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US Pirate Movie Site DNS Seizure Fail

An anonymous reader writes "Last week, the US government in a highly publicized copyright protection frenzy took the extraordinary step of seizing domain names from foreign movie sites like NinjaVideo.net and TVshack.net. While the seizure raises confusing Internet legal / jurisdiction questions (the US and perhaps the state of Kentucky can seize domain names for foreign companies?), this study shows the legal issues may be moot — the raids mostly failed. Within hours of domain name seizure, tvshack.cc was back up and running (but this time using a Chinese registrar and a Cocos Islands ccTLD)."

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  1. Re:Other countries should start policing Internet by klingens · · Score: 5, Informative

    What gives the US the right is simply this: the registry for said TLD is located in the US.

    Just like China can apply their local laws to the TLD registry they control ,.cn, and North Korea can apply its laws to .nk, so can the US do the same for the registries which are based there: .com, .net, .org, .us.

    The same applies to webservers: no matter under what TLD a webserver serves, if it's physically located inside the US, US laws apply to this server. In that case the US can't control the DNS name of the sites which are served but the pages/sites themselves.

    If you don't like that, you can only try to convince your preferred registry to relocate to a country which has laws and procedures which are better suited to your goals. Or you could simply register a domain under that country's TLD.

  2. virus? by MagicM · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just went to tvshack.cc and my virusscanner (NOD32) went nuts and Java things started executing. I killed everything before it had a chance to do anything, but I'd say watch your step if you're going to visit that site.

  3. Re:Other countries should start policing Internet by digitig · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's why you get the three letter TLDs like .com and everybody else has to be satisfied with things like .co.uk and .co.cn. Same reason the UK is the only country that doesn't have the country name on its postage stamps, the USA is the only country that doesn't (have to) have its country identifier as its TLD.

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  4. Re:Other countries should start policing Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    What a crock of shit. Let me know how third party voting and making the government responsible to you goes.

    And this is why third-party voting in the US fails so miserably. "I don't wanna waste my vote by voting for a guy who actually represents what I want in government. I wanna vote for someone who might win."

    Independents and minor parties win seats all the time in other countries.

  5. Re:Other countries should start policing Internet by Mitsoid · · Score: 5, Informative

    I posted elsewhere but feel it's worth mentioning again:

    Illegal property located in the USA was seized by US officials for violating US law. They used a US registrar to point to their content that was illegal in the US. (i.e. don't host your anti-china website in china, don't host your anti-uk site in the UK. If your website violates a countries laws, don't host any part of it IN THAT COUNTRY)

    IN THIS CASE, No foreign countries were involved, No over reaching of US bounds. I agree sometimes the government (while spurred by big business) do this... It is NOT the case here.

    The short: When in a foreign country, do not violate their laws. They 'purchased' something in a country where it was illegal. That illegal property was seized. Their fault for violating local laws.

  6. Re:Other countries should start policing Internet by Penguin+Follower · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yesterday I watched a woman in front of me run over the curb trying to make a right-turn out of a Wendy's while she was talking on the phone. Couldn't even handle a right-turn...... (and drove a BMW SUV by the way so apparently also more money than brains too).

  7. Re:Other countries should start policing Internet by Ragzouken · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you vote for a third party fruitlessly you have wasted your chance to vote for your second choice party, and as a result your last choice party may get in.

  8. Re:Other countries should start policing Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Beck?

    He still hasn't denied raping and killing a girl in 1990. Until he comes clean, I wouldn't trust anything he says.

  9. Re:Other countries should start policing Internet by commodore64_love · · Score: 1, Informative

    >>>He still hasn't denied raping and killing a girl in 1990.

    Yes he has denied it. He's "come clean" as you put it.

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