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Your Feces Is a Wonderland of Viruses

sciencehabit writes "Thanks to an anlaysis of fecal samples from four sets of Missouri-born female identical twins and their mothers, researchers have concluded that human guts harbor viruses as unique as the people they inhabit; the viral lineup differs even between identical twins. Even more surprising? These viruses may be doing good work inside of us."

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  1. How wonderful! by electricprof · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't I feel special!

    1. Re:How wonderful! by FreonTrip · · Score: 3, Funny

      You are a beautiful and unique poo-flake. And so am I! POO BROTHERS!

  2. Your Feces is a Wonderland by Evro · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... I love that song.

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    1. Re:Your Feces is a Wonderland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      The song is corny.

  3. Evolution by dward90 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From my understanding of evolution, I think it would be more surprising if something we all have inside of us was doing something bad.

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    1. Re:Evolution by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Funny

      From my understanding of evolution, I think its surprising that we'd put the central waste facility right next to the playground and manufacturing plant.

    2. Re:Evolution by spun · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I just read a Scientific American article discussing how plants selectively hold on to certain viruses that benefit them. A researcher inoculated tomato plants with mycorrhiza from plants found growing near very hot springs in Yellowstone. Viruses in the mycorrhiza infected the tomatoes, granting them the ability to grow in temperatures up to 140F. Best of all, the plants passed the beneficial viruses on to their offspring in the seed coating.

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    3. Re:Evolution by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Funny

      From my understanding of evolution, I think its surprising that we'd put the central waste facility right next to the playground and manufacturing plant.

      Well, obviously, it's because the playground is so important that we need redundancy. Evolution has granted us a playground, and a backup playground right next to it.

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    4. Re:Evolution by mldi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, our rapid development into sterile societies has backfired because of how we're wired due to evolution. At least that's the theory. Our bodies were built to battle a few parasites, at least in our youth, and the theory is that because we are so sterile anymore, our bodies are looking for something to attack... and since in modern countries the majority of the population is parasite-free, they attack us instead. Behold: autoimmune diseases!

      It's actually probably pretty good for us to get at least a little down'n'dirty as kids so our bodies don't go crazy attacking perfectly normal things as unwanted foreign bodies.

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  4. Everything Comes Down To Poo by LoudMusic · · Score: 5, Funny

    One of the greatest episodes of any show ever.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRvk-CnXYhI

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  5. FecesBook by donstenk · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why did I think the post was related to FaceBook?

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  6. So what we are anyway? by sznupi · · Score: 4, Funny

    It was already established, IIRC, how the number of bacterial cells in our bodies is greater than "human" ones; now this. "Human" genetic material (what this is all about in the end) seems to be in a minority inside us - though with such viruses it might be much less clear, perhaps they are a much more integral part of us; could pass RNA between cells, for example.

    So...I, for one, welcome our viral overlords. I welcome us.

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    1. Re:So what we are anyway? by mdielmann · · Score: 4, Informative

      We comprise about 1% by weight of bacteria. Given the small size of bacteria cells, we have 10 times the bacterial cells to "human" cells. Here's where you can start reading.
      And then there's mitochondria, which look a lot more like foreign microbes within our own cells than just a structure built by our cell, complete with their own DNA.
      It is correct that much of those bacteria live in your gut, but apparently skin has its fair share, too. Nonetheless, those gut bacteria are also vital to the proper function of your body.

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  7. anlaysis ? by Mathinker · · Score: 5, Funny

    Geez, the Slashdot editors couldn't even spell "anal" when it was even on-topic.

  8. Re:I wonder... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll show myself out...

    Please Doodoo.

  9. Just be glad you're not an elephant by OrangeMonkey11 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Humans are born with all these bacteria built into the body and advances as we grew up; on the other hand young elephant have to eat their parents feces in order to gain these valuable bacteria to help them have an immune system and digest food.

    So aren't you glad you're not an elephant.

    1. Re:Just be glad you're not an elephant by PCM2 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, humans spend the nine months in utero in a completely bacteria-free environment. However, babies born vaginally pick up their first dose of bacteria immediately as they emerge from their mother's birth canal, and even babies born via Caeserian section are bacteria magnets. The natural birth babies generally get a big dose of lactobacillus, while C-section babies tend to pick up strains found on the skin and the general hospital environment. Or so they say. But the bacteria are hardly "built into the body," which is why identical twins will have different gut flora.

      Still, you may notice that TFA is about viruses, not bacteria.

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    2. Re:Just be glad you're not an elephant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I am an ICU nurse and was shocked the first time the doctor ordered a "fecal transplant." This is for someone who has been on so many antibiotics that they have depleted the bacteria in their gut. Feces is collected from family members, processed, and "transplanted" to the patient via a feeding tube. It is not common or palatable but effective.

    3. Re:Just be glad you're not an elephant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Humans are born with all these bacteria built into the body and advances as we grew up; on the other hand young elephant have to eat their parents feces in order to gain these valuable bacteria to help them have an immune system and digest food.

      So aren't you glad you're not an elephant.

      As a microbiologist in studying the gut microbiota, I can tell you that this is 100% wrong, no-one is born with bacteria built into them, in fact gnotobiotic animals, ones completely free of all bacteria and viruses are (somewhat easily) made by C-section in a sterile environment for the purposes of gut and nutrition research all the time. These animals are difficult to maintain, however, because they essentially must live like the "boy in the bubble" all their food and water, as well as all the tools used for their examination must be sterilized ( food is typically irradiated up to 5 times to make sure all the stuff in it is dead) to keep them from being contaminated, and facilities that maintain these animals must be built specifically for this task - which is not exactly cheap. *** As an aside, please keep in mind that even ignoring the subject of virii transferring DNA within the bacterial soup, some scientists estimate that to date we have sequenced and discovered less than 1% of all the bacterial species in the human gut even with massive throughput technologies like pyrosequencing. *** Also keep in mind that at the moment, we (scientists) still have not come to a consensus about what a unique bacterial (or viral, if they are even alive) species is! In other words, while nicely defined terms work for the rest of the living stuff on this planet, ( if you can produce viable offspring with another organism, then you are the same species) this does not apply to bacteria or viruses because they reproduce asexually. All we have to go on as far as classification is the DNA sequences of all these microorganisms, and how similar those sequences are to others - so where does one draw the line and say "this is a new species" ? At >3% difference? at >1% , or something else? People can't agree on this because what ends up happening is you end up finding two bacteria that are 99% identical but behave completely differently, while another pair of two supposedly different species are functionally/metabolically indistinguishable. *** Oh and to shed some light on the deal with identical twins: basically everyone is right, diet, location, lifestyle (smoking/ drinking vs. not, working in a sewer, etc.) AND host genetics all play important roles in what bacteria end up permanently colonizing a persons intestine. To elaborate, two identical twins separated at birth, eating different things will still be more similar to each other than would a pair of two complete strangers. If these twins lived in the same house and had similar diets, they would be even MORE similar than if they were separated, but never identical. At the same time, a pair of complete strangers living in the same house and eating the same things would be more similar than if they lived separately and had different diets. **** Fun fact: twins also have different fingerprints

    4. Re:Just be glad you're not an elephant by instagib · · Score: 3, Informative

      I couldn't believe this, but it's true. Mod parent up more.

  10. But I thought girls didn't poop by stevegee58 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now my illusion is shattered. *sniff*

  11. Lack of control groups in study by Tisha_AH · · Score: 3, Informative

    The article mentions the identical twins but it does not indicate if they are adult, identical twins living in different places, with different environmental conditions. If you took two 25 year old identical twins and raised one in Florida and the other in Seattle for five years you would definitely find different flora in the gut.

    Now if these identical twins were still children, raised in the same environment, then that would indeed be interesting.

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  12. Obviously a bogus test... by fuo · · Score: 3, Funny

    fecal samples from four sets of Missouri-born female identical twins and their mothers

    Impossible. It's common knowledge that girls don't pewp.

  13. Re:Yea, and? by msauve · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, they're discussing viruses and bacteria. Nowhere do they use the incorrect term "virii" in a failed attempt to look intelligent.

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  14. Can you imagine by SnarfQuest · · Score: 5, Funny

    What fun the children of these scientists must have.

    What does your daddy do? He plays with shit.

    What did you do on your "take your son to work" day? We got people to poop for us.

    What did you bring for show and tell? Here's some poop in the shape of Obama.

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  15. Researchers by kpainter · · Score: 3, Funny

    Man, talk about a shit job! Also, why is it particularly relevant that the subjects were born in Missouri? Just to make Mississippi jealous?

  16. Best... by N0Man74 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Best Pickup Line... Ever!