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Swedish Pirate Party Launches ISP
WillDraven writes "Torrentfreak is reporting that the Swedish Pirate Party has launched an ISP. Starting with 100 residents in a housing organization in the city of Lund, Pirate ISP hopes to gain 5% of the market in Lund before spreading to other markets. Headed by longtime Pirate Party member Gustav Nipe (video interview in English), the company aims to provide Internet service with the sort of guarantees one would expect from the Pirate Party. Most notable are the promises to keep no logs of subscriber activity and thus to provide no data to law enforcement or private corporations."
... people start using it for child pornography transfer and other things that SHOULD be illegal.
...that a special ISP has to be launched to get the type of protections every ISP should have.
Then this ISP can set up an autoreply that gets triggered by "DMCA" in the body, informing the sender that the DMCA is an american law and totally irrelevant in most other countries. (though writing such replies manually can be a lot of fun, I did plenty of that when I worked as abuse-handler at a large webhost in Denmark. A lot of American lawyer-types really can't get it into their thick skulls that american laws are not universal, and if they have a valid complaint they need to say so (and be specific!) instead of just waving around a wand, trying to invoke the magical DMCA.)
how would you feel if i was able to call up and get your IP from this post - then call your ISP and get your address, along with usage logs so i can approximate when you will be home.
then i'll just go sit on your door step and say hi and talk to your neighbors that i'm just watching you for suspicious activity because you where online talking about keywords "child pornography & terrorism"
now - does it make a difference if i'm wearing a uniform or not?
what if i was a politician and you happened to say something negative about my campaign?
the point is - that we need an avenue for free speech - we need an avenue to be able to anonymous. do people abuse that? yes they do - should we penalize all of society to a nanny/police state for the few? NO..
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"... this age of terrorism and child pornography ..."
What the hell? You think this age is "different" some how?
Terrorism is certainly not rampant. Look back a few decades, to say, the fifties or the sixties when there were riots all over the USA.
Child Pornography, hell. Look back a century, "children" were getting married to middle-aged men and having their babies. The only difference is, back then nobody arrested you for it, or even thought twice about it.
"This age" is noted only for everybody being declared a criminal and living in fear that their government is going to lock them up if they happen to say something ... like, say, this post on SlashDot RIGHT HERE.
"Flame away, I wear asbestos underwear"
Yeah but that does not really stop the **AA's does it?
Admit nothing. Deny Everything. Make Counter-accusations.
the health and physical well-being of my family and neighborhood
Let me put you and your family in a prison I design and I'd be almost certain that your health and physical well-being will be ensured. I'm not sure you'd enjoy it much, though.
That is all.
"for the purpose of illegal activities"
Why would you assume this?
Believe it or not, there are people in this world who are just as law-abiding as you may be, but who don't want our every action cataloged by those in government.
There is no reason that anybody needs to know where I am, when I'm asleep, or when I poop, despite what the people pushing for National Healthcare might think (when you poop could be important, if you're constipated it'll cost us all more money to pay for your healthcare).
"for the purpose of privacy"
IS NOT
"for the purpose of illegal activity"
No matter what those in power would rather you believe.
"Flame away, I wear asbestos underwear"
in this age of terrorism and child pornography
You say that as though terrorism was something even slightly new (it isn't, and has been going on for centuries, if not millennia), and as though child pornography is anything more than child abuse (which isn't even limited to our species it goes so far back) with a camera.
Should we go after Kodak for making child porn possible, or after Polaroid for making it easy to anonymise?
The logs they are speaking of is rather who customer got which IP lease for which date and time. Without those it's just an IP with no-one to charge. With them they got a real person.
until that IP address is witnessed logging in to a facebook account or checking an email address or the 1000s of other ways traffic can be analyzed to pair requests up with real people.
The stupid pirate party and the stupid Swedish government have just handed a huge propaganda victory to the RIAA. Within a week the entire swedish economy will have ground to a halt and terrorists will be overrunning sweden and building WMDs! Then the RIAA will say "We told you so! Look what happens when ordinary people are allowed freedom!"
They whose government reduces their essential liberties for temporary security, receive neither liberty nor security.
Child Pornography, hell. Look back a century, "children" were getting married to middle-aged men and having their babies. The only difference is, back then nobody arrested you for it, or even thought twice about it.
I know, that always kills me. People try to say that they're "kids", yet not that long ago they would be married at that age. Hell, people try to talk down on teenagers and say that they're stupid and such, but it's only because society changed to make them less responsible. 100 years ago many of those high schoolers would have had a job and a family already. That's how things were for thousands of years, then all of the sudden society goes batshit crazy and decides that anyone under 30 is incompetent and needs the government to tell them what they can and cannot do.
I'm all for punishing people who intentionally harm others. However, I'm not for having blanket rules because a few old people who had crappy lives decide that they know better than everyone else.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." ~Thomas Jefferson
God damn. Get off your chair, get the thumb out of your ass and start your own party you lazy fatso. The revolution won't happen all by itself you know.
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Sadly, I would buy a used car from one of them before I bought one from a politician. Well, maybe a used boat. Seeing that they're pirates and all.
Not that much, actually. The apprentice system tended to keep teens under their master's thumbs.
Defending the legalization of private sharing is legitimate (as any other speech, as in Free Speech), and it's their main platform. They don't need to "cover it" using other stuff - they call themselves the "Pirate Party", for crying out loud, do you really think they're trying to hide their motives?
Privacy is just another of their position, it's not a cover up for anything, because they obviously aren't trying to cover up their main motive.
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And really, in this age of terrorism and child pornography is it even a good idea to have an anonymous isp?
Yes, in this age of very real abuse of our rights in freedoms for the sake of fighting largely imaginary and/or irrelevant threats such as terrrorism and child pornography, it is an extremely good idea to have an anonymous ISP.
Oh yes, the promise to pay for a one-way ticket to North Korea applies to you as well, and I'm dead serious here: you get your Big Brother wet dream come true (with minor inconveniences such as a mostly-grass diet, but it's a small price for safety, isn't it?), and we get one less person who is eager to vote away his and others' freedoms that make up the cornerstone of the modern Western society.
So, someone that pushed for legalization of alcohol during Prohibition was illegitimate in their goals and reasons because alcohol use was against the law and anyone wanting to change that has to be evil?
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THERE IS NO BIG BROTHER. THERE IS NO LITTLE BROTHER. there is government. there is government that respects privacy and there is government that does not respect privacy. discuss facts. discuss the truth. don't anthropomorphize fascism and invasion of privacy by the government as inevitable as the invasion of privacy i would expect to grant to a member of my family.
I doubt the FRA will answer any requests....
the issue isn't "will they?", it's "can they?" and "should they?". if the answers are respectively YES, NO, then why aren't they NO, NO.
You have to forgive the GP. He/she is a product of the Western school systems and media which are more interested in producing obedient consumers than citizens.
Obedience to the authorities and blind belief in the law are all hammered into people from the tenderest of ages and constantly reinforced by the media (consider how many TV series are about the "hero-like-cops enforcing the law" vs "hero-like-rebels challenging the law").
Some of us, when we get to adulthood become aware of how dirty and corrupt the process of making laws is and how many laws out there serve purposes which are in fact "prop-up the business model of my buddies" and against the best interests of society.
Some of the great heroes of our times (like Ghandi) actually broke the law again and again and in fact, in his time, grand figures of the US history like Washington and his co-revolutionaries where busy breaking the laws of the crown.
Blindly following unfair laws is the way of the Sheep, not of Man.
And what if one thinks (as I do) that noncommercial copying and distribution of data should be legal? I should just STFU? Sorry, but I won't. I won't STFU about wanting drugs, prostitution, and gambling legalized, either. Noncommercial copying and distribution doesn't harm anyone, and study after study has show this.
As to drugs, prostitution, and gambling, how I piss my money away is none of anybody's business but my own.
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