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Concrete That Purifies the Air

fergus07 writes "Although much of the focus of pollution from automobiles centers on carbon emissions, there are other airborne nasties spewing from the tailpipes of fossil fuel-powered vehicles. These include nitrogen oxides (NOx). In the form of nitrogen dioxide it reacts with chemicals produced by sunlight to form nitric acid – a major constituent of acid rain – and also reacts with sunlight, leading to the formation of ozone and smog. Everyone is exposed to small amounts of nitrogen oxides in ambient air, but exposure to higher amounts, in areas of heavy traffic for example, can damage respiratory airways. Testing has shown that surfacing roads with air purifying concrete could make a big contribution to local air purity by reducing the concentration of nitrogen oxides by 25 to 45 percent."

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  1. Please remember... by JustinRLynn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nitrogen oxides go into stone (if there is concrete evidence of this, har har) while nitrous oxide (N2O) gets you stoned.

    ...of course, someone will still confuse the two later in these comments.

  2. Sounds good by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 4, Funny

    So who owns the patent, how much extra does it cost, are there any materials not normally used in concrete that we should be concerned about.

    With the way things are going, it will probably work out like this:

    Monsanto owns the patent, it costs less than what we use now, but it has asbestos, and 10 years after installation if we don't treat it with a special chemical (patented by Monsanto) the asbestos is released spontaneously.

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  3. Re:But at what cost. by Mechanist.tm · · Score: 2, Informative

    ah its 10 % more expensive.

  4. Concrete roads are shit by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They're nice so long as you don't have any heavy weather, ground settling, or seismic activity. Then they go straight to hell and turn into the light version of Ice Crusher in Jet Moto, where you skip from slab to slab with a solid thump with each transition. Even in my MBZ it is enough to turn the stomach. The biggest problem with concrete is that you cannot repair it gracefully as you can with tarmac. If the ground settles under tarmac you plane the highs and fill the lows, then resurface a section of road (hopefully all lanes, but only the affected area in terms of distance.) If the ground settles under 'crete you grind the highs and pray. And if California is any indication, you probably cover it with some tarmac :p

    You can get away with using them for speeds around 25 mph but even that is typically a tragedy. Just say no to concrete highways. Try to avoid using it in civil planning. Even the increased road glare is a hazard.

    Anyone know how much CO2 is produced in the production of the concrete as compared to tarmac?

    Side note: irony is a concrete company called tarmac. Fuckers did it just to confuse people.

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    1. Re:Concrete roads are shit by nordee · · Score: 5, Informative

      Also you can't use salt to de-ice in the winter. Destroys the concrete surface quickly, which is why there are some concrete highways in the Southern US, but none in New England...

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    2. Re:Concrete roads are shit by Gazoogleheimer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Concrete highways have both advantages and disadvantages compared to asphalt paving materials. Concrete typically is more durable and lasts longer if properly laid, however is also nigh-impossible to repair without entirely removing it then repouring the slabs. This is why the majority of highways and roads are paved with asphalt but bridges, overpasses, and ramps are often concrete. And if you're in a vehicle with a suspension, you usually can get away with something a good three times your figure for speed.

    3. Re:Concrete roads are shit by gknoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can get away with using them for speeds around 25 mph but even that is typically a tragedy. Just say no to concrete highways. Try to avoid using it in civil planning. Even the increased road glare is a hazard.

      I've grown up in southern California, where most of our freeways are concrete, though roads are tarmac. I much prefer driving on concrete. I find the glare to be less in the mornings or evenings (though polarized sunglasses help a lot in both cases) than with oily tarmac. Sure, it's likely not so great for a road that doesn't have good maintenance, but for a highway system it is very nice to drive on. I've never encountered the damaged concrete roads that you have, which I think is ironic given that I live(d) in one of the most earthquake-prone parts of the country.

      Another advantage of concrete is that they have cut grooves in many parts of the highways (running parallel to traffic) which allow a small amount of water to settle there. The net result is that I can still see where lane markers are, and the road glare from other car's lights is roughly halved. On a tarmac section of road (such as pretty much everything that isn't a freeway here), it's pure hell to see where the lanes are when it rains. This is especially stressful when there is no physical median between each side of the road, or when your 4-lane road has curves in it. When wet, tarmac is like driving on a mirror -- I can't see a damn thing that's useful, and it scares the hell out of me.

      As a driver, I'd rather drive on concrete roads ALL the time.

      The biggest problem with concrete is that you cannot repair it gracefully as you can with tarmac.... If the ground settles under 'crete you grind the highs and pray.

      The ease of repair is a good point, though. I don't know how much time they spend resurfacing concrete roads. On the other hand, the only times I've seen substantial road work on our freeways has been when they're building NEW portions of road, or are re-surfacing tarmac. The concrete seems to last forever, whereas they end up sending new tarmac crews around to various roads every 5-10 years. I believe (but could be wrong) that tarmac degrades faster than concrete, especially under high traffic. The tarmac roads I drive, with the exception of the ones that have been freshly surfaced, are always in worse condition than the concrete highways which are older.

  5. Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering? by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you can put up with an uncomfy concrete floor in your bathroom you could save a fortune in the long run on matches and glade plugins.

  6. Re:Dissolving Buildings in Europe by chill · · Score: 4, Funny

    So what happens to the roads after a few years when the nitrogen dissolves the road surface and you have to re-pave?

    Uh..you re-pave? Was that a trick question?

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  7. This is an update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is an update on the results of the testing.

  8. Re:Old News? by Trails · · Score: 2, Informative

    You're right. In fact, I saw this on slashdot in 2006.

  9. When it comes to fighting pollution by Nick+Number · · Score: 2, Funny

    My way is the highway.

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  10. Why can it only be roads? by TooMad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Concrete is used all over the place air ie gas goes everywhere. Where there are cars and roads there are plenty of other places to use the air purifying concrete other than a road.

  11. Re:But at what cost. by camelrider · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ah its 10 % more expensive.

    That's big money in a road project!

  12. Re:Old News? by lxs · · Score: 2, Informative

    You're thinking of phosphates. NOx causes smog.

  13. Re:just moving the problem by mlts · · Score: 2, Informative

    Titanium is pretty common. The hard part with it is getting it into alloy form because it has to be smelted without oxygen present or else you get a bunch of titanium dioxide, a lit fart or two, and not much else.

  14. Re:Old News? by StikyPad · · Score: 2, Funny

    What's slashdot?