Talk On Chinese Cyber Army Pulled From Black Hat

Trailrunner7 writes "A talk on China's state-sponsored offensive security efforts scheduled for the Black Hat conference in Las Vegas later this month has been pulled after concerns were raised by people within the Chinese and Taiwanese government about the talk's content. The presentation was to be delivered by Wayne Huang, CTO of Armorize, an application security company with R&D operations in Taiwan. The talk was billed as an in-depth, historical look at the offensive capabilities and operations of China's so-called cyber-army."

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China’s Cyber Threat Growing

[Anonymous Coward]

China is directing the single largest, most intensive foreign intelligence gathering effort since the Cold War against the United States.... http://www.securityweek.com/chinas-cyber-threat-growing

Re:China’s Cyber Threat Growing

[SquarePixel]

China is directing the single largest, most intensive foreign intelligence gathering effort since the Cold War against the United States....

http://www.securityweek.com/chinas-cyber-threat-growing

Or could it be that US is using this as an excuse to take even more control over the Internet?

This is nothing new. I remember reading about such things in the 90's. US is good with propaganda, including entertainment and everything. Just see cold war.

Re:China’s Cyber Threat Growing

[ground.zero.612]

China is directing the single largest, most intensive foreign intelligence gathering effort since the Cold War against the United States....

http://www.securityweek.com/chinas-cyber-threat-growing

Or could it be that US is using this as an excuse to take even more control over the Internet?

This is nothing new. I remember reading about such things in the 90's. US is good with propaganda, including entertainment and everything. Just see cold war.

Or could it be that the world really isn't actually filled with hippies like you that think "free love" magically solves all of our problems, and is some kind of fairy dust that you just sprinkle on oppressive totalitarians to infect them with patchouli stink fantasy?

The problem with ultra liberals like yourself is that you seem to think everyone wants to be your friend. The reality is that they don't. Many of them just want to steal/copy your success, or learn how to prevent you from obtaining it.

It would be really nice if China shut down the US internet grid. Even if it was just for a few minutes. I say it would be nice, because I am always amused by the rhetoric spewed by the defender of my enemies.

Yes, let's call a spade a spade. China, one of the worst human rights violators on Earth, if not the worst, is our enemy. Just because we trade with them does not make them our friend, nor our frienemy.

Re:China’s Cyber Threat Growing

[Mister Whirly]

Actually, far from the enemy, China is the chief lender of money that keeps the US afloat. China is so tied to us economically the threat of them becoming our "enemy" is laughable. If they truly wanted to beat the US, all they would need to do is stop loaning the US money and cash in all of their debts to the US. But seeing they own a huge chunk of the US already, it is in their best economic interests to make sure the US is doing okay.

And lighten up Francis - pointing out that the US is good at propaganda (duh) does not make one a "hippie". Do you really think the US isn't good a propaganda, or do you have a quota of people you need to call "hippies" every day? Or do you just think anyone to the left of Glenn Beck is an "ultra-liberal"?

Re:China’s Cyber Threat Growing

[maxume]

China is buying U.S. debt so that U.S. consumption can fuel their economic growth, placating the populace.

Deeper analysis than that is delusional. If China tries too hard to call in their trillion dollar marker, it won't be worth a trillion dollars anymore, so it really isn't as big a risk as you paint.

Re:China’s Cyber Threat Growing

[maxume]

I was alluding to the fact that it is mostly treasuries when I said it wouldn't be worth a trillion dollars anymore; they can certainly choose to start selling the treasuries on the open market, but if they do it hard and fast, they will obliterate the value in the process.

Why post the schedules ahead of time?

[mbourgon]

Just wondering why people put up notices of these types of seminars days or weeks before the conference. Put out information a few hours ahead of time. I don't know how many concurrent seminars there are, but maybe there could be a "you really want to sit in on this" track? It just seems like a lot of these get shot down in advance for no good reason.

Re:Why post the schedules ahead of time?

[Lord Ender]

They want to sell tickets (which cost $2,000). It's hard to sell a $2,000 ticket to an event when you can't even tell people what that ticket will buy them.

Oh, Please!

[RobotRunAmok]

I thought Black Hat was one of those "we don't care who you are, we're going to talk about this" forums?

Those types of organizations don't have annual conferences in Las Vegas.

"Black Hat!" I mean, really. Who would you expect to show up at a Las Vegas venue called the "Super-Villain Expo," Lex Luthor, or wannabes in purple-spandex cosplay?

Seems like the talk evolved into a demonstartion

[zill]

Offensive capability #3: Censoring free speech in foreign nations.

The Politburo must be pleased by this successful demonstration.

Re:they did WHAT?

[autocracy]

Try DEFCON. DEFCON talks have been cancelled in the past by court orders against the speakers, but I'm not aware of DEFCON ever dropping a talk due to pressure.

Also: lower cost, much of the same material, more material above that, and beer.

Re:they did WHAT?

[Hatta]

I don't understand why they announce these things in advance at all. If no one knows what you're going to present, they can't stop you from presenting. Attendees can be assured that even if they don't know what's going to be discussed, it's going to be good.