Fring Calls Skype 'Cowards'; Skype Responds

An anonymous reader writes "It seems that Skype and Fring are not getting along so well today. First, Fring made a claim that Skype was blocking Fring and in a subsequent blog post, called Skype 'cowards': 'Now that Fring expanded capacity to support the huge demand for video calling for all users, Skype has blocked us from doing so. They are afraid of open mobile communication. Cowards.' Skype has responded, stating that Fring's misuse of Skype software was damaging their brand and reputation: 'There is no truth to Fring's claims that Skype has blocked it. Fring made the decision to remove Skype functionality on its own.'

Comments

Re:I tend choose Skype side in this one

[Anonymous Coward]

LOL owned!

Re:Skype, Make an ANDROID CLIENT!!

[TehDuffman]

the most capable OS out there?

Hmmm, uhhhh, I think not.

Hmmm, uhhhh, I think so.

Re:I tend choose Skype side in this one

[Anonymous Coward]

The previous posts are, strictly speaking, correct. However,

and I is often used informally in double objects. Examples:

Between you and I, I think his marriage is in trouble.

That's a matter for Peter and I.

I often think of the old days and how you helped Bertie and I. (letter from Queen Elizabeth, wife of the future King George VI, to King Edward VIII.)

These structures are often condemned as 'incorrect' but they have been part of educated speech for centuries.

Source: Practical English Usage, Michael Swan, Oxford University Press

So, Chrisq, please consider yourself an over-pedantic grammar Nazi, given that such a speech would almost certainly be informal.

Disclaimer: IAAET (I am an English Teacher)

Re:I tend choose Skype side in this one

[xouumalperxe]

And, for an example of where "You and I" is correct, refer to the Bard: "Thou and I are too wise to woo peaceably."

Re:I tend choose Skype side in this one

[Paradise Pete]

As they very well should, because in fact you are wrong.

I've no problem with people saying "you and I." I understand what they mean, and I agree that communication is what's important. I was simply answering his question. And it doesn't even bother me if someone thought the GP post begged it.

However, I don't agree with your assertion that "you and me" is wrong, and your example does not apply. It is about the definition of a word, not of grammar. Languages evolve, but syntax and grammar evolve *much* more slowly than definitions. I can think of dozens of words that have taken on new meanings during my lifetime, but I am hard-pressed to think of any significant changes in grammar. (admittedly, when I was once asked "where do you be?" I understood the question.)
English is perhaps the most flexible language in the world, and its grammar is the scaffolding that allows that flexibility. If the scaffolding weakens so does the language.

Re:I tend choose Skype side in this one

[shikaisi]

Wrong! Grammar exists to help describe the way English is used. It does not prescribe the way to speak. Mod grandparent up.

Re:I tend choose Skype side in this one

[neumayr]

You, sir, are suffering from delusions of relevance.
Windows and OSX are what people use on their workstations.

Re:Nothint to own in Fantasyland

[HelioWalton]

There is no goddess but goddess, and she is your goddess!

Re:I tend choose Skype side in this one

[AlamedaStone]

I from Jamaica, mon.

so then... "these seats are reserved for my wife and me and I"?

Re:I tend choose Skype side in this one

[Fishchip]

Ahh, where's a mod point when you need it? +1 funny.