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Microsoft Out of Favor With Young, Hip Developers

An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft's failures with the KIN phone (only two months on the market, less than 10,000 phones sold) are well-known to this community. Now the NY Times goes farther, quoting Tim O'Reilly: 'Microsoft is totally off the radar of the cool, hip, cutting-edge software developers.' Microsoft has acknowledged that they have lost young developers to the lures of free software. 'We did not get access to kids as they were going through college,' acknowledged Bob Muglia, the president of Microsoft's business software group, in an interview last year. 'And then, when people, particularly younger people, wanted to build a start-up, and they were generally under-capitalized, the idea of buying Microsoft software was a really problematic idea for them.' Microsoft's program to seed start-ups with its software for free requires the fledgling companies to meet certain guidelines and jump through hoops to receive software — while its free competitors simply allow anyone to download products off a website with the click of a button." Update: 07/07 13:21 GMT by T : Tim O'Reilly says that while he "[doesn't] disagree with all of his conclusions," he's not happy with it Ashlee Vance's piece, writing "I was not the source for the various comments that were attributed to me," including the bit about "totally off the radar." (Thanks to reader gbll.)

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  1. Re:An appropriate quote seems to be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    How did Gandhi (not Ghandi) win?

    Here we are, over 60 years after his death. Sure, India is a "democracy", but most of its billion inhabitants still live in third-world squalor. Some are even forced to shit into the very same water that they drink from. Many live in festering huts made of mud and pop bottles, with rotting animal carcases and infection all over the place.

    Even the well-educated in India have become the laughing stock of the technical world, thanks to outsourcing and shitty education. Their call centers are a fucking joke here in the West, their shitty software has caused us nothing but problems, and we laugh at all of the bullshit certifications they have from Microsoft, Sun, Oracle and Cisco.

    Gandhi did not win. India did not win.

  2. Microsoft out of favour with hipster developers by mjwx · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Microsoft still in favour with paid developers and their superiors.

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    Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
  3. orly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Not really. C# is the cleanest language I've ever coded in.

    oh, so you are new to programming. got it. ;)

  4. Nitpick by iammani · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Please... He is Gandhi not Ghandi (I cannot understand why most Americans use this spelling though).

  5. Re:A more appropriate quote seems to be... by CodingHero · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    That so many people in "the industry" for some reason hate C++, which is what is taught these days at college, probably has something to do with it.