist act. The UN has a political definition that is more fuzzy than a kitten, and comprehensive studies show there's very little common ground except violence or threats of violence.

      For example, to pick apart the UN definition: "Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes are in any circumstance unjustifiable, whatever the considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or any other nature that may be invoked to justify them."

      War is usually enough to send people in a state of terror, and armed resistance is no exception - particularly not fighting in or around the the civil population. Laws and so criminals acts are very often defined by an oppressor or occupant, so what makes them legitimate? Particularly if you read "state of terror in (...) a group of persons" where the group of persons is the occupant - which again is very much in the eye of the beholder, then it becomes nonsense. Not to Godwin this post, but during WWII Norway was occupied by the Nazis and we capitulated. The Nazis installed a puppet government, which passed laws. With a sufficiently biased reading you can find that "Criminal acts (as defined by the puppet government) intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in a group of persons (the German occupation) for political purposes (to free Norway) are in any circumstance unjustifiable". Or if you insist they were, then I support some of the terrorists...

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  6. Re:Is crime really so low.. by AHuxley · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Exactly and its the index sites, sites that create lists, not the hosts.
    Using the 'internet' to link is now a crime, not hosting the file or selling physical media?

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  7. Re:Overseas? by Krahar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't think they had any movies or 19" servers on them

    You should have checked their pants.

  8. Huh? by X.25 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, it's easier to get US government to shut down some domains pirating movies, than to shutdown domains used by phishers, scammers and all the other types that are actually hurting 'ordinary' people (no matter how dumb those people are)?

    I see.

    1. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Pirating directly hurts *publishers*. They are *specific* entities with financial interests so they go after *pirates*, *ninja's* etc. Phishers and scammers however, go after YOU. The large corporations are not affected by idiots that send their lifesavings to a clever fucker(s) in Nigeria—and neither is your government. Besides, the government doesn't work for you (contrary to what you may think).

      Americans lost control of their government years ago. It's now operated by corporations that will always work against the wishes of the public. So if you're felling shafted it's because you are.

  9. Warrants against domains ? by Kylock · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Quoted from http://www.ice.gov/pi/nr/1006/100630losangeles.htm

    In the first action carried out as part of the initiative, authorities executed seizure warrants against nine domain names of Web sites that were offering first-run movies

    A seizure warrant against a domain includes what exactly ? The host, the registrar, the technical contact's residence ?

    I understand warrants for physical locations, but this seems a bit wrong. Maybe its just a poor choice of wording by the original author....

  10. Re:The US economy is saved! by yamfry · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It most certainly did. The key word is "reportedly". Incidentally, I reportedly have a massive sex organ and 2 Ferraris.

  11. Re:That figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh, give it a rest. You think Obama carried Indiana because Hollywood told us to vote for him?

  12. This must mean a few things... by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If ICE, the FBI and a bunch of other alphabet soup agencies are doing this, whether it is within their jurisdiction OR NOT, it has to mean a few things in order to make sense:

    1. Nobody is killing anyone in the US. Murder is a thing of the past.
    2. Illegal immigration is a thing of the past.
    3. Pedophiles are all behind bars where they belong.
    4. Terrorists are all where they belong: the afterlife.
    5. What drugs on the streets?

    Agree with it or not, the whole idea of a government takeover of a website at the flip of a switch just gives me the heebie jeebies.

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  13. Re:Great Win for HollyWood and the Feds by camperdave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They won't stop until all your bits are the right color.

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  14. Sounds familiar... by GatorMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Similar to the War on Drugs, the small fish and the users get pinched while the root of the issue goes ignored.

  15. Re:Wow, Feds loose by Jaysyn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's like arresting me for telling you to go to the crack house down the street if you want to buy crack. Maybe it's not cool to give you that information but I don't think it's illegal. Really? It's illegal to let people know where they can find video streams?

    Which would be "Conspiracy to sell a controlled substance" & could end up giving you 5+ years in a state prison. Welcome to the police state, have a nice stay.

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  16. Hmm... by mea37 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When I hear a subset of the /. crowd claim that individuals should be allowed to "share" music files for free without fear of copyright lawsuits, I respectfully disagree (in general), but at least I get where they're coming from.

    But I see a lot of people here wanting to defend sites that provide a means for anyone to watch movies on demand, taking a profit and not passing any compensation on to the rights-holders... which I guess makes sense if you think there shouldn't be copyright at all, but in that case my disagreement with your position is perhaps a bit less respectful.

    Particularly intersting since any site that isn't engaged in copyright infringement gets screamed at if they dare make you look at an ad.

    Seems to me taking the position against the rights-holders has become a knee-jerk reaction.