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After a Decade, Digital Radio Still an Also-Ran In UK

beschra writes "Digital Audio Broadcast (DAB) was developed as early as 1981. After launching in the UK 10 years ago, only 24% of listeners listen on DAB. The article credits a good part of the delay to the fact that the technology was largely developed under the Europe-wide Eureka 147 research project. How does government vs. commercial development help or hinder acceptance of new technology? From the article: '"If Nokia develops something, they'll be bringing out the handsets before you know it," [analyst Grant Goddard says]. "Because DAB was a pan-European development, you had to have agreement from all sides before you could do anything. That meant progress was extremely slow." But this alone did not account for the hold-up. The sheer complexity of introducing and regulating the system was also a major factor, Mr. Goddard adds."'

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  1. Hmm, I wonder by somersault · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It couldn't be something to do with the fact that the cheapest DAB radio I can find right now is £35 (£60 if you want something portable), whereas you can get a portable FM receiver for under £5? Nah, it must be to do with the regulations and standards!

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    1. Re:Hmm, I wonder by pjt33 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And also that FM is more tolerant of bad reception.

    2. Re:Hmm, I wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      FM's anything but obsolete, it's simple, effective and extremely robust, DAB's simply not good enough to replace it.

    3. Re:Hmm, I wonder by tverbeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

      FM obsolete? Hardly. If it were obsolete people would be eagerly looking to replace their FM receivers. The main problem with DAB is that FM works just fine. It's widely deployed, highly fault-tolerant, and it gets the job done. It ain't broke, so it shouldn't be a surprise that "fixing" it with a digital replacement hasn't gone all that well. (The only problem with the governmental way it was done is that it's taken so long to demonstrate that there's no demand for it; a market-driven "conversion" would've shown that more quickly.)

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    4. Re:Hmm, I wonder by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      FM is better quality that most DAB stations. Many now broadcast in mono at 96kbps or less. It has nothing to do with bandwidth or anything like that, the DAB management simply charge too much for stereo streams at a reasonable bitrate.

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  2. my DAB radio lasted 13 months... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We were told that you got no interference, you could listen to anything anywhere, it was the wonder radio of your dreams. Load of bollocks as usual. You can't pick it up in cars, they need an external aerial fitted. You get bad reception in a building, the DAB radio has to be near a window. When reception is bad, you don't get silence, you get clunky chunky blocks of noise which makes it un-listenable.

    And, I have FM radios that are over 20 years old and working fine. My new DAB radio (£30), bought in May 2009, broke on Monday. I'm not buying a replacement. It's bollocks.

  3. Re:Or people don't think it's worth it. by IBBoard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The BBC news article I saw seemed to imply that Freeview had done comparatively well, where as DAB had floundered. I think the difference is in what it provides and what people want. As you said, the main benefit for DAB is the odd radio station that some people might listen to (6 Music, etc), where as Freeview gets you about 10x the channels, better teletext, and things like the "Red Button" on BBC that lets you pick various looping broadcasts of news or different views of sports events etc. Comparatively, it's a no brainer - Freeview gives you something of value extra, where as DAB costs more for a radio and doesn't gain most people very much (and radio probably isn't as important to most people as TV anyway)

  4. Battery life is the problem by Frekja · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real problem with DAB isn't price or features. It's battery life. My FM/LW radio lasts over a month of regular use. A similarly sized portable DAB unit manages about 6-8 hours. Why would I 'upgrade'?

  5. funny summary by obarthelemy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find the free market plug kinda funny in that instance: if you let the free market decide, you don't get Nokia nor the Euro GSM standard, you get the US mess of incompatible operators and standards, with each company trying to push their agenda, their patent-encumbered techs... How would you like your radio to work in the UK, but not in Ireland ? Or to work on the public channels, but not with some private ones ? Or to work only with tailor-made, more expensive sets ?

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    1. Re:funny summary by Xemu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Patents are just another form of regulation. There is no true "free market" when companies can artificially stop competition using lawsuits. Or alternatively, there is just as much free market in Europe, where there is a GSM standard. Regulation either does or doesn't eliminate a free market. You can't have it both ways.

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  6. Non-interactivity is *the point* by sznupi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Really, people value the non-interactivity, it's a benefit. Sometimes you just want to fill the background with good enough music / etc. while doing something else (I suspect also not wanting something great - not wanting to be hooked too much); with scheduled short news service every hour a nice bonus (also one you don't have to actively follow, but still be certain that important news will reach you)

    This blog post covers it quite nicely:

    the vast majority of the radio listeners don't listen to music. They hear music instead. There's a difference. They put the kids on the SUV, and drive them to school, and turn on the radio in the meantime. Or, they're stuck in traffic, pissed off, and need to listen to "easy" music to pass the time. Or, they're sitting on their sofa, reading a magazine, and have the radio ON as a background.

    Very few people actually drive somewhere in order to turn on the radio and listen to music. Or sit on their sofa, closing their eyes, and listen to just music. Normal people instead, are so busy with their lives, their problems, the quick pace of this civilization, that simply don't have the time to discover new music. Listening to unknown kind of melodies, or new kinds of sub-genres altogether, takes them out of their comfort zone. Listening to something like Dan Deacon instead of Lady Gaga, for example, while the kids shout at each other at the back of the car, makes it difficult to level your head. Not only you have your problems, but you have this new 'annoying' music playing instead of the music (or kind of music) you already know so well.

    Basically, commercial radio works as a kind of a depressant for the masses. At first, it feels like music is exactly the opposite: an excitement that is, but in reality, in the large scheme of things, as far as FM radio is concerned, it's nothing but one of the ways that helps you kept in check. No, this is not a conspiracy theory, it's just how things work. Listeners want it that way too.

    That's also BTW why any possible benefits of DAB are probably irrelevant - people are happy with very few stations already. For anything more there are ways you mention.

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  7. Yes exactly that by CdBee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So relatively few people have them that the cost to society of abandoning DAB and finding something that works properly is negligible. Do it. Do it now. Don't let people buy into a failed experiment.

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  8. Re:Nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Only those with a vested interest are pushing it (which unfortunately includes the government because they see the opportunity to make money by flogging off the frequency spectrum currently used by FM).

    The really funny thing is, when they come to sell the FM space, no one will want it as no doubt the pirates will take it over.

    There are millions of FM receivers in this country, and at some point they will all be purposefully obsoleted at once. People will inevitably step up to fill this void, and suddenly the radio waves will be full of stations not wanting to listen to regulators.

    And I can't wait. The playlist-format that dominates radio stations these days make listening to them very annoying - the same records over and over. Hell, the same stations all over the dial - the other day I was waiting for a mate in the car, and was bored, so skipped through FM 0.1MHz at a time, to see what pirate stations were around. At least 3 different frequencies were exactly the same station, all with different RDS names. And even the independent places all play the same shitty pop-music.

    Fuck the commercial radio stations, bring on the pirates! DAB may well be the best thing that happens to UK radio in years, but not for the reasons the DAB crowd want it to be.