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IE9 Flaunts Hardware-Accelerated Canvas

An anonymous reader writes "Over on the IE blog they have a rundown of IE9's hardware accelerated support for the canvas element. They write, 'With the recent release of the latest IE9 platform preview, we talked about how we're rebuilding the browser to use the power of your whole PC to browse the web, and to unlock a new class of HTML5 applications. One area that developers are especially excited about is the potential of HTML5 canvas. Like all of the graphics in IE9, canvas is hardware accelerated through Windows and the GPU. In this blog post we discuss some of the details behind canvas and the kinds of things developers can build.'"

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  1. Zero to botched in 60 nanoseconds? by MikeFM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's fast but can it render the page correctly? It doesn't much matter how fast it is if it doesn't do it right. IE8 is still a big turd - have they actually fixed IE9 or is it all smoke and mirrors by posting speed results? The last results I saw proved that they could pass the tests they wanted to pass but that they failed horribly at real world results. I guess if it's good enough for the education system then it's good enough for web browsers eh?

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    1. Re:Zero to botched in 60 nanoseconds? by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Glad to see I'm not the only one thinking PC resources are there to be used not to just sit there. One of the things I like the most about Windows 7 is that unlike XP my RAM actually is being used for something useful, instead of sitting empty most of the time. I have about 500Mb of my 8Gb free, because thanks to Superfetch Windows knows which programs I use and when and has them waiting in RAM for me.

      I fell the same about the GPU, I have a GB of RAM and a fast stream processor sitting there and if I'm not gaming use the thing! But while I have been personally playing with IE9 and it is shaping up to have some cool features, I'm too hooked on FF to give it up. The guy at Mozilla that invented the extension framework needs to be given a company car and a big fat raise, because they couldn't have asked for a better lockin! Once you have a set of extensions you like giving it up is VERY hard. Even my dad who is about as clueless when it comes to PCs as they come is hooked. When he visits a relative that doesn't have FF he calls me to walk them through "giving them something that doesn't suck like that damned blue E" because he simply can't stand the web without ABP and Imagezoom.

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    2. Re:Zero to botched in 60 nanoseconds? by marcello_dl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In fact, no matter the average slashdotter bias, Microsoft has all the resources to make fully compliant products. Problem is, that is not a goal for them. Market domination is. That's why I prefer to base my stuff on free software, and that's why I prefer FF and Opera over chrome safari and IE. Putting Opera in the same league of Firefox, because Opera has not enough power to unilaterally extend standards, so compliance is a primary goal for them. Chrome in the same league of safari and IE because Chrome is part of a broader strategy like the other browsers are for apple and MS. I'm not calling any of them evil or good, I simply look for the best tool for the job and do it on the long term.

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  2. Re:I seem to have missed why we'd want this by mwvdlee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And this time they would do it not by breaking standards, but by implementing them really well.

    Those devious bastards, how dare they!

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  3. Re:A house built on sand cannot stand. by MikeFM · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just drop IE support. It's not worth the effort. At least I wouldn't bother with anything alter than the newest version. Unfortunately IE still makes up half the visitors to my none geek sites but non-IE8 has dropped down to under 10% and those users convert to less revenue than other users.. so I've gradually dropped support. Nothing new is being tested for old versions of IE. I'm seeing the dropoff from IE accelerating as a whole. Firefox is at about 25%, Chrome and Safari make up another 15%, and Opera and iPod/iPhone/iPad/Android devices most of the rest. The speed of Chrome and mobile device growth is most impressive. Seriously considering versions formatted to the screen sizes of popular mobile devices.

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  4. Re:I seem to have missed why we'd want this by VGPowerlord · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Side note:

    I installed the IE9 Preview just to see what they would run like in there... they run quite fast.

    Then again, MS provided demos aren't exactly the best way to test this.

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  5. Re:A house built on sand cannot stand. by silanea · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You do realise that Flash is hated not only, and not even most prominently, for being closed but for being a technical nightmare?

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  6. Re:A house built on sand cannot stand. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Because just like any piece of software if it isn't reported it isn't likely to be fixed. Open source has zero to do with trying to improve the quality of a product. You don't need to see the source to submit a bug report.

  7. Re:I seem to have missed why we'd want this by bmo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, it could pass every test suite on the planet, but that doesn't mean they can't *add* their own little bit of kit to "extend" it in an incompatible or even *patented* way. Look at what they did with kerberos, or like, *any other standard* they've dealt with. To Microsoft, "standards are for chumps."

    Saying "Microsoft is standards compliant THIS time" is just too much to swallow.

    Go ahead, softies, mod this one down too. I have more karma than you.

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  8. Good ideas never die, they just rebrand by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Direct2D? DirectWrite? 15 years ago, we were calling that DirectDraw, and accelerated rasterisation was the hottest thing since sliced time. I guess what goes around comes around, and these kids today will be laughing at the new kids in another 15 years when they discover the wonders of DirectFlatOGram. Also, their Goddamn DirectNoise is too loud on my DirectLawn.

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  9. Re:I seem to have missed why we'd want this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Eh? What rock have you been sitting under?
    CANVAS is a standard HTML5 element.
    Hardware acceleration is coming to, or already is in some browsers.

    Why would you NOT want this? Microsoft are actually competing for crying out loud, that is like a miracle if i ever saw one.
    The only stupid part about all of this is MS don't seem to be backporting IE9 to XP because "Direct2D" is apparently only possible because the pure AWE of Windows 7...
    At least, this was the last time i heard about it, they could well be doing it now since they want as many people away from IE6, which is plain not going to happen since they seem incapable of understanding exactly WHY people still use IE6!
    The only people who still have to suffer IE6 is businesses who Microsoft got stuck in the ActiveX trap, which they then killed...

    I love that they are adding HWA to it, especially considering how i will be building something around CANVAS pretty soon. IE9 isn't all that bad actually. I wouldn't even mind if they were using that browser anymore as it passes a fair amount of standards to the point where worrying over layout is a very small issue now.
    I still personally hate it, the UI is awful.

  10. Re:I seem to have missed why we'd want this by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, it could pass every test suite on the planet, but that doesn't mean they can't *add* their own little bit of kit to "extend" it in an incompatible or even *patented* way

    You mean, like every other browser out there does? Have you seen how many "-webkit-*" CSS properties are there?

  11. Re:A house built on sand cannot stand. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    for someone like you flash might be a nightmare but for the millions of actionscript developers out there it seems to be quite useful :)

    the reality is that for the end-user html5 means zilch. they'll continue using flash and won't even hear people like you as you whine from the sidelines.

  12. Re:what about the video tag? by cjjjer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Where have you been? The video tag debate is over seems flash won.

  13. Re:I seem to have missed why we'd want this by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, I mean stuff like this which people use today already to make iPhone/iPad-specific websites that break everywhere else.

    It's funny how history repeats... MS has considered "-webkit-text-size-adjust" so popular that IE in Windows Phone 7 will support it, despite it not being any kind of standard. Can you say "document.all" and "innerHTML"?