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Climategate's Final Days
The Bad Astronomer writes "Climategate may be on its way out. An investigatory committee at Pennsylvania State University has formally cleared climate scientist Dr. Michael Mann of any scientific misconduct. Mann was central in the so-called Climategate scandal, where illegally leaked emails were purported to indicate examples of scientists trying to cover up any lack of global warming in their data. This finding by the committee (PDF) is another in a series of independent investigations that have all concluded that no misconduct has occurred."
The earth has been both hotter and cooler than it is now.
So obviously if the earth is getting hotter, man must have incurred Earth's wraith and we shall be DOOMED TO ETERNAL FIRE AND STARVATION if we don't make amends IMMEDIATELY!
I'm all for taking better care of the planet, but the global warming nuts haven't really provided much evidence and they're the ones making the allegations.
The way I see things, if you make a bunch of claims, the burden of proof is ON YOU... not the people you're speaking to.
Mod me down, my New Earth Global Warmingist friends!
Science is not produced through consensus. We'd still be insisting on the Ptolemaic universe, if that were so.
Global warming support is like creationism, it has no repeatable experimental methodology, from the entire cycle of data collection, through model construction and testing of hypothesis.
"Peer review" does not mean "I respect his degree, and assume his methodology is correct, because he's constructed a well supported paper."
"Peer review" is also NOT "Take his data, and his model, and I get the same result".
"Peer review" is independent reproduction of results, and validating assumptions made. This INCLUDES independent gathering of original source data.
Supposed evidence for "Global Warming" is derived from pseudo-scientific, statistical manipulation of suspect and cherry-picked data, which in the end, serves a Malthusian social agenda and results in taxing the very air you breathe.
"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell
These are the same kind of people still insisting that Obama has not proven he is an American citizen
Rather backwards; the Warmists are people trying to alarm us with something unproven, just as the idiotic Birthers and Truthers do as well.
All of them are posting things they simply cannot prove but trying to claim they are so.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Come on now this story has been up how long and nobody has yet blamed this directly on Obama? Clearly the climategate - and global warming itself - is all part of his great planned socialist takeover of the entire solar system, right?
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
No kidding. ALL -- every last one -- of the "investigations" subsequent to the release of the Climategate data were whitewashes. This one is no different.
Dog is my co-pilot.
It's in the university's best interests to appear to support honest investigators
Ahh, but in this case it's by far in the best interest of the university to be able to keep the Global Warming money train arriving on time at the university station, since that is such a large lump sum of money to work with...
That is to say, you can't bring up monetary incentives as proof of accuracy without noting that there's a lot of money going both ways - which is true in the meta-sense of the global warming debate. There are literally trillions of dollars, not to mention the very notion of who controls industry, at stake in this discussion.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
ORLY? Why don't you post some links that prove your hypothesis, you fucktard.
ONE global warming doomsdayer posted a SINGLE link in this entire thread to support his theory.
Mod me down, my New Earth Global Warmingist friends!
Ah, I see. Probably fictional coworkers who don't understand anything are a significant issue here, it's true.
I wasn't responding to the article but to the poster postulating that being on the global warming fun bus is tantamount to religious zealotry, especially because I see it as the opposite.
However, a SINGLE person did indeed post a LINK (not plural) to back up their *belief* global warming is a serious, man made issue. So I'm checking that out presently.
Mod me down, my New Earth Global Warmingist friends!
>"I never understood why it's so hard to find other people who don't subscribe to one extreme or the other when it comes to climate change."
The issue is the blind faith in the computer models as science.
If you don't believe what you are told 100% then you are saying the computer models are wrong.
If the computer models are wrong then you are saying the science is wrong.
If you are saying the science is wrong then you are denying global warming.
If you are denying the global warming then you are an eco terrorist.
Other "sciences" present the output of computer models as theories. Climatologists present them as facts. Watch people like Mann desperately trying to free himself from the hockey stick to see why this approach is so flawed.
GLOBAL WARMING IS BULLSHIT! It's just a globalist agenda to get there cap and trade carbon tax to fund their global government. The "conspiracy theorist" marginalization attemps are sooo warn out. Google "global governence" and see for yourself. They openly admit it. Now that people know it's BS they want to change the tem to "climate change". News flash, CLIMATE IS ALWAYS CHANGING. THAT IS WHAT CLIMATE DOES. You people will believe ANYTHING the government tells you no matter how many times they lie to you. Al Gore said the seas will rise. Oh really? Then why did he just buy shore front property. Go get yourm swine flu shot you bunch of lemmings. F*&^%g sheeple.
... right, because it is common that ice ages end and reverse themselves in 50-100 years. Regullarly, it would take 5000-20,000 years for this change in temp. Instead it has happened in just a few decades.
Also, just because it doesn't mention one non-existent factor doesn't mean that it doesn't mention about 6 dozen others between that article and the several linked to it. What you did in that post was pretty much like this:
"Who said I was the only one to ever drive a car?, I have never heard anyone say that, except for you saying it!"
and then you say "Bullshit, see this link? IT SAYS PEOPLE RIDE BICYCLES"
There is no excuse for being so incredibly off. When you drive, are you always keeping the lines between your tires? Do you routinely try to take a crap on the toilet and end up in the sink? When you go to bed do you always have trouble figuring out how other people handle such a heavy mattress on top of them? Cause that is how you are acting. Ice ages are not a factor, they are a consequence. What you failed to do, was to relate it to an actual reason. I really wish everyone who failed, failed as epically as you. Life would be so much more interesting.
Where is the mod rating for "scary"? Also,
So a bunch of professors got together and cleared ... one of their own. No surprise there. You can read the first 2 paragraphs under the "Background of the alleged misconduct" and you can tell right away what the conclusion is going to be by the way it's written.
This is no different than the Investigation of Chris Dodd's Mortgage deal.. A so-called "inquiry" by members of his own party concluded that receiving "VIP" mortgage deals did not constitute preferential treatment.
A whitewash is a whitewash is a whitewash.
"Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
--- Jerry Garcia
And by your logic, the fame one would gain by proving George Bush was a criminal would be the holy grail of liberalism... So why hasnt it happened?
Here is a list of some of the research papers that somehow never made it into the IPCC inner circle of journals.
Here are some scientist associated with the fields of climatology and atmospherics who dissent.
Here's a report on the US Senate Commitee on Environmental and Public Works about 100 scientists (many formerly of the IPCC) who are skeptics and who sent letters to the UN declaring so
Here's a Senate report on scientists who were proponents, but are since turned skeptics of global warming:
If none of that is bad enough, lets talk about the intimidation?
Here is a link, again on the US Senate Committe on Environment and Public works talking about the NASA scientist calling for charges of Treason against for skeptics.
Here's another Senate report on the Intimidation that skeptics face for "climate blasphemy":
Here's a Washington Post article about a skeptic fired from his post as Virginia State Climatologist becuase he used it as a "platform as state climatologist to promote his views on global warming, including that the issue was overemphasized" after clashing with the Governer
Another case of intimidation
Here's an aricle about a man whose career in television as a science journalist ended because of his beliefs about global warming
Here's a Senate report about a climatologist calling for the scientific certifications of skeptics to be revoked:
So yeah... There's no evidence of intimidation or ignoring the legitimate dissent....
"But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,..." - Nancy Pelosi