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The Search For the Mount Everest of Caves

NoMeansYes writes "An interview with James Tabor, author of the new best-selling book Blind Descent, introduces a pair of accomplished scientists — American Bill Stone and Ukranian geologist Alexander Klimchouk — who are the two most prominent figures in extreme caving. Both have figured prominently in the ongoing quest to discover the deepest cave on earth. Tabor describes what conditions are like inside supercaves like Cheve (-4,869 feet) and Krubera (-7,188 feet), before discussing Stone and his far-reaching technological innovations. These include the Posideon Discovery Rebreather and NASA's ENDURANCE. Extreme caving probably won't remain underground (so to speak) much longer, however. The article notes that James Cameron is planning to release a 3D film next year about extreme cave divers."

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  1. 3D by Cameron? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh not again!!

    1. Re:3D by Cameron? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Funny

      When my wife and daughter were out of town I watched Transformers 3 (or was it 2?) using the video projector she uses for her lectures and 5.1 system cobbled together from my stereo and the speakers and subwoofer from my home recording studio.. There were so many loud explosions it made by puppy pee on the carpet, which it hasn't done for six months.

      I may have spotted a little bit too, but that was because of Megan Fox's impressive mating display.

      The acting by the stars was brilliant, but the humans weren't nearly as good. Although Megan's heiny was acting up a storm. As a tuchus, it has remarkable expressive range.

      If any of you mention to my wife that I watched a Transformers, I'll have to kick your ass. Her opinion of my intellect is already low enough, thank you very much.

      I also watched The Sacrifice by Andrei Tarkovsky, and all things being equal, I liked the Transformers better, despite The Sacrifice's Palme d'Or at Cannes. What, you got a fuckin' problem with that? I don't care what you say, Tarkovsky should have used more explosions.

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    2. Re:3D by Cameron? by f3rret · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well someone could call 'spelunking' 'spelunkery'.

      Oh an according to that James Tabor dude, serious cavers hate the term 'spelunking'; personally I love it but ten again I rarely go diving into moist caves.

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    3. Re:3D by Cameron? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...to much pressure can result in a "dieseling" effect.

      Not to be confused with the Vin Dieseling effect, characterized as a downward pressure on movie quality due to actor selection -- "Pitch Black" not withstanding. :-)

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  2. I wonder if they'll find... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    any underground cities ruled by a matriarchal society of scantily clad spider-worshipers?

    1. Re:I wonder if they'll find... by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 4, Funny

      You'd think someone with a name like Lolth would have a sense of humor about it.

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  3. Cameron's Extreme Cave Divers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Features blue characters much like his last film Avatar, however in this case it's due to a lack of oxygen.

    1. Re:Cameron's Extreme Cave Divers by moderatorrater · · Score: 3, Funny

      Features blue characters much like his last film Avatar, however in this case it's due to a lack of oxygen

      Which they overcome by embracing the wisdom of the natives. In the end, the protagonist (a white man) will become better at caving than even the natives, thus showing us again that Cameron thinks white men are the best at everything they do.

    2. Re:Cameron's Extreme Cave Divers by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Funny

      Features blue characters much like his last film Avatar, however in this case it's due to a lack of oxygen.

      It might also be due to methemoglobinemia.

      I saw the Blue Man Group recently, and I wondered if they each applied their own makeup or if they blue each other.

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    3. Re:Cameron's Extreme Cave Divers by silentcoder · · Score: 2, Funny

      Four words:
      White men can't jump.

      (Unless you count contractions as double-words because then it's five words).

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  4. leaving mom's basement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is that involved for extreme caving ?

  5. Freud? by Oyjord · · Score: 3, Funny

    I wonder what Freud would say about such "extreme caving"?

    1. Re:Freud? by phantomcircuit · · Score: 3, Funny

      He'd do another line and tell you to get out of his bathroom.

  6. Finally a Cameron movie with depth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Looks like Hollywood acknowledges that their movies are too superficial.

  7. Re:More People Getting Stuck In Caves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "60 percent of cave deaths in Florida are related to cave diving."
    What are the other 40% related to? Cave skating, cave jumping, cave carpooling and cave sleepwalking?

  8. Re:There's a reason they call it extreme by OttoErotic · · Score: 3, Funny

    On top of that, if you manage to get that deep, you have to account for the trip back, meaning if you exceed your air supply by getting lost in dirty water, or any other number of potential gotchas, you could easily end up overstaying your welcome and just not have enough time to get back out again.

    That's what she said.

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  9. Yes by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 3, Funny

    The article notes that James Cameron is planning to release a 3D film next year about extreme cave divers.

    And the year after that will see "Cavatar"

    A man falls in love with a female from a tribe of green, subterranean lizard people, and helps her fight off the evil white American oppressors who want to drill her (wink wink) home for sub-crustal oil.

  10. Re:cameron has been obsessed with diving for awhil by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 3, Funny

    considering how cameron's diving hobbies inspire his creative works (look at titanic and the abyss), i welcome whatever comes out of the creative ferment of his mind from his interest in deep caves. perhaps the abyss ii? some sort of horror movie?

    Maybe he can go spelunking in a library, and learn how to make an original plot and put that "3D" concept to work with his character construction.

    galactic cave?

    o_O

  11. Re:There's a reason they call it extreme by grantek · · Score: 4, Funny

    They should just admit that the more popular term is "spelunking" (because it sounds cool to say), and go with that. They probably just don't want to cave in to that kind of influence...

  12. Re:Not until Scotty can beam me up by Raenex · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why do you put "accidents" in quotes? You make it sound like foul play is going on.

  13. Re:There's a reason they call it extreme by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh don't start... You'll dig yourself a hole, and find yourself in deeper than you wished.

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  14. Re:There's a reason they call it extreme by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't think turning up at a girl's front door in a re-breather and stating "I'm a real fan of caving" will sound anywhere near as funny to her as it does to him.

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  15. Re:yes, absolutely by rtfa-troll · · Score: 2, Funny

    No no; you don't get it. More small letters are used every day than big letters. They must be better. His post just sticks to the best all the time and ignores inferior "capital" letters. You and I are just misguided throwbacks.

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