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Sidestepping A-to-D Convertors For Town Government's Cable TV?

jake-itguy writes "I am the IT guy for a small town municipality. Comcast called me the other day and told me I had to have a digital-to-analog converter for each TV in the municipality, as Comcast is turning off analog cable in September. I did a quick count, and we have 32 TVs across 6 buildings (22 being in the police and fire departments). Most of the TVs are hung on the walls. I told Comcast having a box for each TV was not acceptable and wanted a different solution. Comcast told me there was no other solution." Read on for more details of the situation, and to see if you can offer Jake any advice for distributing cable service within his Indiana town. jake-itguy continues: "They told me they have been putting these boxes on every TV in each classroom in each school. I laughed when I heard that. I said, 'Do you know how much electricity is going to be needed for each box?' They didn't know the answer. I was bumped up to the next guy in the Comcast hierarchy, who said there was no other solution and I had to pay $3 per month for each box. Being a municipality, we are entitled to free expanded basic cable as a part of the franchise agreement back in 1982.

I know there is a solution, as hospitals and hotels don't have little boxes next their TVs. Unfortunately I haven't found a specific answer to this problem so I am asking Slashdot. Is there a box that can be put in the basement of the town hall that will convert the Comcast signal into a regular digital signal? Most of the TVs in the town have digital tuners per last years a2d conversion of the airwaves. I would be willing to replace the few analog sets with new ones if there is a good solution for this. Each building's cable feed is fed from the town hall. We have a nice big 1-inch cable coming into the building with some splitters coming off the line. Each building gets a 1/2 inch cable. Is there a box that will convert the Comcast signal to analog for the schools? I am sure the schools don't have TVs with digital tuners."

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  1. Are they all tuned to the same channel? by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you don't mind them all being tuned to the same channel, you only need 1 converter box per building. Might also need an RF amplifier to help with distribution since by definition splitting the signal attenuates it.

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    1. Re:Are they all tuned to the same channel? by tweek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "For some people that's half a week's take home pay."

      If someone is only making $170 a week in take home pay, maybe they should stop paying for fucking cable. There are bigger priorities at that point.

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    2. Re:Are they all tuned to the same channel? by vtcodger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you just need to tune to a local news channel for weather alerts and to a few public service channels, Channel Plus makes a nice looking (on paper anyway) four channel modulator for about $150.

      In any case, it doesn't sound to me like Comcast is acting in good faith (like any sane person would expect them to). Probably your best bet is to get your data together. Write up the information in a form that will make sense to an intelligent adult. No easy job. Some of the posts in this thread will give you an idea of the amount of stupidity you will encounter. Estimate current and ongoing costs to maintain your current level of service.

      Armed with your whitepaper, your boss or your boss'es boss should sit down with the town attorney and decide whether to escalate to the state government and/or the Public Utility Commission. Assuming that the franchise agreement supports it, I'd have the suits argue to higher authority that Comcast is obligated to deliver you expanded basic service in analog (or replace your TVs) and how they do it should not be your problem. Comcast should be responsible for the engineering, installation, and maintenance of their solution whatever it is. Who knows, Comcast being possibly the second most despised company (after BP) in many parts of America. The PUC or whoever may see things your way.

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  2. Place them "elsewhere" by bradgoodman · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You could always just place the A-to-D box "upstream" of the TV set - several feet away - in a closet - wherever. It doesn't have to be right on the wall. Use the same Coaxial cable and splice the box in elsewhere. (I am assuming you don't have to change the channels often on these boxes.)

    If several TVs are tuned into the same channel in a building, you could use one box at the point-of-ingest into the building.

  3. franchise agreement by jemtallon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You may want to check the exact wording of the franchise agreement. Depending on how it's worded, if they are required to provide you free access to basic cable and they no longer offer that option, you may have some leverage with them. If nothing else, you may persuade them to give you the hardware at no cost.

  4. Outlaw digital encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Get all of the police and firemen to go to the city council and demand they end the Comcast monopoly and while they are at it, have the city council ban encryption of the digital signal.

    Without a doubt, Comcast will find a solution for you!!!

  5. Re:Cut the cable by jimwelch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Reasons for TV in a City:
    City/Police/Fire - Weather Disasters
    Fire - 24 hr shifts.

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  6. In addition to the technical solution by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Being a municipality, we are entitled to free expanded basic cable as a part of the franchise agreement back in 1982.

    Sounds like you may need to have a quick chat with your city's lawyer about whether Comcast is trying to do an end-run around that agreement. That section may make your problem their problem instead.

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  7. Re:Cut the cable by dcollins · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Enough of this shit. I want my cops & fire department on break to feel like they're well-trained and compensated, trusted professionals, not slave-wagers in the "all your base are belong to the company man" plan. (Also, I want tough and transparent oversight.) Otherwise you get the TSA.

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  8. Re:How many TV's?? by afidel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    More like Fire and Ambulance guys that live in the fire house. You work 12 hours on, only a small fraction of that will typically be active duty so filling the rest or the time with entertainment is fine. It's the price you pay for faster response times than a volunteer department that has to rush to the fire house before heading out to the fire.

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  9. Re:So? by WH44 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Comcast hierarchy, who said there was no other solution and I had to pay $3 per month for each box. Being a municipality, we are entitled to free expanded basic cable as a part of the franchise agreement back in 1982.

    It looks to me, like Mr. Government employee has a point, and that Comcast is contractually obligated to provide those "$3 per month" boxes for free - part of the cost of getting the franchise.

    Maybe then you guys will learn to count and balance your budgets.

    While the IT guy generally isn't responsible for balancing the budget, as you seem to think, he actually is doing a good job of it here by trying to get rid of unnecessary costs.

    What would you have him do? Roll over and take the added costs lying down?