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Google Schedules Chrome 6, 7, and 8 For This Year

An anonymous reader writes "Google said that it will be releasing a new stable version of Chrome every six weeks, which is about twice as fast as the release pace today. The goal is to make new features available when they are done and to make Chrome releases more predictable. Has anyone complained that there were too few new Chrome releases? Mozilla has been releasing a major new browser update twice a year and Microsoft is on an 18-24 month pace. Firefox's 4.0 Beta 2 is scheduled for release soon, and it appears that Mozilla is somewhat paranoid about the Black Hat Conference. 3.6.6 was planned to be the original 'Black Hat release'; now we are at version 3.6.7 and Mozilla has already a build candidate of 3.6.8 that will be released depending on news coming out of Black Hat."

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  1. Speculation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe because "Internet Explorer 9" sounds better than "Chrome 5" to some people just because of the version number.

    1. Re:Speculation by dingen · · Score: 5, Informative

      You are exactly right. And it's quite noble of Google they are actually planning to release version 6 to 8 at all. They could take an example of Sierra or Microsoft.

      The Larry team at Sierra On-Line felt they were falling behind to King's Quest in the late eightees. King's Quest was already at number 4 in 1988, while a year later Larry only released part 3. To get ahead, the folks at the Larry team decided to skip part 4 altogether and go straight on to Larry 5.

      Microsoft played an even worse trick with Word for Windows when they released version 6 in '93 after their previous version 2 from '91. Afterall, WordPerfect was also at version 6, so now Word was up to speed as well.

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    2. Re:Speculation by SquarePixel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If you know the history of browsers it's the most obvious one too. This goes back to IE and Netscape era, where Netscape actually skipped over a version number because IE was "leading" them. Now Google does the same bullshit...

    3. Re:Speculation by treeves · · Score: 4, Funny

      So why not go straight to 11? Then it beats OS X too, which has been stuck at Roman Numeral ten for-freaking-ever.

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    4. Re:Speculation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Damned! You beat me to it! The explanation is simple indeed: Google goes all the way to 11.

    5. Re:Speculation by Chaostrophy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't forget bind, went from 4.9 to 9 in the mid-late 1990s.

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    6. Re:Speculation by LordLucless · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Most of the transitions between those names weren't major revisions - they were re-badging to avoid getting sued. (Phoenix -> Firebird, Firebird -> Firefox)

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    7. Re:Speculation by Inner_Child · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The Larry team at Sierra On-Line felt they were falling behind to King's Quest in the late eightees. King's Quest was already at number 4 in 1988, while a year later Larry only released part 3. To get ahead, the folks at the Larry team decided to skip part 4 altogether and go straight on to Larry 5.

      Except this isn't right. The reason there was no Leisure Suit Larry 4 was, in the words of the creator:

      So why did Leisure Suit Larry 5 follow Leisure Suit Larry 3?

      Why wasn't Passionate Patti Does a Little Undercover Work named Larry 4?

      There are several reasons:

      I always assumed the series would be a trilogy. It just seemed right. I was pleased that people enjoyed Larry 2 enough to convince Sierra that a third installment would be well received. Therefore, I made the ending of Larry 3 air tight: Larry and Patti were together at last; Larry was telling his life story through a computer game; it appeared they would live happily ever after, etc.

      While Larry 3 was in "crunch mode," I was working 'round the clock to get it out in time for the 1990 holiday shopping season. I grew tired. And tired of Larry. When Sierra employees asked me about the next Larry, my disgusted response was, "There's not going to be a Larry 4! I'm stopping with three."

      When we finally gave up trying to develop a multi-player on-line adventure, I came up with some fun ideas for the fourth game, but I was stuck for a beginning. I couldn't figure out how to start the story because I had left Larry and Patti living happily ever after, remember? How to get them out of Coarsegold?

      When my design for the fourth game was well along, one day, in the hallway of Sierra, I ran into an employee I hadn't seen for quite some time. Her first question was, "So what are you working on these days, Al? Larry 4?" And I, in true smart-ass fashion, replied, "No, Larry 5! Of course I'm working on Larry 4!"

      A light bulb went off!

      Why not? Who says sequels must always be "in order?"

      I started bouncing the idea off people. Inevitably, their response was, "Larry 5? What happened to Larry 4?!"

      That was exactly what I wanted. Suddenly I was completely freed from the restraints of the Larry 3 ending. I could have the new game begin anywhere. The idea was wacky, silly, dumb in a perfect "Larry-esque" way. And, it solved the "mind share" problem--how to grab people's attention and make them think about the next Larry game and had they missed something?

      And that, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, is the whole truth about what happened to Larry 4!

      Either that or my dog ate the floppies!

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    8. Re:Speculation by R.Mo_Robert · · Score: 3, Informative

      Microsoft played an even worse trick with Word for Windows when they released version 6 in '93 after their previous version 2 from '91. Afterall, WordPerfect was also at version 6, so now Word was up to speed as well.

      Sort of. Microsoft Word for Mac was at version 5.1 at this point, and to synchronize version numbers between the platforms, they decided to call the next version on both Windows and Mac version 6. (This was also the first time the Windows and Mac versions shared siginficant amount of code, much to the detriment of the Mac version. In fact, MS offered free "downgrades" to 5.1 due to all the complaints. Anyway, this code-sharing is probably also responsible for their desire for version-number synchronization.)

      Of course, I'm sure looking equal or better next to WordPerfect didn't hurt, either. :)

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    9. Re:Speculation by quickOnTheUptake · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, it's not just big corps; slackware did the same thing.

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  2. huh. by igadget78 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So are these all beta's?

  3. Why? by sznupi · · Score: 2, Informative

    It gets upgraded automatically anyway, no reason to encourage people there... (yes, I do hope, perhaps in vain, that it doesn't affect the decisions on the level of "I can't use this browser, it has too low number")

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  4. Idiots by neoform · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Anyone that says, "Oh, Internet Explorer 9 is better than Chrome 5" is an idiot.

    That's like saying, "Terminator 4 is clearly better than The Godfather, look it's 3 versions newer!"

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    1. Re:Idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's a reason why the Xbox 360 isn't called the Xbox 2. It's because 360 > 3 (i.e. Playstation 3), and thus, obviously must be better.

    2. Re:Idiots by boreddotter · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A lot of people are not as computer literate as slashdotters, many will think exactly that. Have you ever seen the video google made a while back asking people which browser they used? I pretty sure it was just before they released their own browser, many said they used google, they didn't even know what a browser is.

    3. Re:Idiots by mrsquid0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      On the other hand, Apollo 13 blew the pants off the previous 12 Apollo movies.

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  5. Has anyone been complaining? Yes by DragonWriter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Has anyone complained that there were too few new Chrome releases?

    Certainly, there have been complaints that features that are stable in the beta channel not being in stable; having more frequent feature releases to stable addresses that.

  6. sleazy PR ploy by fermion · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Just like MS, Google is versioning browser to catch up, not because they do anything new. Google can't even get a product out of beta in less than two years, so why should it be expecting a major upgrade every quarter? Only one reason. To create the impression that the browser is better than Safari 5 (though it uses the same rendering engine) and to reduce the market impression that it is worse than IE 8.

    As it is, Chrome 2.0 should have been the 1.0 RTM, with everything before being a 0.x public release candidate(probably 0.5 onward). 3.0 simply added initial support for HTML 5 and improved code, a point release. 4.0 seems pretty real, so that might be have been a 2.0 in traditional terms. Probably by the upcoming version is a credible for real 3.0.

    Version numbering really does not matter, but to assert that releasing a version every six weeks is necessary to release features more often is silly. What Google is in fact saying is that Chrome is a very immature browser with a very immature feature set, and they are wiling to sacrifice everything else that once made Chrome a legitimate browser in an effort to make it buzzword compliant.

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    1. Re:sleazy PR ploy by Dhalka226 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What Google is in fact saying is that Chrome is a very immature browser with a very immature feature set, and they are wiling to sacrifice everything else that once made Chrome a legitimate browser in an effort to make it buzzword compliant.

      So Chrome is an immature browser with an immature feature set and yet a legitimate browser. But if they want to increase the maturity of the feature set "to make it buzzword compliant" that will be sacrificing everything? Does this compute to anybody?

      Sometimes new features are just bloat, and they end up bad. That doesn't mean that new features are automatically bad, and it surely doesn't mean that their versioning scheme has anything at all to do with its quality.

      Chrome is "legitimate" (whatever that means) or not on its own merits, not how often they release or what version number they attach to such releases. And frankly, if it's a "sleazy PR ploy" the only reason for it is that it works. If people truly believe Chrome is worse than Safari 5 or IE 8 just because of the version number why is it "sleazy" to take that excuse away and force people to actually evaluate the browser on its merits?

  7. Firefox 9000 by supernes · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seems like the most logical explaination to me as well. This is Mozilla's golden chance to end the browser war with one fell swoop by rebranding!

    1. Re:Firefox 9000 by Meski · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm imagining a shutdown dialog that runs " I know that you are planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen. "

  8. Emacs - ahead of its time again by benjto · · Score: 2, Funny

    I always thought using Emacs 23 to browse the web was at least 4 years ahead of its time.

  9. Not nearly enough updates! by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 4, Funny

    I won't be happy until my browser updates every time I launch it and at least once an hour while I'm browsing. And the updates should force an automatic restart.

  10. Re:could this be for marketing reasons? by DragonWriter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What other reason could it be - can they possibly crank out that many major versions and rewrites in this time frame and justify its technical viability

    Yes, but that's because Google is (unsurprisingly, as they are one of the companies whose practices are held up as models of lean methods) implementing a lean approach to what a "major version" is: a "major version" just means a stable release that contains anything other than bugfixes. Instead of setting up a system where there are a bucketload of features in each "major release" that all have to get ready together, with long times between major releases, they have lots of major releases, on a regular schedule, with whatever features are ready.

  11. Release Early & often..... by ducomputergeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    is not always good. If you are talking about changes like Safari 4 to 5 where nothing changed much in terms of interface and user interaction, it's just a version number. But if you start monkeying around with the UI and changing things that quickly. You make people mad.

      As an example I'll use Blender 3D. I used to work as the IT guy in a post production shop that mostly used Lightwave about a decade ago. I got to learn some of the basics, but 3D was a hobby along with video editing. I did some work on the side with FCP, but all the 3D work I did was pure fun & hobby. I was no where near talented enough to do it pro and the $2000 price tag of Lightwave made it a bit pricey (especially given the rendering times). Blender became usable for my goals in the 2.3x series and best of all I could get relatively cheap distributed rendering. I forget the exact details, but it was something like $50 per month unlimited frames of Blender. And I could do it month to month. So basically I'd create my scenes. That usually would take 3 - 5 months to get a few minutes of video. Once I had enough scenes to render about 5 minutes worth of animation, I'd buy a month subscription to the service and render away with multiple passes, etc..

    Well, then things started to change with the 2.4x version where it seemed like just as I got used to the new interface, boom, everything suddenly changed and I'd spent the next month trying to figure out where all the old buttons went and what the new ones did. Then the physics engine changed and all the previous scenes I had with particles effects would have to be redone and this continued it seemed like every 6 months. As someone who got to use the program a few hours a week, it seemed like every 6 months I was trying to relearn a program I had been using since 2000.

    Meanwhile, in the last couple years if I had used Lightwave, I would have had to upgrade once between Lightwave 8 and 9. And frankly, the interface hasn't changed that much since I started using the application in 1999 with version 5.6. A few things have moved, a bunch of features have been added, but basically I can load up the demo of 9 and within a weekend have my first scene ready to render. The overall style of the interface hasn't changed that much.

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    1. Re:Release Early & often..... by DragonWriter · · Score: 2, Informative

      But if you start monkeying around with the UI and changing things that quickly. You make people mad.

      Google hasn't said they plan to increase the number of UI changes Chrome experience per unit time. They just said they plan on releasing on a frequent and regular schedule, and releasing whatever features are ready for a stable release at each release.

  12. Version Number Games - HWGA! by EmagGeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here we go again with version number games! Gotta get to a big number quickly so people think your browser is at least as good as your competitor's.

    Chrome 3? Why would I use Chrome 3? Internet Explorer is at 8! EIGHT!!!

  13. Publicity without visibility? by shish · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So far everyone seems to be saying that the version number is a publicity thing; but I've been using chrome for about 6 months and have no idea what my version number is. What sort of publicity stunt hides in the background only visible to people who go out of their way to check the "about" menu?

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  14. Black Hat? by Journe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Question: What's this Black Hat version of Firefox? From the sound of it, I'm assuming it's a version that's tested for security by the...darker-helmed of the userbase.