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Massive EU Program To Study Three-legged Dogs

Posted by samzenpus on from the all-I-really-need-to-know-I-learned-from-a-three-legged-dog dept.

DMandPenfold writes "A multi-billion dollar European Union IT research fund will help study the behavior of three-legged dogs, it has been revealed. The fund will support extensive studies into how three-legged dogs move. There is a particular focus on how the dogs balance and function, given their missing limb."

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  1. I well wo... by alexborges · · Score: 1

    HUH?

    Really? Billions of dollars in three legged dogs ey?

    What in the world are they thinking about? I know I know, three legged dawgs.

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    1. Re:I well wo... by magarity · · Score: 1

      Billions of dollars in three legged dogs
       
      While this sounds excessive, it's only truly crazy to consider that after they convert euros to dollars to start the program they just have to convert them back to spend on the local expenses. Think how many more three legged dogs could benefit if only the researchers hadn't pissed away a good 20% in paying the exchange fees twice.

    2. Re:I well wo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, not billion dollars for 3-legged dogs. They are funded by a fund that hands out a billion dollars in research funds to thousands of projects. So dogs will only get a tiny fraction of it.

    3. Re:I well wo... by davester666 · · Score: 1

      The dogs will get none of it. If they're lucky, they'll get a couple of meals every day, in exchange for running with sensors attached all over their body, under bright lights, for 18 hours a day...

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  2. They hop? by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 1

    Much more interesting are the few two legged dogs that manage to get around.

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    1. Re:They hop? by TheLink · · Score: 1

      > the few two legged dogs that manage to get around.

      You don't need to focus on the rather few two legged dogs.

      There are four legged dogs then get around fine on two legs too:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MUhb00kiXs

      Many other examples... So the sample size can be bigger.

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  3. Did they hear about the three legged dog... by boristdog · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did they hear about the three legged dog that walked into a saloon?

    The barkeep asked him what he wanted.

    He said: "I'm lookin' for the man that shot my paw!"

    1. Re:Did they hear about the three legged dog... by TheLink · · Score: 1

      > Did they hear about the three legged dog that walked into a saloon?

      Walking into saloons[1] are a common way for dogs to become three legged.

      [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saloon_(automobile)

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  4. It's for locomotion research by jfoobaz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Towards the bottom of the article, it mentions that the purpose of the study is "... to develop advanced robots that can help animals and even humans cope with function after the loss of a limb."

    The headline and summary make it sound like utterly frivolous bullshit, when it's actually important research into motion and balance techniques in living creatures that can be applied to robotics.

    Typical Slashdot.

    1. Re:It's for locomotion research by starfishsystems · · Score: 3, Interesting

      From the perspective of cognition this is very interesting stuff, in fact. As everyone knows, four-legged animals make use of multiple gaits: walking and cantering for example. These gaits are dynamic, and there is no such thing as an intermediate gait. Halfway between walking and cantering is called falling down. So an animal has to know how to accomplish a shift between gaits in mid-stride.

      So there's already lots going on cognitively here, just with ordinary gaits. Now imagine that misfortune has struck and there is one less limb. What happens, not just kinematically but cognitively? Is the pattern for a preexisting gait reconfigured, or is there some degree of latent capability that wakes up?

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    2. Re:It's for locomotion research by mibe · · Score: 1

      They're making the tripods from War of the Worlds. Large Hadron Collider is obviously to produce an energy source to power them. Look out for heat-ray research on the horizon.

    3. Re:It's for locomotion research by jfoobaz · · Score: 1

      Look out for heat-ray research on the horizon.

      Behind the times much? http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/07/17/1152222

    4. Re:It's for locomotion research by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Yes. My guess is that the "billions" is actually the funding for the organisation that has many projects, including one on damage compensating AI walking robots, which has a task involving looking at how animals cmpensate for lost limbs.

    5. Re:It's for locomotion research by MozeeToby · · Score: 1

      Towards the bottom of the article...

      I think you mean typical media, not just typical slashdot. This is what the study is about, it should be inside the first paragraph, the methods the study uses (3-legged dogs) are much less important to the overall understanding of the subject and should be farther down. But then, that wouldn't make a sensationalist headline, so why would they want to do that.

    6. Re:It's for locomotion research by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Normally I'm all for studies that don't have any obvious near term benefit, but this is ridiculous. It's not a particularly useful set of studies to be making for the purposes of robotics, as a robot is going to be designed so as to not have that extra moment of inertia that 3 legged animals have to cope with. If you really want interesting useful stuff, the formerly quadrupeds that are now bipedal in nature are much more interesting in that respect.

      As for making robotic prosthesises, perhaps at some point we need to just admit that it's just an animal and provided that it wasn't done intentionally that the best thing might just be to put the damned thing to sleep. I've seen 3 legged dogs, and they really don't strike me as terribly happy. Giving it a robotic leg is just plane silly.

    7. Re:It's for locomotion research by Flea+of+Pain · · Score: 4, Funny

      Giving it a robotic leg is just plane silly.

      Which, for those of you not in the know, is less than car silly, but more than boat silly. Still, I think that method of comparing silly levels is plain silly.

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    8. Re:It's for locomotion research by pspahn · · Score: 1

      Maybe they're just suffering from phantom limb syndrome and all they need is a mirror box.

      If you were to lose a limb, would you be so unhappy that it would just be time for "sleep"?

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    9. Re:It's for locomotion research by steelfood · · Score: 1

      The headline and summary make it sound like utterly frivolous bullshit, when it's actually important research into motion and balance techniques in living creatures that can be applied to robotics.

      And to add insult to injury, it's on Idle. I think /. needs roles for their editors, i.e. Science Editor, Civil Rights Editor, Gaming Editor, Book Review Editor, etc.

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    10. Re:It's for locomotion research by gv250 · · Score: 1

      Giving it a robotic leg is just plane silly.

      Which, for those of you not in the know, is less than car silly, but more than boat silly. Still, I think that method of comparing silly levels is plain silly.

      No, you misunderstand. Plane silly is less than space silly, but more than line silly.

      In fact, there is only one thing less then line silly, and beyond that there is no point.

    11. Re:It's for locomotion research by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen a TV report about this that was a bit more informative - one of their targets is "how can we make our four legged robots [one of them - military "mule" - was, iirc, even mentioned on /.] work and walk even after they've lost a leg or two?"
      If you send robot on battlefield, you might prefer it working somehow even when damaged. Or space probe you've spent millions to get on another planet.

    12. Re:It's for locomotion research by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Say for example that someone where to develop a robot to explore mars, if one does not want that robot to get stuck it could be of interest to make it quadpedal instead of wheeled.
      If one of the legs fail, wouldn't you think that this study would be worth quite a lot?

    13. Re:It's for locomotion research by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A robot might lose a leg. What if you have an all-terrain robot, rock climbing... it's useful to have 4 limbs, maybe 6 or 8. And then it loses random limbs....

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    14. Re:It's for locomotion research by Zantac69 · · Score: 1

      Our Cairn Terrier pulled an Evel Knievel off the couch when he was 6 months old and broke his back left leg. He got an infection (and even with treatment)...and he had to lose the leg. I can tell you one thing - he is a fighter. I carried him outside the morning after his surgery and helped him stand so he could piss. He was up walking that afternoon...and I had to stop him from running up the stairs 3 days later.

      Ours runs rip-shit-riot around the house and lives a wonderful life. He plays with other dogs and does not miss a beat.

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    15. Re:It's for locomotion research by osu-neko · · Score: 1

      Normally I'm all for studies that don't have any obvious near term benefit, but this is ridiculous. It's not a particularly useful set of studies to be making ...

      Well, one of the differences between the philosophical mind and the scientific mind is that the former loves to reason out conclusions a priori like you're doing above, whereas the latter likes to actually test things. It's impossible to say until after the study is done whether it will yield any useful results. There are good reasons to think it will, though, as the same neural processes are pretty much guaranteed in all mammals when it comes to how they going about reorganizing their locomotive systems.

      As for making robotic prosthesises, perhaps at some point we need to just admit that it's just an animal... Giving it a robotic leg is just plane silly.

      I'd accuse of you being plane stupid but planes can practically land themselves these days. Clue alert: robotic prosthesises are not just for dogs anymore!

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  5. Nice to know... by Nargg · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I guess there's some irony knowing that the EU has as much issues with wasted government grants as we do here in the US.

  6. Thats what they call me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The ladies call me the Three Legged Dog, and I'd love to show you how I move.

    1. Re:Thats what they call me by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

      The ladies call me the Three Legged Dog, and I'd love to show you how I move.

      If you ask me to throw you a bone, I'm leaving.

    2. Re:Thats what they call me by Obliquitous+Cowherd · · Score: 1

      I think he'd rather throw YOU a bone...

    3. Re:Thats what they call me by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

      Gigity.

    4. Re:Thats what they call me by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

      Sweet jeebus! I wish I had mod points!

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    5. Re:Thats what they call me by jprupp · · Score: 1

      We're all guys here you insensitive clod.

  7. Automail anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    1 step closer to automail... :)

  8. My biggest problem with this study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rather than use existing three-legged dogs, they plan on removing one of the legs of a four-legged animal. The study could be run 25% cheaper, but the leg-cutters union objected too much.

    1. Re:My biggest problem with this study by hedwards · · Score: 1

      For it to be a scientifically viable study, you pretty much have to cut legs off. 3 legged dogs are sufficiently unusual that depending upon the study you'd have to get before data on pretty much every dog in a country to get enough before and after information to make for a valid study. At which point you've pretty much negated the point of doing a study in the first place. Likewise if you wait until afterwards you're going to be dealing with data that's not scientifically valid as you don't know what it looked like before hand and have no idea what specific changes have happened as a result.

  9. No irony, not wasted by Kupfernigk · · Score: 0, Troll

    Irony means writing the opposite of what you intend your reader to understand, so I'm at a loss to understand your post. Are you one of the "Americans that don't get irony" stereotypes? And this obviously isn't wasted money; it's looking into robotics applications.

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    1. Re:No irony, not wasted by blackfrancis75 · · Score: 1

      actually there are eight accepted meanings for the term Irony - I think at this stage it can mean whatever you want it to.

  10. Old Joke -- EU and the three-legged pig by jrbirdman · · Score: 1

    I just don't see what possible value that studying three-legged dogs to bring to the table. How to help leg-challenged horses?

    How about as fodder for jokes?...

    This traveling salesman is _way_ out in the hills and approaches a farmer to try to sell his wares. He notices a three legged pig hopping around in the front yard and asks the farmer about it. "That's no ordinary pig!" exclaims the farmer. "That pig is smart! We all owe our lives to that thar pig! Why, last winter we wuz all asleep and a spark from the fireplace caught the cabin on fire, and we would've all burned up. But that pig squeeled and beat on the front porch to wake us up and saved all our lives! And last sprang my son wuz a swimmin in the pond and took a cramp and woulda drown, but that thar pig come a runnin to the back fourty where I was a plowin and drug me by the overalls til I saw him and saved his life again!" "Wow, but what happened to his leg?" asked the salesman. "We owe it all to that pig! Why, it wouldn't be right to just eat him all at once!"

  11. actual information by mattdm · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's the actual project site: http://locomorph.eu/

    Obviously not all of the 1.3 billion USD (not actually "multi-billion" -- the Euro/Dollar conversion isn't that bad!) is going to research on "three-legged dogs". It's about robotic locomotion in general, of which that may be one component (although the project web site doesn't particularly mention it).

    Also, it's a four-year project split between six universities. That's about $50 million per year for each site, which is still a big grant but doesn't seem so crazy for the field.

    1. Re:actual information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, it's a four-year project split between six universities. That's about $50 million per year for each site, which is still a big grant but doesn't seem so crazy for the field.

      Don't go bringing "facts" and "numbers" into this - it confuses the poor conservatives who only want to rant about how "GOVERNMENT SPENDING IS TEH EVIL" for a while before they go collect their Social Security and/or farm subsidy checks.

  12. Idle or not, very stupid and suggestive article by pjotrb123 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most of the article focuses on 1 billion vs 3-legged dogs. Only the last paragraph mentions that a total of 16000 researchers will be funded. I'm quite sure some of the remaining 15995 are doing something useful or interesting too, but somehow they neglect to mention this.

    A typical example of modern media hyping things up, a submitter that makes it even worse, and a Slashdot editor who thinks what the heck it's summer lets put it on the front page.

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  13. U.S. falls behind in 3 leg dog research by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It used to be that The U.S. let the world in everything: steel production , electricity production, coal, silly government boondoggle projects, etc. Now we wake up one day and find that the Europeans are pulling ahead of us. leaving us in the dust in 3 leg dog research.
    Another sad note on the decline of our once great country.

  14. Re:Its o do with community relations by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    HUH?

    Really? Billions of dollars in three legged dogs ey?

    What in the world are they thinking about? I know I know, three legged dawgs.

    Well the EU wants to understand Muslims, so why not start by a a study of Muhammad. Since he is long since dead any other dog that isn't walking on all paws will do.

    You could be on to something there .... standing in a roundabout is asking to lose a leg.

  15. Why dogs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wouldn't it be cheaper and just as effective to study three legged mice?

  16. They've got the hearts of champions by bareman · · Score: 1

    obligatory Homestarrunner reference: http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail109.html

    "I can make it on my own."

  17. Life Aquatic by hansamurai · · Score: 1

    I was just watching Life Aquatic last night and there was a three legged dog running around, its movement was pretty incredible especially when it was running.

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  18. I doubt it's billions. by mbone · · Score: 1

    Millions, maybe. Billions to study animal locomotion ? NFW

  19. Robotics links by Onnimikki · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hi, The Locomorph Group ( http://locomorph.eu/ ) is made up of science and engineering partners. The science partners (University of Antwerp and the University of Jena, where the dogs are being researched) are guiding the robotics research on shape-changing robots at Ryerson University (the only non-EU partner, located in Canada), the University of Zurich, the Ecole Polytechnique de Lausanne and the University of Southern Denmark. More stories on the project can be found here: http://idw-online.de/de/news379765 (in German) http://cordis.europa.eu/fetch?CALLER=EN_NEWS_FP7&ACTION=D&DOC=2&CAT=NEWS&QUERY=0129d6293767:57a8:2486afcf&RCN=32339 (in English), http://www.lemondeinformatique.fr/actualites/lire-l-ue-octroie-1-2-milliard-d-euros-a-la-recherche-en-robotique-et-dans-les-reseaux-31224.html (in French), http://www.jenapolis.de/69486/nicht-nur-spielzeug-wissenschaftler-demonstrieren-laufroboter/ (in German) There are also some informal photos from our meeting last week: http://www.ee.ryerson.ca/~jasmith/locomorph/photos/jena_2010/ Other photos can be found here: http://idw-online.de/de/image120758 http://www.jenapolis.de/69486/nicht-nur-spielzeug-wissenschaftler-demonstrieren-laufroboter/

    1. Re:Robotics links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zurich in the EU? Lausanne in the EU? Since when is Switzerland a member of the EU?

    2. Re:Robotics links by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      Shh.... we don't want to upset them.

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    3. Re:Robotics links by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

      "There's a hard core [of the "environmental movement"] that's sort of a zombie remnant of Soviet psyops. - ESR"

      I'm on a mailing list with that drama queen!

      He really believes that bullshit, you know.

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  20. Do they wear the ground more or less? by rcpitt · · Score: 1

    Breed for 3 legs - wears out the parks and other grassy spots less - net savings over 4 centuries = $1 billion (not counting inflation)

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  21. I owned one by LatencyKills · · Score: 2, Informative

    I had a rottweiler mix that lost his front left leg to osteosarcoma. At slow speeds, he would move kind of like an inchworm, hopping his remaining front leg forward, then jumping both back legs forward, wash, rinse, repeat. He could do it while keeping his head on the ground, say following a scent trail. At higher speeds (and even after the amputation he was faster than his brother) he would do a run in which his two right legs would move, then the remaining left rear would move. His head would bob up and down as he ran. Oh, and when he peed, he would lift his left rear leg, and balance on his two right feet. BTW, the cancer came back and got him a year after the amputation - bone cancer of the back left leg, and we didn't want to try him as a two legged dog, though I understand some of those get around as well.

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    1. Re:I owned one by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I used to see a dog that apparently had non-functional rear legs.

      It's hard to describe the device he was riding on, but it was like half a toy scooter with a harness. He seemed to be able to pull himself along with just his front legs, at least on a flattish surface.

      I reckon injuries on the same side or opposite corners would be a bit of a bugger, though.

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    2. Re:I owned one by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

      Some breeds such as German shepherds are very susceptible to arthritis and other joint problems. Some of them will effectively have the rear part of their bodies painfully seize up and not necessarily when they are in advanced years. Hence the harness wheel gizmo. Sad really. The reason they get this in the first place is the years and years of inbreeding.

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  22. re: osteosarcoma and Rottweilers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had heard that Jean-Claude Van Damme's Rott got osteosarcoma, but in all 4 legs. Incredibly he had all 4 of its legs amputated and the dog continued - if you can call it living - with no legs, as an invalid that was nursed by humans for its needs. I just hope it died quickly and painlessly.

  23. Different body shapes by tepples · · Score: 1

    As I understand it, mouse legs are shaped differently from dog legs. Correlating the study on mice against the study on dogs would help show how adaptations to limb reconfiguration differ with body proportion.

  24. Yep, welcome to the world of E.U. funding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I live in Europe, and in the past I had to deal quite a lot with projects coming from the same framework as this one. You can't imagine how cumbersome it is to get funded by them. They don't really evaluate the actual scientific quality of your project, but rather your ability to conform to the numerous, super dumb rules that they impose on you (e.g. hey I got this super clevere idea and I'd like to develop it with my good friend living next door... nop, sorry but you MUST work with someone living in another euro country...). Never in my life I have to make so many useless reports that nobody ever reads, nor did I have to deal with people wearing suits who had no idea what the hell we were doing. It basically is handled by morons (quite like the rest of the E.U. parliment) who ended up there by pure chance (or clever help from some "friends"), and who should be fired and put to some actual work asap. Sooo well, such a bizarre and pointless research does not surprise me at all (PS: yup, I don't like the E.U. institutions very much)

  25. wow by ILuvRamen · · Score: 1

    For $100,000 they can watch me walk on my hands lol. At that price, can they afford not to?

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  26. Interesting study, love too see data by MonsterMasher · · Score: 1

    Interesting study ;

    I wonder if there is interest in studying the adaptive phase of the subjects transfering between 4 to 3 legs. What effect does age of the subjects have? I hope they study the transition of gates on tread mill.

    I would love access to this data and a peak at the models. Using Neural-nets? Evolutionary nets?

    I imagine a 3 legged robot would be the most cost effective proposition system.

    Cool stuff!

  27. Make that 2.7 million Euro by Brown · · Score: 4, Informative

    The implication that the EU is spending billions of euros on a program to study 3-legged dogs is completely misleading. The fund in question appears to be FP7 (Wikipedia article), which funds a huge variety of researchers on many differnet topics.

    If you look at what I think is the relevant EU site, the project received EUR 2.7 million from the 'Embodied intelligence' Initiative within the 'Information and communication technologies' (ICT) Thematic area of the Seventh Framework Programme (FP7).

    Which wouldn't make much of a story I guess - "multi-billion" sounds waaay more impressive.

    -Chris

  28. More evidence... by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    ...of how far Europe is ahead of the USA in science.

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      Right...

      - http://www.andrewpearson.org

  29. Mod parent up by antientropic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Indeed, the real story here (though not news by any means) is the inability of the British press to report on the EU without being willfully misleading. The headline "European £1bn IT programme to study three-legged dogs" is not strictly speaking false - it just fails to mention that that 1 billion will be used for many other things as well. A more reasonable article is here: European IT Research Gets €1.2 Billion From EU.

  30. OMG ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    OMG ! Those billions of dollars could have been invested in the military in order to bring democracy in so many countries !

    SUPPORT OUR TROOPS !

    Stupid europeons ! They'd all be speaking german if it wasn't for us ! Just give us the money ! We are good with money !

  31. mod parent up by jfoobaz · · Score: 1

    Shitty original reporting, combined with intellectual laziness of the Slashdot poster and editors.

  32. No shortage of test subjects by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    If they run out of 3-legged dogs to study, we can always make more!

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  33. here by jopet · · Score: 1

    http://locomorph.eu/home/project/description

  34. And a slashdot reader who reads it by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    If people stopped reading slashdot because they didn't like the articles, then slashdot editors would change their act.

    But we don't. We watch Idols and so they serve us Idols. The news has become froth at the mouth headlines because that is what people watch.

    Follow the money, the money always comes from the viewer. YOU (and me)

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    1. Re:And a slashdot reader who reads it by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > Follow the money, the money always comes from the viewer. YOU (and me)

      YOU, maybe. Not me. I block all ads.

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  35. Oblig - Faith the 2 legged dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    National Geographic blog post on Faith the 2 legged dog

    http://faiththedog.info -- His website

  36. Oh, it's even worse than that. by mattdm · · Score: 1

    Looks like the €1B goes to 16,000 separate participants -- the Locomorph project is just one of those. Soooo, an average of about $80,000 each. :-/

  37. If you pay them taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are their subject. Welcome to a European Union: have you met your president?

  38. Offtopic by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

    There's a hard core [of the "environmental movement"] that's sort of a zombie remnant of Soviet psyops. - ESR

    I'm on a mailing list with that drama queen!

    He really believes that bullshit, you know.

    Oh I'm sure he does. Luckily he's got his trusty .45 to protect you from the commie zombie eco-nuts.

    He's also the guy to see if you have some FORTRAN problems.

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    1. Re:Offtopic by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

      Irony is defined thus:

      I'm the guy who recommended the particular .45 pistol (the Colt Officer's Model ) he ultimately purchased.

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    2. Re:Offtopic by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      Well, as long as you didn't teach him all he knows about FORTRAN...

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    3. Re:Offtopic by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

      That would be 10 minutes of my life I'd never get back.

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  39. Will it solve the biggest question? by Killer+Instinct · · Score: 1

    Why are they all named "Lucky"?

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  40. "given their missing limb" by RandomCake · · Score: 1

    "There is a particular focus on how the dogs balance and function, given their missing limb." I'm not sure that giving the dog their missing will make any difference, and I don't think many three legged dogs still have their third leg sitting around...

  41. Study cats! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Boo! Study three-legged cats instead! As long as you're not hurting any of them.

            --Stephen (the owner of three three legged cats)

  42. biased by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess I'm biased, but I still think this study is better than every EU parliament member getting an ipad!

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7134077.ece

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