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UK Royalty Group Wants ISPs To Pay For Pirating Customers

Idbar writes "A group representing British songwriters and composers will on Wednesday call for the introduction of a levy on broadband providers based on the amount of pirated music they allow to pass through their networks. Will Page, chief economist at PRS for Music, will argue at a Westminster conference that a piracy fee would better align the financial interests of internet service providers with rights holders at a time when the two industries are at odds over who should bear the costs of online song swapping."

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  1. Rights Holder by jaminJay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Silly me, thinking that it should be up to the rights holder to protect their rights.

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    1. Re:Rights Holder by zebslash · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A federal offense ? In the UK ? That's new for me.

    2. Re:Rights Holder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, it's like charging road builders for speeding tickets the police failed to collect. The end result would be roads of such quality, that you can barely drive on them, let alone speed.

  2. well great .. no really... by powerspike · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Great,
    If i'm going to paying a mothly fee for pirated music, i'll be sure to download my allocation's worth every month, after i've then paid for it then haven't i?

    1. Re:well great .. no really... by thijsh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm currently paying for music in the following ways (probably more):
      - Legally downloaded music
      - Donations to great internet radio
      - Last.FM all- you-can-eat subscription
      - Concert and festival tickets
      - Monthly fees for radio (comes with cable)
      - Tax on my blank CDs and MP3 player
      - And newest proposal: tax the internet

      There are countless ways they want our money for music made by others... But somehow I am still a criminal who owns them a gazillion for downloading some music??? When will this madness end?

  3. Re:No further prosecution? by davester666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really? Only slightly more expensive?

    Think more along the lines of, well, each file going through any file sharing method, probably includes at least one song, so that'll be a US dollar [or like amount]. Now multiply the number of files flowing through the ISP to all it's subscribers each month times $1 = monthly levy.

    This number is unlikely to be acceptable to the ISP's subscribers.

    A smaller number, like say, $10 or $15/month/subscriber [roughly what subscription music services charge] is a no-go, because that is for renting the music for a month. File downloads don't expire, so it's only fair that they are charged as purchases instead.

    Of course, no need to track which specific songs are downloaded, or even if the file is a music file [or contains music], as ALL the money stops at the labels, rather than say, even paying the couple percent royalties to artists for the music.

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  4. Right. That's going to work well. Sure. by Mathinker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > ISPs that have knowledge

    They can't have knowledge of infringement because only the rightsholder knows what licenses he has given. The ISP doesn't know that. Oh, and real infringement can only be decided in a court of law because of those pesky exceptions like fair use/dealing.

    > or notice of infringement

    Great, so we're in the DMCA-mode, where it's trivially easy to game the system because there is no real penalty for delivering a mistaken notice of infringement?

  5. They mean, a group representing big business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work with digital sales accounts.

    Every time you download a track from Itunes most of your money goes to, the government as tax (in the UK), the retailer (Itunes in this case), the distributor, and the label. The artist gets maybe 5% of what you pay.

    Unbelievable but that's how it is.

    Don't let these liars and crooks fool you into thinking otherwise.