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Feds and Hollywood Seize Domains of Movie Pirates

adeelarshad82 writes "The federal government and Hollywood teamed up to seize domain names of seven sites that allegedly trafficked in copyrighted movies without due payment. The so-called 'Operation in Our Sites' sting targeted TVShack.net, Movies-links.tv, Filespump.com, Now-movies.com, PlanetMoviez.com, PirateCity.org, zml.com, NinjaVideo.net, and NinjaThis.net. The operation was run by the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the US attorney for the Southern District of New York, in conjunction with several Hollywood studios. Unlike past anti-piracy efforts, the sites did not actually offer the movies for download, but instead streamed the movies and TV shows against ads. Previously, movie crackdowns had concentrated on sites that distributed movie files, most recently using the BitTorrent protocol."

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  1. You Americans don't need to fear "terrorists". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's the corporations that are most harmful to your freedom.

    1. Re:You Americans don't need to fear "terrorists". by captainpanic · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's the corporations that are most harmful to your freedom.

      If you want to learn something about corporations, and why you should fear them, then watch "The Corporation". It's a movie-documentary... and at least when I last watched it, it said it was a free download... so the fact that the 7 websites were taken down at least shouldn't affect your education :-)

      Since the late 18th century American legal decision that the business corporation organizational model is legally a person, it has become a dominant economic, political and social force around the globe. This film takes an in-depth psychological examination of the organization model through various case studies. What the study illustrates is that in the its behaviour, this type of "person" typically acts like a dangerously destructive psychopath without conscience.

      source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379225/plotsummary

  2. Method Comparison by Zephiris · · Score: 3, Informative

    BitTorrent sites do not have the movie files on them. Users share them at their own expense and risk. They use blockable advertising to offset hosting costs.

    Streaming sites obviously do have the files on them, and by using ads embedded into the stream, they were presumably attempting to directly make a notable profit off of the movies and TV shows.

    So why were BT sites traditionally the main target instead of profiteering streaming sites? Nevermind how numerous and over-the-top most of the streaming sites seem.

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    "A Goddess rarely smiles for she is forced by others to be an island unto herself." - Zephiris
    1. Re:Method Comparison by Random2 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Streaming sites obviously do have the files on them

      No, they do not. They embed the video from another site that does contain the file. Hence why every streamer hates the megavideo limits, because it applies no matter what streaming site you visit.

      If you want to kill streaming, go after the base that supports them.

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      "Our goal each year should be to increase the number of goals we set for ourselves!"
    2. Re:Method Comparison by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you want to kill streaming, go after the base that supports them.

      You want to prosecute screenwriters???

      Man, you're hardcore.

  3. Come again? by Meriahven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A venal government of a single country hijacked multiple domains with ease? Surely this should not be possible.

    1. Re:Come again? by Kylock · · Score: 4, Informative

      It was unclear whether or not the federal agencies actually seized and confiscated the servers hosting and streaming the pirated content, although the ICE said that it had worked with officials in the Netherlands to execute search warrants for some of the domain names and content.

      This article is completely silly. It sensationalism based upon speculation. Do real journalists exist anymore ?

  4. You Americans *do* need to fear terrorists. by thijsh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Corporation and Terrorism are not mutually exclusive. The effect of terrorism is that by harming a few people you hurt the majority by creating fear and thus terrorizing them, reducing their quality of life and freedoms. This also does not require blowing yourself up (hence the reason the term 'terrified' does not mean 'blown to bits'). If people stick to this proper definition (instead of modern sensationalism) it becomes very clear this applies to the media corporations tactics. They sue a few (actually thousands, more than have been blown up by Al Qaida) to terrorize others, and nobody knows if they will be sued (the little fact of downloading is not even relevant, anyone got sued by them).

    So you Americans *do* need to fear terrorists (and thus some corporations), it's just that your idea of what terrorism means is all FOXed up.

    1. Re:You Americans *do* need to fear terrorists. by Pojut · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In our defense, we are, for the most part, reactionary lower-level mammals.

      I kid, I kid. But seriously...fellow Americans, stop being so terrified of anyone that looks lightly tanned, stop believing everything the government tells you, and for all that you think is holy, stop watching mainstream news. Remember: just because you agree with it doesn't make it unbiased.

    2. Re:You Americans *do* need to fear terrorists. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Remember: just because you agree with it doesn't make it unbiased.

      Agreed.

    3. Re:You Americans *do* need to fear terrorists. by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I find it disturbing that yesterday I saw this in an AP story at Yahoo News, where they said "Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials worked with the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, the FBI, and the Department of Homeland Security".

      I went to link it in this comment today, and it's been edited; it now reads "Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials worked with the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York and other government agencies."

      I agree with you; DHS is on the wrong side here, and the entire government as well, in all liklihood. Obviously the corporate press says whatever the government wants them to say, and the corporations are the ones who pay for elections, so they effectively own our government.

      It really pisses me off, and I can't see anything I can do about it.

    4. Re:You Americans *do* need to fear terrorists. by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Write a letter to the editor.

      I do, frequently. Oddly, the corporate State Jorrnal-Register has never printed a single one, while the independant (and free as in beer) Illinois Times almost always prints them. Writing a letter to the editor does no more good than writing your corporate-owned congressman if it isn't printed.

      Run for office.

      I'd lose.

  5. The US economy is saved! by niftydude · · Score: 5, Informative

    The piracy "reportedly resulted in billions of dollars in losses to the U.S. economy," Preet Bharara, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, said in a statement.

    No. It didn't.

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    1. Re:The US economy is saved! by tomknight · · Score: 4, Funny

      Whereas I reportedly have a massive Ferrari and two sex organs. I'm available for weddings, church fetes, funerals and bar mitzvahs.

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      Oh arse
  6. Re:Great Win for HollyWood and the Feds by jaggeh · · Score: 5, Informative

    90% of tvshacks content was hosted on megavideo, its still there, just go to another link site.

    no news here as there was no accomplishment from the feds.

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  7. An interesting difference by Tetrarchy · · Score: 3, Informative

    The thing about ninjavideo that I always found interesting (and what i had thought would keep them online), was that the site did not actually host the files it was streaming, but only provided links which used some sort of weird java popup that you had to keep running in the background which acted as some sort of intermediary to actually start the stream from files with obfuscated addresses hosted on 3rd party hosting sites (think megaupload).

    I guess it all comes back to the question of if whether having a link to somewhere else that hosts copyrighted material is itself infringement, and unless the ninja admins manage to beat the MPAA lawyers, it would seem we have our answer to that.

    The real shame is that the site was super useful for finding archived tv shows (especially documentaries from nat geo and the bbc and the like), but i suspect linking to the big name movies is what got them shut down. Such a waste - I don't even understand why people would want to watch the cams in the first place.

  8. Huh? by X.25 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, it's easier to get US government to shut down some domains pirating movies, than to shutdown domains used by phishers, scammers and all the other types that are actually hurting 'ordinary' people (no matter how dumb those people are)?

    I see.

  9. Wow, Feds loose by anupokritos · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One, Movies-links.tv doesn't stream video, nor does it embed any movies in their site. What they do is provide links to where you can stream videos around the web and give the users the ability to report if the stream is working or not so that finding streaming video is easier. They confiscate the domain for that? That's like arresting me for telling you to go to the crack house down the street if you want to buy crack. Maybe it's not cool to give you that information but I don't think it's illegal. Really? It's illegal to let people know where they can find video streams? Anyhow immediately after the Feds seized the domain a replacement one was created: http://www.watch-movies-tv.info/ and you know how I know this? Because when I googled Movies-links.tv it was the second link that popped up. So wait a second? Why is it okay for google to tell me where I can find Movies-links.tv but not okay for Movies-links.tv to tell me where I can find video streams? Whatever. Who knows how long it took for this "operation" to get approval, pass the paperwork around, select a operational task force, come up with an action committee, decided on a communication strategy and plan the concerted effort.... I'm pretty sure it only took the people at Movies-links.tv about 5 minutes to register a new domain though. Nice work Fed's.

    1. Re:Wow, Feds loose by anupokritos · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wow, and you think these foreign companies should care about what's legal in your state? Why should they? The internet isn't American. These companies have every right to operate legally based on the laws of the country they live in.

      Why didn't they just confiscate the servers that have the data? Why didn't they arrest the people commiting these crimes? They had to have known how easy it is to put up another domain. They didn't because they can't. They know they don't have a legal basis to prosecute them based on the laws of the country they reside in. So they strongarm the Registrars who don't have the same protections under the law.

      But it's pointless. It takes less time to get a new domain than it does to talk about how you cleverly confiscated the old on. But what really bothers me is that they waste tax payer's money on trying to prevent something that is entirely unpreventable.

      If every video sharing site on the planet was shut down today, next week there would be ten more to replace them and the week after that a hundred more. And there is nothing anyone can do. It's a waste of money, and money that can be better spent helping people that really need it.

       

  10. Re:Great Win for HollyWood and the Feds by camperdave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They won't stop until all your bits are the right color.

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    When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
  11. Re:Immigration needs to do round ups and not movie by hercubus · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The government, hence immigration, does what corporate interests want, which is not roundups.

    If you're a Hollywood exec, illegals mow the lawn, clean the house, clean the pool, service the wife - all good things. Those illegals are not going home, brother, not going home.

    Meat processing plants use immigration as part of the HR process. They feed names of activists, malcontents, injured workers to the immigration office and then the roundups begin. Immigration gets to pretend publicly that they're doing something and the meat plants maintain a well-behaved slave-labor force.

    And because slave labor helps keep prices low, you can afford meat sometimes on your Wal-Mart salary.

    Everybody wins!

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    -- How I want a drink, alcoholic of course, after the heavy lectures involving quantum mechanics.
  12. Hmm... by mea37 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When I hear a subset of the /. crowd claim that individuals should be allowed to "share" music files for free without fear of copyright lawsuits, I respectfully disagree (in general), but at least I get where they're coming from.

    But I see a lot of people here wanting to defend sites that provide a means for anyone to watch movies on demand, taking a profit and not passing any compensation on to the rights-holders... which I guess makes sense if you think there shouldn't be copyright at all, but in that case my disagreement with your position is perhaps a bit less respectful.

    Particularly intersting since any site that isn't engaged in copyright infringement gets screamed at if they dare make you look at an ad.

    Seems to me taking the position against the rights-holders has become a knee-jerk reaction.