Opera 10.60 Released, With Faster JS, WebM Video Support

teh31337one writes "Four short months after Opera 10.50, the latest version of Opera's lightweight web browser has been released. It not only claims to be the fastest browser, but also the first final browser with WebM video support. It's available for Windows, Mac and Linux." Update: 07/04 21:53 GMT by T : Headline updated to reflect that this is Opera 10.60, rather than 10.6. Thanks to the readers who spotted this goof.

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Re:Error in article: 10.60, not 10.6

[AliasMarlowe]

FYI, on my system the opera:about page shows it as version "10.60 internal", but its browser identification is:
"Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.6.30 Version/10.60"
which could be construed as meaning either version 9.80 or version 10.60.

Re:If Opera implemented other things right,I'd use

[99BottlesOfBeerInMyF]

Plus it also has Inspect Element (like Chrome), mouse gestures (like the Firefox addons), and it looks good in Mac OS X and Windows (although not so much in Linux).

I really like Opera on Windows, but I find it dreadful on OS X. I like mouse gestures and use them regularly, but Opera only supports the mouse gestures built into Opera, not the system service ones that work in all my other apps. The same goes for the rest of the system services. No support for the native spellchecker or grammar checker or word statistics. No automatic language translation, dictionary/thesaurus lookup, or text manipulation services. If you give up all the cool OS supplied features of OS X, you might as well be on Windows. I always seems to me like a badly ported Windows app, which is too bad because it is a very nice Windows app.

Re:Error in article: 10.60, not 10.6

[TorKlingberg]

How would the users know it's that site that is broken, and not the browser?

I think the update/latest version sucks

[pgmrdlm]

I have opera installed on all my computers(FreeBSD and Windows) and was a huge fan of the browser. I find that every single web page I try to connect to, including Slashdot, takes forever to load. I have tried using the turbo option with no improvement. I have tested the same pages, right after trying to connect with opera and have found 100 percent improvement in connection and loading speeds. These pages include my bank, various media web pages, and several different forums I belong to.

I've switched my default browser from opera to chrome. I'm ready to uninstall opera, it's not worth trying to browse the web with right now. I have to go to FireFox on FreeBSD because chrome is not ported.

I've been an Opera user for a long time

[obarthelemy]

and I'm on the verge of changing browsers. I paid for Opera back when the choice was between IE, Netscape, and Opera. Been using Opera as my main browser, and very happy with it, since then... must be quasi 10 years now. I'm very sad to see Opera dropping the ball that bad, and not fixing it:

  - basically, 10.x versions are much lower quality than 9.x and before. An occasional hiccup can be understood, but 10.x is kinda old by now, there have been several point releases, and the issues that bother me still are there.
- broken feature 1: mouse gestures. One a large screen, with the mouse set for high velocity and high acceleration, mouse gestures don't register 9 out of 10 times. Chrome does not have that issue. It's probably kinda easy to fix (9.x has the issue, but not as badly).
- broken feature 2: autoscroll. 10.x goes out of autoscroll after a (random) handful of seconds. I've taken to copy-pasting URLs of long documents into Opera 9x, but that's cumbersome.
- broken feature 3: Opera Link keeps overwriting my main PCs bookmarks with stuff from PCs I haven't touched in ages. I'm back to synching bookmarks with backups and restore, and re-doing the rest (custom searches...) by hand.
- broken feature 4: cursor in text boxes. I routinely have issues getting my cursor back into rich-text edit boxes. I actually had the problem right now, and had to click on my comment's title then tab back into my text... this is cumbersome after a while.
- Broken feature 4: some sites that used to work perfectly no longer do. Hotmail is the main one, ZD sites are kinda screwy (the comments section)

I'm a bit disheartened. I've been a Opera fan and advocate for long, and now I feel they've dropped their focus on code quality to chase feature checklists and performance benchmarks. I personnaly don't care if my browser does WebM, or if it's 50% faster at javascript, if I can't use Hotmail, synch my PCs, scroll pages, and otherwise navigate with my mouse. These have been bugs since 10.0 beta, I've reported them, Opera hasn't moved on them.

I used to recommend Opera, I no longer do, and after enduring 10.x for months, I'm ready to leave, too. Chrome's mouse gestures and autoscroll work fine on my PC, as do Hotmail and text boxes...

Re:I've been an Opera user for a long time

[twidarkling]

How odd. I don't use mouse gestures, so I cannot speak to that one. As for the rest, I've never had autoscroll stop on me before. I've had some lag in it stopping when I wanted it to, though. Opera Link does seem to randomly take the older version, you're right there. Not sure that's part of the browser, and more the secondary service (not that it makes a functional difference, I'll admit).

Opposite problem with text boxes. It'll jump to them when a new page loads, even when there's lots of other content, so that's kind of annoying. As for hotmail, I've noticed improvements. It used to be that I couldn't even log in to the service (around 9.7). About the only thing broken in there is that I can't tab around an email message I'm composing.

My biggest issue with the 10.X series is the flashblocker. There used to be a nice UserJS for that, but 10.X broke it some how, and the built-in one doesn't have a white-list that I've found.

Maybe the reason they've not fixed these issues isn't that they're not trying, but that it's more difficult than it seems, since we're having near opposite issues on some points.

Re:I've been an Opera user for a long time

[obarthelemy]

I'll try the uninstall reinstall. Never had the issue prior to 10.x though, and my 9.64-usb still works fine.

Autoscroll is: when you have a very long web page to read, middle-click, drag the mouse down a bit, the page starts scrolling down without you having to roll the scrollwhell nor click the verticla slider (very convenient), and should continue scrolling until you middle-click again, or move the mouse back up. Only it doesn't, and stops after 1-5 seconds.

Opera link is not supposed to randomly overwrite my -recent- main PC's bookmarks with my -old- backup PC's (that haven't changed at all since I last booted it up a month ago).

Re:Error in article: 10.60, not 10.6

[aliquis]

Perhaps, but who cares?

Opera, because if their users notice less sites work they will leave.

Let those sites break.

I agree.

Sites should display identically on every browser

Impossible, and imho not necessary, but I'm not into the teh-interwebs-is-an-application-shit.

and adhere to all standards

You can use standards and still break things. Since an old browser don't support the latest standards. Eventually one reason to check the version.

not utilizing any browser qwirks.

Agreed.

If they don't they are badly designed pages

Or the opposite, not designed sources of Information.

plain and simple. It's not the browser's responsibility to compensate for an incompetent web developer.

True.

Re:If Opera implemented other things right,I'd use

[Fjandr]

No.
6 11.

too many bugs on linux

[mylh]

I love Opera but I've never seen so many bugs in stable release as in this one. I'm using it on linux and I constantly have problems with flash and locked keyboard both at my home and work PCs. This is so anoying that I'm thinking of switching to another browser