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'Robofish' Schools the Rest

schliz writes "Biologists from the University of Leeds have built a computer-controlled replica of a three-spined stickleback fish to study how the behavior of individual fish might influence the movement of others. The so-called 'Robofish' was able to recruit single fish into a group, and cause fish in groups of up to ten to turn in the same direction as itself. The researchers claim that Robofish is the first robotic fish to 'interact convincingly' with a school of fish and convince the whole group to make a sharp turn."

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  1. I can use my fingers by FuckingNickName · · Score: 4, Informative

    I can move my fingers close to my fish to convince my fish to make a turn. Or my cat. Or my human.

    In other news, an interesting moving thing ahead of you might be worth following.

    1. Re:I can use my fingers by JustOK · · Score: 4, Funny

      try washing your hands first.

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    2. Re:I can use my fingers by FuckingNickName · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Fish don't like it when you anthropomorphise. Are "curiosity" and "pack behaviour" so distinguishable?

      Anyway, drive by a road accident and ask the same question of humans.

    3. Re:I can use my fingers by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wouldn't be hard to distinguish it in an experiment. Whereas fish might move towards what they are curious about (and soon get bored of it as well), fish would move with the pack. I.e. when you see something interesting you stop and have a look at it etc - that is curiosity, when you cross the street in a crowd you are subconsciously adjusting your path to match those around you - that is pack behaviour. (crowd behaviour is one of the few cases where humans engage in pack-like behaviour, otherwise we dont do much herding).

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  2. Traditional fishing by WarJolt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Traditional fishing would be obsolete. Just "recruit" the fish into the net.

    1. Re:Traditional fishing by TheKidWho · · Score: 3, Funny

      Gives a new meaning to crowd sourcing.

    2. Re:Traditional fishing by chichilalescu · · Score: 5, Interesting

      from the article:

      "Dubbed 'Robofish', the device is a plaster cast of a three-spined stickleback fish that is mounted on a rare-earth magnet.
      It is controlled by an electromagnet that is located beneath the tank and controlled, in turn, by TestPoint and Microsoft Excel software packages on a PC"

      I don't really understand why they call it a robot, since it's just a magnet being pulled and pushed from the exterior. Anyway, with this kind of setup, this can not be used in the open ocean.

      I'm actually disappointed, as after the japanese made robots that can dance, making a robotic fish doesn't seem that complicated.

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    3. Re:Traditional fishing by dominious · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Anyway, with this kind of setup, this can not be used in the open ocean.

      The point of this work was to study the behaviour of fish. Now that we know the behaviour, we can go on and build a better robot.

    4. Re:Traditional fishing by MRe_nl · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This really reminds me of the Jack Vance short story, "The Sub-Standard Sardines".

      Traditional fishing is almost obsolete, but for different reasons.

      Our oceans are not yet empty but the signs are not good. The seas have always been humanity's single largest source of protein, but for the first time in history this critical food supply is at risk in many areas. Despite an ever-intensifying fishing effort, the global catch appears to have reached its limit while the demand for seafood continues to grow.

      According to the FAO, 15 of the world's 17 major ocean fisheries are already depleted or over-exploited. These trends are even more troubling when population growth is considered. The world population - now at six billion - will continue to grow by over 60 million people per year, with nearly half this growth in areas within 100 kilometers of a coastline. Over one billion people in Asia already depend on ocean fish for their entire supply of protein, as does 1 out of every 5 Africans. Although North America and Europe rely less on ocean-caught protein, much of the seafood consumed on both continents is imported from developing countries. The entire world shares an interest in restoring and maintaining this critical food supply.
      Empty Oceans, Empty Nets

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    5. Re:Traditional fishing by mikael · · Score: 4, Funny

      You can do the same thing on the London underground - get off at any platform at a busy time and walk to the platform in the opposite direction. At least 10 or more tourists will follow you and each other, thinking you are heading to the street (the WAY OUT signs don't always point somewhere meaningful). After you stop, they figure you weren't going where they want to go, and start following someone else.

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    6. Re:Traditional fishing by Jurily · · Score: 2, Funny

      Surely you mean phishing.

  3. electromagnets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Have the researchers done a control test using only the electromagnet in order to rule out the magnet being the controlling factor here? I might be misguided in thinking a magnet could alter the direction of the fish.

    Could anyone confirm or deny this and tell me if the researchers did this control study?

    1. Re:electromagnets? by mikael · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Some fish such as North Sea salmon seemed to prefer to swim against the ocean current. This was proved with ocean tank experiments. It wouldn't matter which direction the water was coming from, the time of day, the position of the Moon, Sun or stars, the fish would swim in the direction the water was being recirculated. If one fish changes direction, that would cause vortices and turbulence which in turn would create pressure changes that other fish would be able to detect.

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  4. Obligatory by morrison · · Score: 3, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new sushi overlords.

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    1. Re:Obligatory by put_it_down · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why? Are they coming over? I forgot to grab wasabi.

  5. Re:Skynet's inspiration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Faith is trust without experience.

  6. Fish till we die! by Galik · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well its nice to know that when the oil companies finally poison every fish in every ocean... ... we will still be able to GO FISHING!!

  7. Re: damn dolphins by MRe_nl · · Score: 4, Funny

    So long and thanks for all the robot fish?

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  8. Big fish all gone ? by ilotgov · · Score: 3, Funny

    It is controlled by an electromagnet that is located beneath the tank and controlled, in turn, by TestPoint and Microsoft Excel software packages on a PC.
    Microsoft is going after small fish now.

  9. James Pond by Robotron23 · · Score: 2, Funny

    James Pond has prior art on this - and his first appearance showed him extremely cod at fixing undersea oil-leaking holes.

  10. A hormonal uncanny valley by Iamthecheese · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For fish? The fact that they lost interest after 30 minutes is interesting; it implies that something that takes as long as 30 minutes to get into their little fishy skulls told them that this wasn't the leader they sought. was it doing the follow me dance too many times? Was it not putting the "follow me" chemical into the water? What is the success rate of the robot fish versus a real fish in a study that covers several recruitment attempts by a real fish?

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    1. Re:A hormonal uncanny valley by noidentity · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The fact that they lost interest after 30 minutes is interesting; it implies that something that takes as long as 30 minutes to get into their little fishy skulls told them that this wasn't the leader they sought.

      This is not the leader you're looking for (waves fin)

  11. Great timing by Hatta · · Score: 2, Funny

    We can release these into the gulf of mexico. Robots love oil.

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  12. Re:Excel? by sentientbeing · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Firstly they had to Disable all mackerels without notification

    Macros. I meant macros.

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  13. Video by MMatessa · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a site with a video of Robofish in action.