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Feds Bust Chinese Firm's Hybrid Car Data Heist

coondoggie writes "An FBI investigation has led a Michigan couple to be charged with stealing hybrid car information from GM to use in a Chinese auto outfit. A federal indictment charged Yu Qin, aka Yu Chin, 49, and his wife, Shanshan Du, aka Shannon Du, 51, of Troy, Michigan with conspiracy to possess trade secrets without authorization, unauthorized possession of trade secrets, and wire fraud. One of the individuals was also charged with obstruction of justice, said Barbara McQuade, United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan in a statement. GM estimates that the value of the stolen documents is over $40 million."

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  1. Re:Must have been for export by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ah yes - the Dust to Dust report by marketing agency CNW. Debunked in many places, one of them here: http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integrity_of_science/case_studies/hummer_vs_prius.pdf

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    Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue.
  2. Re:Must have been for export by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 4, Informative
    *voice of Kevin Spacey villain in Superman*
    WRONG!

    http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/environment/recycle/battery/index.html

    The "Big Honkin' Battery" you refer to is fully recycled. Perhaps research a bit before spouting off?

  3. Re:Not Patents by nedlohs · · Score: 3, Informative

    How do patents ever violate free speech?

    You can talk about them, copy them, repeat them, etc. You just can't do* what is described without permission from the patent holder.

    * the definition of "do" varies by jurisdiction.

  4. Re:Must have been for export by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hybrids are a bit of a joke, efficiency wise so I have my doubts about a domestic market for them in China.

    Hybrids are pretty damn impressively efficient if applied to a medium-small vehicle used mainly in city and near-by suburbs. The joke is when you try to apply the same concept to a huge SUV. Or when the majority of your driving is out of the cities. One size does not fit all.

    But you'd expect that they would get found out.

    How? I'll remind a lot of readers here that these "secrets" are not always about the some new automotive technology. Manufacturers have huge teams of engineers that tackle many manufacturing processes as well. How do you increase the reliability of the manufacturing processes? How do you build more cars in the same plant in less time? How do you paint more cars with less wasted water? How do you automate lubricant application? How can you be sure the engine is ready to run at 8,000RPM right off the line without "breaking-in"? This is just the tip of the ice berg of what kind of "secrets" are out there, that would not be obvious just by looking at the car.

  5. This is a real problem.. details below. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    You think the Russians had spies? They're nothing compared to the Chinese.

    This is not individual actors out for their own gain, this is a concerted effort over the last 30 years to get China on par with the latest tech, by hook or crook.

    While there's nothing wrong with that per-se, the thing that everyone seems to be ignoring is that China is not an open society and all this maneuvering is to get more Geopolitical Power for the Communist Party. A non-representative, totalitarian regime bent on imposing its will across the region and the world. People assume once China is "caught up" they'll follow international rules and "play fair". This is a fairy tale, they are out to dominate.. and will take whatever steps necessary to make sure that happens, economic or military. Their own population is just a tool towards this endgame.

    Ever wonder how Pakistan got nukes? China.

    Wonder how North Korea got nukes through Pakistan? China made the intro.
    That way, their hands were clean but they were able to create a permanent buffer zone on the Korean peninsula and pre-empt any German equivalent of reunification which would put a functioning democracy on their doorstep.

    China is playing a dangerous game and people who think prosperity will make them fat and happy are completely mistaken.. the economy is a tool for them both to placate their population and to wield as a weapon on the international stage.

  6. Re:smog by blackraven14250 · · Score: 5, Informative

    They have 6x the number of research papers because they give grants to the people who write the most papers without regard for quality. The result is for every legitimate paper, there's 100 that are outright wrong, plagarized (we know their ideas about sharing information), or don't have any original research.