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SVG and the Indexing of Web Standards
wombatmobile writes "The world's most popular search engine company is a leading supporter of open standards. It pours money and people into initiatives that promote, assist, support and implement Web standards. As a core foundation of is mission statement, all web assets should ideally be of a kind that it can work with. Strange then, that the world's most popular search engine doesn't index all of the current important Web standards formats. Doug Schepers of W3C blogs about how Scalable Vector Graphics content is recognized and not recognized by search engines, currently and historically." Readability really helps out on this site.
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I think...
But maybe I'm wrong.
Does having a witty signature really indicate normality?
This is the great thing about standards: There's so many to choose from!
#fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
i suppose it has nothing to do with the fact that svg is
as complicated as javascript which itself is a more intricate
language than c++.
I don't know why this guy is using filetype Google searches to find out how common SVG and Flash content is.
SVG content makes up just 0.106% of all Web content, by my rough estimation. Flash is almost 5 times as common as SVG. That's pretty grim for SVG. ... But wait, let's put that into perspective. Flash is about 4.8 times more common than SVG. HTML is roughly 838 times more common than SVG. 838 times. Flash content comprises approximately 0.52% of all Web content, and HTML is roughly 189 times more common than Flash.
Let *me* put that into perspective. Most Flash content is deployed via JavaScript, so it won't show in a Google filetype search. None of the sites with Flash I've worked on would pop SWF filetype results in Google. Saying that Flash to SVG are 5 to 1 is hilarious, given the-still-leading browser on the market, IE, supports zero SVG content (to change with IE9 which is in alpha right now).
Saying that Flash is 0.52% of the content of the web is also hilarious. Even just counting the countless embedded YouTube players in blogs would change those numbers drastically.
SVG content makes up just 0.106% of all Web content, by my rough estimation. Flash is almost 5 times as common as SVG. That's pretty grim for SVG.
How is that "grim" for SVG? Flash isn't just used for vector graphics and animations anymore....
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
That site serves as a poster child for why Safari 5.0's "Reader" feature exists.
There are two types of people in the world: people who think there are two types of people in the world and people who don’t. I’m among the first type and I think the world is divided into people who recognize the Jewish problem and people who don’t.
In other words, the world is divided into smart people and dumb people. If you’ve got an IQ of 80, have difficulty operating a can-opener, and recognize the Jewish problem, you’re smart. If you’ve got an IQ of 180, have already won a couple of Nobel Prizes, and don’t recognize the Jewish problem, you’re dumb.
I’ve been dumb for most of my life: it took me a long time to recognize the Jewish problem. I didn’t think for myself, I just accepted the propaganda and conformed to the consensus. Jews are good people. Only bad people criticize Jews. Jews good. Anti-Semites bad. But then, very slowly, I started to see the light.
Recognizing Jewish hypocrisy was the first big step. I was reading an article by someone called Rabbi Julia Neuberger, a prominent British liberal. I didn’t like liberals then, so I didn’t like her for that (and because her voice and manner had always grated on me), but her Jewishness wasn’t something I particularly noticed. But as I read the article I came across something that didn’t strike me as very liberal: she expressed concern about Jews marrying Gentiles, because this threatened the survival of the Jewish people.
That made me sit up and think. Hold on, I thought, I know this woman sits on all sorts of “multi-cultural” committees and is constantly being invited onto TV and radio to yap about the joys of diversity and the evils of racism. She’s all in favor of mass immigration and there’s no way she’s worried about Whites marrying non-Whites, because “Race is Just a Social Construct” and “We’re All the Same Under the Skin”. She’s a liberal and she thinks that race-mixing is good and healthy and Holy. Yet this same woman is worried about Jews marrying Gentiles. Small contradiction there, n'est ce-pas?
Well, no. Big contradiction. She obviously didn’t apply the same rules to everyone else as she applied to her own people, the Jews. She was, in short, a hypocrite. But not just that – she was a Jewish hypocrite. And that’s a big step for a brainwashed White to take: not just thinking in a negative way about a Jew, but thinking in a negative way about a Jew because of her Jewishness.
After that, I slowly started to see the world in a different way. Or to be more precise: I started to see the world. I started to see what had always been there: the massive over-representation of Jews in politics and the media. And I started to notice that a lot of those Jews – like Rabbi Julia Neuberger, in fact – gave me the creeps. There was something slimy and oily and flesh-crawling about them. And it wasn’t just me, either: other Gentiles seemed to feel it too.
Politicians often attract nicknames based on some outstanding aspect of their character or behavior. Margaret Thatcher was “The Iron Lady”. Ronald Reagan was “Teflon Ron”. Bill Clinton was “Slick Willy”. But these are Gentile politicians and their nicknames are at least half-affectionate. Jewish politicians seem to attract a different kind of nickname. In Britain, Gerald Kaufman, bald, homosexual Member of Parliament for Manchester Gorton, is nicknamed “Hannibal Lecter”. Peter Mandelson, now Britain’s Euro-Commissioner and Tony Blair’s suspected former lover, is “The Prince of Darkness”. Michael Howard (né Hecht), the leader of the British Conservative Party, is “Dracula”.
When I noticed this kind of thing, I started to ask questions. What was going on here? Why did Jews attract nicknames like that? And why had Gentiles reacted to them like that not just now, but a long way into the past? Shakesp
The trouble with mentally ill people is, they think it is legitimate to squat topics in order to dispense dumb hate talk.
Léa Gris
I was with you right up until the end - silver bullets only work on werewolves. Nice try, though.
How does one search for scalable vector graphics that are in *.xml files?
There are two types of people in the world: people who think there are two types of people in the world and people who don't. I'm among the first type and I think the world is divided into people who think there are two types of people in the world and people who don't.
Fixed that for you. Unless of course you meant that gentiles are the people who think there are two types of people, and that being Jewish prevented one from thinking there are only two types of people. Then I suppose you'd being internally consistent in your argument.
The rest of your troll post is the usual insane ravings of a KKK member. Go back to 1930's Germany and sign up for the Nazi Party, Adolf.
With Apple and others pushing canvas, the future of SVG isn't looking bright. I am not sure which one is better, but SVG seems to be the one on the way out, especially after Adobe stopped supporting SVG.
You could implement whole web-apps as a single SVG file if you so desired. That is, if all browsers had full support of SVGs- and as my job this summer is in part to work on WebKit SVG support, let me assure you, nobody is fully compliant yet. But we're getting there. (Damn you Sub-resource loading!)
SVG is one displayable object type within a canvas.
SVG is something that I wish had taken off, but I think it is doomed. It is a wonderful format - I've written a few SVG generators for various purposes, and it is clean, easy and beautiful. I think it was missing a champion - Adobe dabbled with it, but it seems like it was a hedged bet for them - they always prefer things over which they have more control, which I guess should be expected behavior by now.
Or maybe the problem is that it is too general-purpose, so support has been diffuse, with no clear niche to really win in.
Or both. But this has happened before - a great technology that through historic accident and/or failing to have a compelling story to carry it doesn't quite get the combination of attention and demand that drives adoption. It is too bad - the combination of SVG and JS are really quite elegant for a broad class of neato things. (Which might be the problem- it see like the rule is when given the option, always use elegant for yourself, but bet against it. Enjoy the sushi, but put your money in fast food.)
I forget what 8 was for.
easy to make and edit by hand (it's xml!).
That is so 1970. Get a draw program.
from the sideli8es, operating Systems
Hey, they work on vampires, too! Although maybe impaling the vicious little spit-monkeys on a wooden stake really would be more appropriate.
err sorry there is no god given right for all of your pages to be indexed, Google only indexes pages it considers important and that will (in Googles opinion) add value to a searcher.
What information in a SVG would be useful to a searcher? And SVG and flash are difficult for Google to spider and extract useful information from.
For such low quality pages why should any search engine waste resource on it? Its just wasting their resources and also a svg page counts towards a sites page cap so its not good for the sites owner.
^^^Jew!
SVG content makes up just 0.106% of all Web content, by my rough estimation.
Wow, that guy's rough estimates are up at the permille level. Impressive.
Bing uses open standards?! o_O I guess Microsoft has changed....
... the lack of support for SVG is one of the reasons why the GNU/Linux distro timeline keeps PNGs in addition to SVGs even though they are inferior (file size and hyperlinks).
And those that don't can use plugins.
The sorts of PCs that have Internet Explorer as the only installed web browser, especially versions of IE before 8, are also the sorts of PCs where the user lacks the credentials to become an administrator. So even if you do use the Google Chrome Frame plug-in, users are only going to see a password prompt when trying to install it.
Assuming that you can look at a series of coordinates for Bezier control points and visualise the result.
It's not that hard. Put your on-curve points at horizontal, vertical, or 45-degree slope, and then put the off-curve control points at the intersection of the tangent lines. This involves a bunch of zeroes and the occasional subtraction, but one can get the hang of it.
Exercise: Draw a circle with eight Bezier curve segments. (Answer)
They're all preachy-preachy about open standards, but when it comes to *their* products, they mangle them entirely. Take IMAP (Gmail) and CalDAV (Google Calendar), for example. In both cases, The Big G decided to "adopt" the currently in-place standard, with a few modifications because they feel it wasn't done quite right. The end result is a crap experience when you use the services in anything other than a web browser.
And you could do to learn how to behave like a grownup. I'm not going to dickwave about it, but have written rather a lot of code against the relevant specs; if you're working in this space, you're probably using some of my code.
I think we're suffering from a difference of semantics. I wouldn't call PDF Postscript. Because it isn't. Once upon a time, one could be forgiven for confusing the two, and there were even PoC valid-PDF documents that you could pipe to a printer, but they're quite divergent how. Similarly, I don't think that, because they share imperatives, calling Canvas the same as SVG is right, because they are different things and will become more different over time.
I forget what 8 was for.