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World Cup Prediction Failures

pdcull writes "We all read on Slashdot about the investment banks using their massive computer power and clever modeling techniques to predict the FIFA World Cup outcome. Now that Goldman Sachs's, UBS's and Danske Bank's favorite, Brazil, has been eliminated, and with JP Morgan's England long gone, the question that begs to be asked is: can we really trust these guys to predict the financial markets any better than they did World Cup?"

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  1. Investiment bank? by Improv · · Score: 3, Funny

    What's an investiment bank?! I don't trust any large institution that can't spell worth beans.

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  2. Upgrade by therealobsideus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Guess it's time to upgrade their magic ball software. This time maybe they shouldn't outsource the project to Mattel.

  3. Say... by muckracer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is this a trick question??

  4. Re:Wait. by SpeedyDX · · Score: 5, Funny

    All-star baseball player struggles at figure skating - clearly shows all-star game votes don't reflect players' abilities!
    Grammy award winning singer can't perform simple clown juggling routine - they hand out Grammys to anyone these days!
    Nobel prize winning chemist's sculpture harshly criticized by art critics - all previous research papers under scrutiny!

  5. Of course not by oldhack · · Score: 2, Funny

    Games are decided by refereeing as much as anything. Did they throw that into the model?

    FIFA make UN look like a girlscout.

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  6. Re:Look at the numbers first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Goldman Sachs gave Brazil (the "favorite") only a 13% chance of winning the world cup.

    The fact that Brazil was eliminated is not at odds with the reports.

    Way to ruin my self-righteous rage with your little 'facts' It makes me feel better to lay other people low when times are tough. The people need a safe outlet for their anger, and some remote math geeks should have been fair game. Then you come along and tell me their predictions were soundly made..? So, now I must recollect all that anger and direct it at my wife and children. I am the victim here. Why aren't you defending me?

  7. Hmm by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Funny

    How good are they at climate prediction. I'm just wonderin'...

  8. Re:Don't call me shirley .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's easy. You just have to pay off the refs.

  9. Re:We have to! by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 5, Funny

    Too complicated. The best analogy is simply to say that GS, etc al are filled with shallow crooks who can and will trick and con everyone they meet out of every cent they have.

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  10. Re:I don't get it. by md65536 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can you put this in car terms?

    GS steals a car from Customer A, picks up Customer B and pays for sex, but then beats up B and takes the money back, sells a sex tape it made with B to A, then runs down A with their own car.

  11. Re:We have to! by iluvcapra · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am reliably informed that it is shrill and partisan to suggest that George W. Bush did anything wrong, or that any of the problems that the United States presently faces can be attributed to his or his party's consistent and passionately adopted decisions and policies. I am also informed that anyone who ever criticizes the consistent and passionately adopted policies and decisions of conservative politicians are merely criticizing George W. Bush, who was not in fact a conservative. Keep that in mind, smart guy.

    /s

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  12. Re:We have to! by mooingyak · · Score: 2, Funny

    Too complicated. The best analogy is simply to say that GS, etc al are filled with shallow crooks who can and will trick and con everyone they meet out of every cent they have.

    And for completeness, they're all driving in cars.

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  13. Re:Wait. by sammyF70 · · Score: 2, Funny
    I thought you meant that ironically until

    "They hand out Grammys to anyone these days!"

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  14. It's so easy, chaps by DollyTheSheep · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans always win."

    Gary Lineker

  15. Re:I don't get it. by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can you put this in car terms?

    Customer A comes to GS and says we have views on these pool of players, help us implement that view. Goldman tells Customer B they are interested in structuring a bet (that by necessity, must have another side) with the same pool. Customer B picks the players it likes, based on its own analysis and expertise. Customer A accepts the new list of players. Customer B is initially very happy, but soon the players, for which no entity involved has any influence, start performing poorly. Customer A loses. Customer B wins. Goldman, having retained some of Customer A's stake for itself, loses, but recoups a portion of the loss through fees earned by structuring the deal. All the Goldman execs then get new Ferraris.

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  16. Re:We have to! by Tom · · Score: 3, Funny

    Apparently, if you didn't need Tarp money, the government look at your bank as though you MUST have been doing something "wrong".

    Absolutely. You see, if you weren't "in" on this largest scam in history, then you are not part of the elite capitalist clan, and thus you are obviously a communist. A communist! Oh, wait, wrong century. A terrorist! You're with the terrorists!

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  17. Re:I don't get it. by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sure. Which is the odd one out - a Goldman Sachs banker, a computer salesman or a second hand car dealer?

    The computer salesman - he doesn't always know when he's lying.

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