It's not so simple. I approached the FBI with a proposal to use the military's already proven laser guidance and tracking systems to detect and rapidly respond to these threats. They apparently filed it under "kook" and never responded. The FBI is not interested in actually solving these cases. They're interested in finding someone to make an example out of and hopes that'll provide enough deterrence.
They should have synergized their market paradigms more to create a more linguistically diverse user experience. It's only gonna get worse though... once Beta consumes the site, all that'll be left is the outward appearance of a badly edited blog.with comments enabled.
Not at all. Traditions are long-standing things. If they're interrupted for awhile and then brought back, that's part of it's history, not to delineate to say "Oh, well, that was one tradition, and this is another". It's still the same tradition, it's just been resurrected.
It's a 118 year old tradition that happens to have copied the name from a 2790 year old tradition that ceased to exist about 1600 years ago. The ancient olympics have been gone 16 times longer than the modern olympics have been going. It's a tradition. It's just a bit of a stretch to say it's a 4000 year old tradition.
It started in 776 BC. 776 + 2014 = 2790... Not so much of a stretch.
I suppose a 4000 year old tradition of having an open and international series of games to bring about peace and cultural tolerance/friendship might confuse some people into thinking that as a global event, the ability to view and participate in them would be something not controlled by a single group of greedy profit-oriented people who don't care to hear the clamours of said participants. Sorta like Slashdot beta....
I wonder if we'll have to use emergency generators and radio receivers to recover from Dicepocalypse...
This is an emergency public service announcement... a zombie infection has broken out and it eats the brains of those affected. So far, only about two dozen people, all middle and senior managers of content aggregation websites, have been infected. If you see one of these husks, contact authorities immediately and do not approach them... This is an emergency...
Anyone else notice that management's solution to the great slashdot uprising is to create dummy accounts and mass downmod everyone? Yeah. Like it just ended yesterday evening.
Slashdot Managers: Fuck you. You've lost another user. After this week, I'm done. Game over. Goodbye. Hope your Web 2.0 beta mcbullshit was worth it.
Does NYPD's Google Glass clone have an app for reporting idiot marketers who don't listen to their users? Something like
--- You are being assaulted by Idiot Managers --- You can: [ ] File a report with the NYPD [ ] Upmod a post about how crappy their customer service is. [ ] Sell off stock you own of theirs [ ] Close your account [ ] Other (Place eyeball here for more options)
Thank you for acknowledging us. I'd like to see a new SlashDot that's even better than the old. Please let us help you define it.
All of this could have been avoided if you guys had simply listened to the people using beta beforehand. Didn't you see in your logs people desperately trying to claw their way back to "classic"? If you had a notion of rolling out as a real beta, you'd have left a prominent button at the top of the page saying "Go back to classic". Did you not check your e-mails? Did you not see the people reporting in their sig blocks that beta sucked? I mean, this was a problem well before now, and it was ignored. And now for three whole days of constant barrages of the forums, we get this? A token "Oh we heard you", but with no specific answer? We said it sucks. Make it go away. "Ah, we're redirecting 25% of traffic now!".. How is this an admission that it's a massive clusterfuck and you're going to pull it and have a re-think? It still appears to be full steam ahead.
Pull over, Slashdot. You're lost. And possibly drunk. Re-assess where you are, where you want to go, and then try again. Don't double down on stupid.
The whole point of the beta is to get feedback from the community. If we were ignoring you, we would have just flipped the switch and not looked back.
Soul, I know you are in a difficult position, having been told to do spin control for a furious userbase. But you don't have to insult our intelligence. Redirects to beta were going on well before this, and the sentiment hasn't changed. It's been negative from the moment people started getting redirected. Management has been ignoring the users from day one under the notion that they'll like it once they get used to it, and hey, look at how Facebook changes things and people complain, but keep using Facebook.
But your seniors don't seem to understand that this isn't Facebook. This isn't a site for the general population, and it's not irreplaceable nor without intense competition. There are thousands of internet forum sites out there, many of whom have the same target audience. I do not buy the argument for one second that management was ignorant of the poor opinion held of it's new "beta".
I get that they bought the house and now they want to repaint it so it's "theirs", but they've gone too far. Very far too far. They have failed to understand their target audience completely, believing that we're just like any other of the dozens of assets they hold in their portfolio, and it'll homogenize with the rest if they just stay the course.
It won't. They're going to tank their investment and once the users bail, they won't come back. They'll be like the MySpace of the IT world: It was popular at one time, but now it's a ghost website nobody cares about, just another content aggregation website, and not even a particularly valuable one. Nobody wants to see this happen... apparently, except for the senior management. We've spoken clearly, and unequivocably, in every possible way, that this is a bad decision. We've been doing this for days, and have received no indications from these people that they've even noticed.
Do we have to set fire to the facilities they live in? DDoS all their sites? I mean, really, Soulskill... we've exhausted every avenue to let these people know "Hey dudes, train coming. Train. Big train. Honk honk. Motherfucking train, on the mother fucking tracks, coming your way. TRAIN."... And they seem to be content to just lay there like some drunk and wait for it to run them over.
If this is how it has to be, fine. But at least tell us that if Slashdot goes tits up someone on the Dice board of directors is getting shit-canned... because otherwise, the nerd rage that has built up here is going to find other, less pleasant, ways of extracting their pound of flesh from Dice. If you think the Slashdot Effect on other websites is bad... wait until a hundred thousand pissed off IT people each sitting on massive bandwidth pipes, decide to ping the SS Dice Fail Boat. It will not be pretty.
With all the rants about the beta, I have yet to see specifics as to what is less functional or causing such distress. It is different, but exactly what is causing such frustration? It's just a news feed, afterall, nobody's life or liberty is being harmed.
There was nothing wrong with the Edsel car either. I mean, it had four wheels and it got you from point A to point B. Fun fact: Aesthetics matter too.
Too bad Slashdot beta won't shatter into dust on command
Well, it was clearly designed by some kind of weapons grade stupid. This could be the prototype for it... it just failed to deploy as intended and so we're stuck with this digital Exxon Valdeez puking up mangled content and terrible design all along the shores of our global networks as it's drunken pilots sing "We're gonna beeeeee rich! da da do do de daaaa...."
Is Dice Holdings that owns/. the same Dice that creates Battlefield? Just curious.
Does Battlefield look like it was gangbanged by a team of toddlers with pastel construction paper and cut-outs of magazine advertisements? Well then, there's your answer: No. Battlefield still looks like something cool, designed by adults, not middle managers who rode the short bus and still have to use the safety scissors.
1. Military electronics 2. Dice Holdings, Inc.'s bottom line.
That's pretty much the sentiment. But here's an idea: Rob Malda (may God bless him in our time of ultimate need) gave us a tool to fight off our oppressors: The source code that powers classic slashdot. The kryptonite of the Overlords. Let us come together now with a kickstarter project, crowdsource our way into the amazon cloud, and free ourselves of these idiot fucktard web 2.0 morons. We have the technology! We can build it faster. Better. Stronger.
No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!
We'd rather we keep our old hangout, but if necessary, we have the slashcode, and it's not like AWS is expensive. We'll just take the open sourced code, raise the black flag, and then ram Slashdot... and it shall sink, and Dice shall drown, and shiver me timbers, we'll have our Slashdot 2.0... it just won't suck.
What a coincidence, Dice thinks of Slashdot as another sausage coming from their factory, that needs to be standardized.
Yes, and in that briefest of moments, they epitomized everything wrong with society today. While we all talk about individuality and uniqueness, our economy is built on one-size-fits-all and making carbon copies of everything. Our houses, furniture, cars... pretty much everything we own comes off an assembly line. And the kicker? It's still more diversity than we're seeing on newly launched websites. Invariably, it's pastels, square blocks, and while it's pretty to look at, it's functionally about as useful as a flat tire on the interstate. Which is to say, you can move the car.. but you're not going to enjoy it.
The internet's standards and protocols were built to allow for a nearly limitless selection of design, every kind of spoken and written language, multimedia... it's all there. So why then, do the couple hundred people that hold all the money in the world seem to have homogenized into a single herd... charging like lemmings over cliffs while screaming "You're gonna follow us or else!?" Is it some kind of power trip? Some kind of collective psychosis?
I mean, how loudly do we have to say it before they get the message? Do we have to literally burn down their offices around them before they can see the people outside holding the signs that say "You had a good thing going. Then you fucked it up so bad nobody wants it anymore. TAKE THE HINT." ?! I am geniunely curious as to how this kind of disconnect becomes so severe without any warning indicators appearing. It's not like we haven't been telling them it sucks from day one. Do they not have focus groups? Did they not check their e-mail for the past, uhh... six months? Or is this an institutionalized case of confirmation bias and arrogance taken to a level in excess of that even seen in government?
I really do want to know how a load of fail this big happens. It's an excellent marketing study on how not to do it. We should teach this shit in classrooms.
New Beta Sucks. Overlords gone profit mad! Dogs and cats, laying together! Even the Ghostbusters can't help us!
That's pretty much the sentiment. But here's an idea: Rob Malda (may God bless him in our time of ultimate need) gave us a tool to fight off our oppressors: The source code that powers classic slashdot. The kryptonite of the Overlords. Let us come together now with a kickstarter project, crowdsource our way into the amazon cloud, and free ourselves of these idiot fucktard web 2.0 morons. We have the technology! We can build it faster. Better. Stronger.
I think nothing less than having similar comments as the top-rated for each story will convince them of that. Let us start here. Spread the word: Our dice overlords must hear of the nerdy wrath!
Demons come from another plain of existence. A parallel dimension of destruction, evil, and despair. While they are 'alien' to humanity, not so much in the classical sense of other worldly creatures that originate in our universe.
I think you've confused middle management with lovecraftian horror beasts. It's okay though, the differences are subtle. Middle management consists of risk-averse middle-aged people who wouldn't know a good idea if it fell on their left foot. Lovecraftian horror beasts, on the other hand, are intelligent hunting critters that know their head from their ass.
Slashdot Mirror
It's not so simple. I approached the FBI with a proposal to use the military's already proven laser guidance and tracking systems to detect and rapidly respond to these threats. They apparently filed it under "kook" and never responded. The FBI is not interested in actually solving these cases. They're interested in finding someone to make an example out of and hopes that'll provide enough deterrence.
It won't.
Merely punctuational errorification:
They should have synergized their market paradigms more to create a more linguistically diverse user experience. It's only gonna get worse though... once Beta consumes the site, all that'll be left is the outward appearance of a badly edited blog.with comments enabled.
Not at all. Traditions are long-standing things. If they're interrupted for awhile and then brought back, that's part of it's history, not to delineate to say "Oh, well, that was one tradition, and this is another". It's still the same tradition, it's just been resurrected.
Yeah, looks like the currency market is still in beta. /snark
It's a 118 year old tradition that happens to have copied the name from a 2790 year old tradition that ceased to exist about 1600 years ago. The ancient olympics have been gone 16 times longer than the modern olympics have been going. It's a tradition. It's just a bit of a stretch to say it's a 4000 year old tradition.
It started in 776 BC. 776 + 2014 = 2790 ... Not so much of a stretch.
And why is it that you are owed free content?
I suppose a 4000 year old tradition of having an open and international series of games to bring about peace and cultural tolerance/friendship might confuse some people into thinking that as a global event, the ability to view and participate in them would be something not controlled by a single group of greedy profit-oriented people who don't care to hear the clamours of said participants. Sorta like Slashdot beta....
We can use the blackholes generated by the super sized collider to wipe out beta once and for all.
No need. It's already approaching implosion... site traffic has been cut by a third.
Also, has someone volunteered to put up a slashcott update site (maybe with statistics on how well/poorly the site is doing during the blockade?)
Yup. falling like a rock.
I wonder if we'll have to use emergency generators and radio receivers to recover from Dicepocalypse...
This is an emergency public service announcement... a zombie infection has broken out and it eats the brains of those affected. So far, only about two dozen people, all middle and senior managers of content aggregation websites, have been infected. If you see one of these husks, contact authorities immediately and do not approach them... This is an emergency...
Anyone else notice that management's solution to the great slashdot uprising is to create dummy accounts and mass downmod everyone? Yeah. Like it just ended yesterday evening.
Slashdot Managers: Fuck you. You've lost another user. After this week, I'm done. Game over. Goodbye. Hope your Web 2.0 beta mcbullshit was worth it.
Dice Holdings Shows Internet How to Royally Screw Up Website Without Being Hacked
FTFY
It optimizes the Web 3.0 paradigm for maximal user experience and audience impactfulness.
How much pepto did you have to drink before you could say that and not vomit in your mouth? The internet wants to know.
Does NYPD's Google Glass clone have an app for reporting idiot marketers who don't listen to their users? Something like
--- You are being assaulted by Idiot Managers ---
You can:
[ ] File a report with the NYPD
[ ] Upmod a post about how crappy their customer service is.
[ ] Sell off stock you own of theirs
[ ] Close your account
[ ] Other (Place eyeball here for more options)
Thank you for acknowledging us. I'd like to see a new SlashDot that's even better than the old. Please let us help you define it.
All of this could have been avoided if you guys had simply listened to the people using beta beforehand. Didn't you see in your logs people desperately trying to claw their way back to "classic"? If you had a notion of rolling out as a real beta, you'd have left a prominent button at the top of the page saying "Go back to classic". Did you not check your e-mails? Did you not see the people reporting in their sig blocks that beta sucked? I mean, this was a problem well before now, and it was ignored. And now for three whole days of constant barrages of the forums, we get this? A token "Oh we heard you", but with no specific answer? We said it sucks. Make it go away. "Ah, we're redirecting 25% of traffic now!" .. How is this an admission that it's a massive clusterfuck and you're going to pull it and have a re-think? It still appears to be full steam ahead.
Pull over, Slashdot. You're lost. And possibly drunk. Re-assess where you are, where you want to go, and then try again. Don't double down on stupid.
The whole point of the beta is to get feedback from the community. If we were ignoring you, we would have just flipped the switch and not looked back.
Soul, I know you are in a difficult position, having been told to do spin control for a furious userbase. But you don't have to insult our intelligence. Redirects to beta were going on well before this, and the sentiment hasn't changed. It's been negative from the moment people started getting redirected. Management has been ignoring the users from day one under the notion that they'll like it once they get used to it, and hey, look at how Facebook changes things and people complain, but keep using Facebook.
But your seniors don't seem to understand that this isn't Facebook. This isn't a site for the general population, and it's not irreplaceable nor without intense competition. There are thousands of internet forum sites out there, many of whom have the same target audience. I do not buy the argument for one second that management was ignorant of the poor opinion held of it's new "beta".
I get that they bought the house and now they want to repaint it so it's "theirs", but they've gone too far. Very far too far. They have failed to understand their target audience completely, believing that we're just like any other of the dozens of assets they hold in their portfolio, and it'll homogenize with the rest if they just stay the course.
It won't. They're going to tank their investment and once the users bail, they won't come back. They'll be like the MySpace of the IT world: It was popular at one time, but now it's a ghost website nobody cares about, just another content aggregation website, and not even a particularly valuable one. Nobody wants to see this happen... apparently, except for the senior management. We've spoken clearly, and unequivocably, in every possible way, that this is a bad decision. We've been doing this for days, and have received no indications from these people that they've even noticed.
Do we have to set fire to the facilities they live in? DDoS all their sites? I mean, really, Soulskill... we've exhausted every avenue to let these people know "Hey dudes, train coming. Train. Big train. Honk honk. Motherfucking train, on the mother fucking tracks, coming your way. TRAIN." ... And they seem to be content to just lay there like some drunk and wait for it to run them over.
If this is how it has to be, fine. But at least tell us that if Slashdot goes tits up someone on the Dice board of directors is getting shit-canned... because otherwise, the nerd rage that has built up here is going to find other, less pleasant, ways of extracting their pound of flesh from Dice. If you think the Slashdot Effect on other websites is bad... wait until a hundred thousand pissed off IT people each sitting on massive bandwidth pipes, decide to ping the SS Dice Fail Boat. It will not be pretty.
With all the rants about the beta, I have yet to see specifics as to what is less functional or causing such distress. It is different, but exactly what is causing such frustration? It's just a news feed, afterall, nobody's life or liberty is being harmed.
There was nothing wrong with the Edsel car either. I mean, it had four wheels and it got you from point A to point B. Fun fact: Aesthetics matter too.
Too bad Slashdot beta won't shatter into dust on command
Well, it was clearly designed by some kind of weapons grade stupid. This could be the prototype for it... it just failed to deploy as intended and so we're stuck with this digital Exxon Valdeez puking up mangled content and terrible design all along the shores of our global networks as it's drunken pilots sing "We're gonna beeeeee rich! da da do do de daaaa...."
Is Dice Holdings that owns /. the same Dice that creates Battlefield? Just curious.
Does Battlefield look like it was gangbanged by a team of toddlers with pastel construction paper and cut-outs of magazine advertisements? Well then, there's your answer: No. Battlefield still looks like something cool, designed by adults, not middle managers who rode the short bus and still have to use the safety scissors.
1. Military electronics
2. Dice Holdings, Inc.'s bottom line.
That's pretty much the sentiment. But here's an idea: Rob Malda (may God bless him in our time of ultimate need) gave us a tool to fight off our oppressors: The source code that powers classic slashdot. The kryptonite of the Overlords. Let us come together now with a kickstarter project, crowdsource our way into the amazon cloud, and free ourselves of these idiot fucktard web 2.0 morons. We have the technology! We can build it faster. Better. Stronger.
And free of Dic--Derp Holdings. Discuss.
No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!
We'd rather we keep our old hangout, but if necessary, we have the slashcode, and it's not like AWS is expensive. We'll just take the open sourced code, raise the black flag, and then ram Slashdot... and it shall sink, and Dice shall drown, and shiver me timbers, we'll have our Slashdot 2.0... it just won't suck.
What a coincidence, Dice thinks of Slashdot as another sausage coming from their factory, that needs to be standardized.
Yes, and in that briefest of moments, they epitomized everything wrong with society today. While we all talk about individuality and uniqueness, our economy is built on one-size-fits-all and making carbon copies of everything. Our houses, furniture, cars... pretty much everything we own comes off an assembly line. And the kicker? It's still more diversity than we're seeing on newly launched websites. Invariably, it's pastels, square blocks, and while it's pretty to look at, it's functionally about as useful as a flat tire on the interstate. Which is to say, you can move the car.. but you're not going to enjoy it.
The internet's standards and protocols were built to allow for a nearly limitless selection of design, every kind of spoken and written language, multimedia... it's all there. So why then, do the couple hundred people that hold all the money in the world seem to have homogenized into a single herd... charging like lemmings over cliffs while screaming "You're gonna follow us or else!?" Is it some kind of power trip? Some kind of collective psychosis?
I mean, how loudly do we have to say it before they get the message? Do we have to literally burn down their offices around them before they can see the people outside holding the signs that say "You had a good thing going. Then you fucked it up so bad nobody wants it anymore. TAKE THE HINT." ?! I am geniunely curious as to how this kind of disconnect becomes so severe without any warning indicators appearing. It's not like we haven't been telling them it sucks from day one. Do they not have focus groups? Did they not check their e-mail for the past, uhh... six months? Or is this an institutionalized case of confirmation bias and arrogance taken to a level in excess of that even seen in government?
I really do want to know how a load of fail this big happens. It's an excellent marketing study on how not to do it. We should teach this shit in classrooms.
New Beta Sucks. Overlords gone profit mad! Dogs and cats, laying together! Even the Ghostbusters can't help us!
That's pretty much the sentiment. But here's an idea: Rob Malda (may God bless him in our time of ultimate need) gave us a tool to fight off our oppressors: The source code that powers classic slashdot. The kryptonite of the Overlords. Let us come together now with a kickstarter project, crowdsource our way into the amazon cloud, and free ourselves of these idiot fucktard web 2.0 morons. We have the technology! We can build it faster. Better. Stronger.
And free of Dic--Derp Holdings. Discuss.
I think nothing less than having similar comments as the top-rated for each story will convince them of that. Let us start here. Spread the word: Our dice overlords must hear of the nerdy wrath!
Upmod if you agree: Beta is shit. Keep it the way it is.
Demons come from another plain of existence. A parallel dimension of destruction, evil, and despair. While they are 'alien' to humanity, not so much in the classical sense of other worldly creatures that originate in our universe.
I think you've confused middle management with lovecraftian horror beasts. It's okay though, the differences are subtle. Middle management consists of risk-averse middle-aged people who wouldn't know a good idea if it fell on their left foot. Lovecraftian horror beasts, on the other hand, are intelligent hunting critters that know their head from their ass.