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Matt Smith Leaving Doctor Who Already?

bowman9991 sent in a disappointing rumor saying "Ironically Matt Smith, the youngest Doctor Who ever, apparently wants to retire early. An unconfirmed report suggests Smith would like to try his hand at Hollywood films after the end of his second season as the Doctor. Smith is currently filming this year's Doctor Who Christmas special with Karen Gillan, who plays his companion Amy Pond, and opera star Katherine Jenkins. After the Christmas special he goes straight into production on a new Doctor Who series set to air next year." I've tremendously enjoyed the Smith/Gillan combo, personally.

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  1. Time to add a little crazy into that character by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hear Mel Gibson is available.

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    1. Re:Time to add a little crazy into that character by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Funny

      I hear Mel Gibson is available.

      Not sure they're looking to replace the Daleks.

    2. Re:Time to add a little crazy into that character by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He'd make a amazing Davros.

    3. Re:Time to add a little crazy into that character by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 5, Informative

      It doesn't matter anyway. Slashdot was in such a hurry to get a headline people would react to, they didn't do their fact checking. He's not leaving:

      http://www.digitalspy.com/cult/s7/doctor-who/news/a246624/gillan-matt-smith-isnt-leaving-who.html

    4. Re:Time to add a little crazy into that character by h4rm0ny · · Score: 5, Funny


      Yeah, but the Daleks already hate everybody. The only way you could make them anti-semitic would be to make them nicer to everyone else.

      "BE-FORE WE EXTERMINATE YOU ALL, EVERY-ONE WILL GET A CUP OF TEAAA. EXCEPT FOR MIS-TERRR GOLDSTEIN! GOLDSTEIN GETS NO TEAA!"

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  2. Christmas special? by jeffmeden · · Score: 4, Funny

    I remember the last time a sci-fi franchise I enjoyed made a Christmas Special...

    *barfs*

    Farewell, Matt Smith!

    1. Re:Christmas special? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Doctor Who has had Christmas special every year since it came back

    2. Re:Christmas special? by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      That wasn't Christmas, it was Wookie Life Day--a day when we celebrate horrid musical performances and godawful comedy bits.

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    3. Re:Christmas special? by Aliotroph · · Score: 2, Informative

      William Hartnell had one: Episode 7 of "The Daleks' Master Plan" in 1965. It was a farcical addition to a way-too-long serial.

    4. Re:Christmas special? by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Doctor Who isn't sci-fi. It's a sci-fantasy show for children.

      You're looking for the Sarah Jane Adventures. Doctor Who is more sci-comedy, at least some of the episodes like "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances" or "The Time of Angels"/"Flesh and Stone" are far too dark for a children's show. But it has a lot more in common with 3rd Rock from the Sun which is a sitcom with aliens than it has to do with hard science fiction. The "rules" of travelling in space and time and between universes have been set and broken so many times over by now they can just make anything up. But the only ones who can't get a good laugh out of it are sci-fi snobs who calls everything else children's shows.

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    5. Re:Christmas special? by h4rm0ny · · Score: 5, Interesting

      at least some of the episodes like "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances" or "The Time of Angels"/"Flesh and Stone" are far too dark for a children's show.

      Bah! Maybe American children. Hiding behind the sofa from the Doctor Who aliens is a right of passage for British children. Did you see the "Pandorica Opens" episode, where the severed cyberman helment pops open and the desicated skull pops out? The general reaction over here was: "my seven year old ran out of the room in fear - good episode!"

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    6. Re:Christmas special? by Tetsujin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Doctor Who isn't sci-fi. It's a sci-fantasy show for children.

      Whatever the fuck it is, I like it.

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    7. Re:Christmas special? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So many Xmas specials that they couldn't help going meta about it. David Tennant Dr. Who shows up in London on Xmas, and there's almost no one in the streets. When he manages to locate someone and asks why, the guy says there's been so many batshit crazy things happening on Xmas lately people have decided to spend it at home with the doors locked, better safe than sorry.

    8. Re:Christmas special? by nine-times · · Score: 4, Informative

      Doctor who always has Christmas specials... or at least for the past several years. You just might not have realized it if you're in the US, because they tend to get played as season premieres. If you remember...

      • "The Christmas Invasion" - First David Tennant episode, aliens invade on Christmas
      • "The Runaway Bride" - Introduction to Donna Noble
      • "Voyage of the Damned" - Spaceship Titanic, Kylie Minogue appears
      • "The Next Doctor" - The Doctor runs into what appears to be a future version of himself, fights the Cybermen in the past
      • "The End of Time" - Last David Tennant episode

      All of these were Christmas specials. Many of them explicitly took place on Christmas, though I don't remember if they all do.

    9. Re:Christmas special? by asdf7890 · · Score: 4, Funny

      at least some of the episodes like "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances" or "The Time of Angels"/"Flesh and Stone" are far too dark for a children's show.

      Bah! Maybe American children. Hiding behind the sofa from the Doctor Who aliens is a right of passage for British children. Did you see the "Pandorica Opens" episode, where the severed cyberman helment pops open and the desicated skull pops out? The general reaction over here was: "my seven year old ran out of the room in fear - good episode!"

      A great example of this is Blink, the episode that introduced the weeping angles. My brother runs a gift shop (one of the Past Times chain) and at the time they were stocking some faux-porcelain statues that out of the corner of your eye did not look at all dissimilar. Kids would blunder in along with their parents, see these, go silent, and not take their eyes off them until they'd left the shop. Brilliant.

    10. Re:Christmas special? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What the hell is wrong with British people? It's just a TV show.

    11. Re:Christmas special? by hesiod · · Score: 2, Funny

      Runaway Bride (worst monster in Who by far)

      I didn't like Donna Noble either, but "monster" may be a bit harsh.

    12. Re:Christmas special? by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Steven Moffat is a great writer.

      I am an adult, atheist skeptic and I'm largely unphased by spooks, ghouls, ghosts, and other nonsense. *I* was hiding behind the fucking couch. He found that little fear of creepy shit button in my brain and kept pressing it.

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  3. Why do the best ones always leave early? by deep9x · · Score: 2

    I did enjoy Tennant, but Eccleston and Smith are on a whole different level for me. To be fair, Smith has the benefits of a better showrunner.

    1. Re:Why do the best ones always leave early? by Zeros · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I feel Tennant was a god among the doctors, this kid is second.

    2. Re:Why do the best ones always leave early? by dancingmilk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe after doing it for awhile they have realized its not the dream they thought it was. Not an uncommon occurrence in the world.

    3. Re:Why do the best ones always leave early? by camperdave · · Score: 4, Funny

      "What do you mean the TARDIS isn't real?"
      "Matt... It's a set, just like everything else"
      "Well, if I can't have a real TARDIS, I'm leaving. And I'm taking the sonic screwdriver with me."
      "The sonic screwdriver? But that's just a... Oh! Nevermind."

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    4. Re:Why do the best ones always leave early? by Kierthos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They don't want to be typecast. That's probably the simplest reason.

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    5. Re:Why do the best ones always leave early? by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Smith might be the most likable of the lot.

      This is my biggest reservation about Smith, and the reason that I think the jury is still out on his Doctor.

      David Tennant had a remarkable ability to flip personality in a heartbeat. One second, he's the happy, adventurous Doctor. Next, he's the awesomely powerful Time Lord with the weight of the whole universe resting on his shoulders. Next, he's somehow the saddest character in the universe, profoundly alone even when surrounded by life. Sometimes, the character traits showed up in a big storyline with a tragic fate for one of his companions, but more telling were the simple acts scattered throughout the series. Compare the eleventh Doctor (Smith) in the big speech at the end of his first episode with just a typical tenth Doctor (Tennant) moment in mid-series:

      Doctor #11: Okay, one more, just one. Is this world protected? Because you're not the first one to attack it. Oh, there have been so many. And what you've got to ask is, what happened to them? [Cue montage.] Hello! I'm the Doctor. Basically, run.

      Doctor #10: Don't play games with me. You just killed someone I like, and that is not a safe place to stand. I'm the Doctor, and you're in the biggest library in the universe. Look me up.

      Somehow, for all the build-up in the first scene, the second one was far more powerful. Whether that was due to the actors, the writing, the direction or something else, I'm not sure.

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    6. Re:Why do the best ones always leave early? by gfreeman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Shatner managed it with Denny Crane.

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    7. Re:Why do the best ones always leave early? by cgenman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The writing Tennant had to work with was also much sharper. Comparing the two lines above. Tennant had 4 sentences to work with. Matt had make it work in 8. Tennant's lines implied so much. Matt had to physically say everything, and even has a redundancy to get around. In short, Tennant was working with better material, while Matt's writers are just getting a sense for the new feel of the updated series.

      As another comparison, Tennant had a climactic battle against the nightmare scenario of Daleks and Cybermen converging on the earth. Matt's single season finale is framed by Daleks, Cyberzombies, Atraxi, Silurian, Jadoons, and bunches of other alien races that just serve to dilute, rather than reinforce, the strength of the episode. In Tennant's episode, you really see the interplay between the two nightmare species. In Matt's, the wad of aliens are just serving as a big nebulous blob of boogymen.

      I had some hesitation about Matt as a doctor, but I really feel like he has found the character's groove, insomuch as the writing will allow. But the writing has been thick and kludgy, better suited to The Sarah Jane Adventures than Doctor Who.

  4. It will be surprisingly okay by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the revived series, each time the actor playing the Doctor has changed, I expected that the new one couldn't be as great as the one retiring. But I've been pleasantly surprised each time.

    So while I'm sad to see the current one go, I'm meta-okay with it.

    1. Re:It will be surprisingly okay by raddan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Huh, well, I've been in mourning since the Tom Baker era. He was uniquely quirky. The Doctor who followed him was terrible.

      That said, I haven't really given any of the more modern Doctors a fair shake, so they may be great. I watched one episode that featured an angry Tennant basically just running from zombies. Kind of boring. I should probably watch from the beginning.

  5. PLEASE!!!! by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Bring back Tom Baker!

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  6. Multi-year contracts by CommieLib · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For the love of God, can you lock these actors into three year contracts, please? Tennant did right by the role, but Eccleston and Smith have burned up their regenerations wastefully...

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  7. Re:Thank god by Sancho · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's all the writing. I don't particularly care for Matt Smith, but I think that's my problem--having an unholy love for the previous Doctor. But for me, it's pretty hard to get past all of the continuity they've been screwing with, and even when they aren't doing that, the writing is just bad.

  8. Re:The Sun eh... by Two9A · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Telegraph reports Karen Gillan as specifically denying that Smith's going anywhere, so this is just a spurious attempt by the Sun to generate "news".

    Here's hoping Smith stays on for at least 3 years, and we get some more multi-season arcs going.

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  9. Karen Gillan says Matt is staying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Doctor Who star Matt Smith is staying put, says Karen Gillan
    Karen Gillan, who plays Doctor Who's assistant, says Matt Smith isn't going to Los Angeles
    Karen Gillan, who plays Amy Pond, the assistant to Matt Smith's Doctor Who, has reassuring news for his fans. The actor isn't about to decamp to Los Angeles.

    "Matt will be sticking around," she told me at the Veuve Clicquot Gold Cup Final at Cowdray Park Polo Club yesterday. "I think those rumours were made up."

    Karen, left, added that she and Smith have started filming the Doctor Who Christmas special, and adds that the atmosphere on the set is "great."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/7897262/Doctor-Who-star-Matt-Smith-is-staying-put-says-Karen-Gillan.html

  10. But Wait! by RivenAleem · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does this mean there'll be no Fez? Fez + Bow-tie combo was going to be so badass

  11. Or... by Spad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Shitty tabloid with history of claiming every Doctor Who star is quitting at the end of the next season claims current Doctor Who star is quitting at the end of the next season.

    1. Re:Or... by jnaujok · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, they've managed to get it right 10 times in 32 years of shows...

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  12. I disagree by Picass0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You're is a small minority if you're a Who fan and not enjoying the new series. The new show has made efforts to honor the older shows and maintain a reasonable continuity. The storytelling has been solid, a good run of actors... I'm a fan of the older shows too but I don't see any reason to dislike the newer episodes.

    And I hope they can keep Smith on for 3 or 4 seasons. That's the average run for most of the Doctors.

    They're going to need to write around that 13th regeneration limit before long...

  13. It's a salary negotiation ploy by Dzimas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Matt Smith's contract gives him a salary of only £200,000 per year - far lower than the estimated £1,000,000 earned by Tennant. He just happened to sign on at exactly the wrong time - the global economic crisis was in full swing, and the BBC (as a public broadcaster) had come under attack for its seemingly extravagant on-air talent salaries. If he can raise his profile enough over the next couple of years to attract serious attention from Hollywood, he can easily earn more than £200,000 from a single film. Let's hope that a reasonable compromise can be met before the second season is up, because the revolving door of doctors is getting tiring.

    1. Re:It's a salary negotiation ploy by Kagato · · Score: 2, Informative

      Tennant had a much longer history as a leading actor. The salary was inline with his stature in the acting community. Smith is younger and didn't have the same chops. He simply couldn't command as much as Tennant.

      As far as Hollywood? No way. He's too goofy looking for the shallow producers he'd have to deal with.

  14. It's time for a non-white Doctor by lseltzer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Of course the Doctor will remain a British alien, but there's no reason he has to be white. How about a Indian? Are there any such actors who would do well in this role?

  15. Who, M.D. by raguirre · · Score: 4, Funny

    If this rumour happens to be true, I think it's a good time to nominate Hugh Laurie for the next doctor...

    1. Re:Who, M.D. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      If this rumour happens to be true, I think it's a good time to nominate Hugh Laurie for the next doctor...

      I'm not sure if he'd be able to pull off a British accent though.

  16. Chiwetel Ejiofor... by Picass0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... was rumored to be on the short list of candidates to follow Tennant. Ejiofor was great in Serenity and Children of Men. He would have been a really great Doctor.

  17. i love the current doctor by mldi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In my opinion, he's the best the show has seen. That's a shame that he feels it's beneath him to stay beyond 2 seasons.

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  18. Do you actually watch the show? Not a reboot. by Picass0 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Davies made some reboot comments prior to the first season but he was selling it to new viewers at the time. As the show has had four more seasons there have been numerous bridges built to recognize the older shows, including actually showing all of the other TV Who actors in flashback (including Paul McGann). There have been references to older adventures, characters from the older shows (Sarah Jane and K-9, hello?). What the show was sold as initially and what it has become are two different things. The story very clearly is telling the further adventures of the Doctor, not a do-over.

  19. Patterson Joseph by oneiros27 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't think I've seen him in anything recently, but his role as the Marquis De Carabas in Neverwhere shows he could pull off an eccentric character ... even if that was 14 years ago.

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  20. Re:Thank god by h4rm0ny · · Score: 2, Interesting


    This series very blatantly sets out to get away from that. Even from the very first episode where he has to save the Earth without any of his usual toys - or in his own words: "No TARDIS. No Sonic Screwdriver. Two minutes to spare!". And then at other points in the series, it's re-emphasised. E.g. the line in 'Vincent and the Doctor': "That does it! From now on, I'm only using this thing to screw in screws". The device has mainly just been used in this series as a short-hand for things. Similar goes for all the maudln Rose/Martha/Kylie pining love story stuff. If you haven't seen the episode in question yet, I'll avoid saying what happens, but we get a very clear (and funny) distancing from romantic entanglements with the new Doctor. And the one character that may or may not be a romantic entanglement (Doctor River Song), we have only deep suspicions as to what might happen between her and the Doctor. Originally, we assumed she was the Doctor's wife. Now... maybe yes, maybe something more sinister. We've been promised some answers next series, but it's definitely a deliberate stepping away from all the "Roooooose!" unstated love stuff.

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  21. Rowan Atkinson makes a great Doctor! by ameline · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Have a watch of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do-wDPoC6GM

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  22. Re:Think of all the hints River had dropped by easterberry · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well she said the same about Tennant. I think it's more a reference to her knowing the doctor from like... decades/centuries into his future.

  23. Tennant is a great stage actor by igb · · Score: 2, Informative
    Precisely. Tennant had done significant work with multiple TV production companies prior to Who, whereas Smith had done a couple of minor things. Tennant would have been been a reasonable casting for the RSC Hamlet even without the Doctor Who role. After all, he'd done multiple, successful seasons at Stratford (Lysander, Romeo, Touchstone: significant, career-building roles). To do Touchstone in the RST at 25 means you're pretty hot stuff (Patrick Stewart was 28 when he did the same thing: it worked out OK for him, too), and if you follow it with a well-received Romeo at 30 you'll be in any RSC director's list of people to call for Hamlet in your late thirties. Decent stabs at Touchstone and Romeo mean you can speak the verse. And his Hamlet proved that he has fantastic speaking skills: he looked top class next to Stewart and Pennie Downie, who are amongst the greats.

    Tennant may not be the greatest British Shakespearian actor of his generation --- Jonathan Slinger probably gets that nod at the moment, after his Richards in 2007/8 --- but he's very, very good and his Hamlet sits alongside Branagh's as one of the best in recent years. Who knows what Tennant will be like in his late sixties, as Patrick Stewart was for his recent Anthony, Prospero, Macbeth and Claudius (with a side-order of Vladimir in Godot) --- I saw all of those bar the Anthony, and he was superb --- but at the moment in his forties the RSC would kill to have Tennant on hand to do Henry V or Richard II. And in ten years' time he's going to be the defining Prospero of the 2020s. The BBC got a bargain for his Who, as he's the first serious actor to take the part.

    By the way, another Who name to watch: Sam Troughton, son of David, grandson of Patrick. Stunning Romeo this year.

  24. Weak points in an otherwise decent season. by Picass0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Matt Smith has been very good, and if they could get Tom Baker back for a story nobody would be happier than me. Baker's not likely to return to the show full time but a story or two would kick ass. He's aged a lot since Logopolis, so they'd need to explain that. Baker suggested a few years ago he'd be interested in playing the Master, and that would be extremely cool.

    >>"The magical way they brought back The Master for the end of season 4 was just stupid."

    I watched "End of Time" 1 and 2 in one sitting, so I was a lot happier with it than other people. the way the brought back the Master was goofy, but hardly the worst plot device in Who history. The scene where the Doctor asks the Master to travel the universe with him was great, there was a moment where the Master actually considered it. But mostly John Simm is awesome so any chance for him to return to the show...

    >>"At least with a form of history reset they can ignore a lot of previous shows"

    They gave themselves a big broom to sweep up mistakes with the time crack last season. I doubt they'd completely reset the Who universe, Mofit is such a fan of the older show.

    >>"Its getting too melodramatic and mushy on these story ark endings as well"

    Hey, my wife cried at the end of "Vincent". Some of the shows cater to the female Who fans.

    >>"...WW2 planes in space... the UK on an endangered space whale ..."

      I was more sorry to see them scrap the cool Dalek props they've used for the last four years for the iPod version.

    >>"...it would be nice if the UK was not the center of the universe"

    But that's part of Doctor Who! They're doing new Torchwood episodes and filming much if not all of the season here in the US, and and they did the '96 Who movie here in the US. It doesn't feel right. That's why you can't have a yank play the Doctor, even Johnny Depp. Doctor Who is uniquely British and should always be that way.