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FreeBSD 8.1 Released
hsn and other readers pointed out that FreeBSD 8.1 has been released. "This is the second release from the 8-STABLE branch which improves on the functionality of FreeBSD 8.0 and introduces some new features. Some of the highlights: zfsloader added; zpool version of ZFS subsystem updated to version 14; NFSv4 ACL support in UFS and ZFS; support added to cp(1), find(1), getfacl(1), mv(1), and setfacl(1) utilities; UltraSPARC IV/IV+, SPARC64 V support; SMP support in PowerPC G5; BIND 9.6.2-P2..." ... and much more. See the release notes summary and the details.
Why no comments? Not even a frist psot? Whats wrong with the world?
It's nice to see they've got zfsloader in there by default, now. It was otherwise a huge pain to get ZFS to be booted from - you basically had to build your own installer and set up everything manually. Quite the time consuming task.
Unfortunately, I don't see any mention of these changes:
* "improved stability for ZFS". Sure, it supports pool version 14! What the fuck does that mean, really, when "bare minimum 4GB RAM" was a requirement for 8.0 to get it even remotely stable (some tuning required)? I don't care if it runs for months without locking the system. It's still locking the system.
* "decreased memory use for ZFS". It's not even doing deduplication in 8.0 RELEASE yet using 3GB of RAM at an idle load is not unheard of.
* Why so quiet on the USB front? Nice to see they got ralink devices added, but that does little for the fact that USB is almost completely unreliable in 8.x. Just take a look at the USB mailing list - problem after problem that's the same (USB has many, many timing/boot/detection issues in 8.x), with the seeming consensus being "we don't care, it works for me".
FreeBSD needs to fix those things or forever be relegated to amateur hour. Seems "quality things that work" gets relegated to "superior design". That's all fine and good, but if you've got to rape an ape just to get the damn thing to work as designed due to implementation flaws, it's essentially worthless.
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lol. 5th post!
Anyone know if this release improves ZFS stability on 32-bit machines? even with 2GB of ram i still get occasional kernel panics due to it running out of address space.
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The world's #1 most popular free software operating system!
At least to people not drinking Stalinman's communist kool-aid... All 8 of us...
Seriously, why so few comments on this story?
Maybe because it's Saturday evening and people are out doing things more fun than masturbating to a new release of FreeBSD?
Hours old post, other posts after attracting normal comment volume, this has eleven (11) posts as of this moment. If an update to a shitty, feeble, archaic operating system that only the most devoted antisocial fanbois give a flying fuck about doesn't deserve the "whocares" tag, nothing does.
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Hey, speak for yourself.
What is the airspeed of a fully laden swallow?
There really are only eight of you. PS: there are enough geeks on here not using FreeBSD to suggest that your initial premise is laughably false.
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I'd love to try BSD, but they have abysmal support for Broadcom Wireless chips (at least without performing a bunch of voodoo that is way outside my level of expertise). If/ when that ever happens, I'll be all over it.
I was speaking for myself. But, at the same time, I was also at home. And I love FreeBSD. So, what can I say...
Perhaps, although the number of (non-Ubuntu) Linux machines deployed outside of people's parent's basements exceeds fBSD and Ubuntu combined, which is kind of a built-in interest base. My expectation is that most smart people try to stay abreast of trends in the industry they work in ;) by tulare (244053) writes: on Saturday July 24, @11:21PM (#33018536) Journal
Perhaps the number of Linux machines deployed outside of subprime mortgaged over leveraged homes you shouldn't even BE in, shithead, ought to be taken away from the likes of a shit like yourself, since you really cannot afford it, you arrogant FUCK? My expectation is that most "smart people" like you are nothing more than over indebted, big-talking, bullshit artist FAKES and thieves trying to "keep up with the joneses" and "keep up appearances" and the funniest part is, most of them have less real actual skills than most 6 yr. old's do intellectually!
I had a very common ASUS ethernet adapter. When I tried to install FreeBSD to try it out I found that they had no support for this adapter. It was the one that most of the ASUS MB's used at the time. I see they still, 2 years later, do not support this very common adapter. It is an ATTANSIC L1 ethernet adapter and is very common. Until FreeBSD starts opening themselves to the common hardware that is used on many of the MB's then I don't see why I should jump through hoops to use their O/S. I did try DeskBSD on an older computer I had and it worked fairly well but not any better than Linux did and Linux had a lot more supporting applications than the BSD did. Saw no reason to go to BSD over what I could find elsewhere and with more support. Real shame because the basic structure is great but the details that are missing make all the difference. I find that ARCH Linux and Mint Linux give me more with speedier applications than BSD does and still have the protection that Windows does not offer.
FreeBSD is a nice 'hobby' OS; however, it it lacks drivers for virtually all modern devices. There are no drivers for all but a few 'N' protocol wireless cards, and even those drivers are not as fully functional as those available for Windows. They have never gotten Java updated to where it is usable in the latest versions of Firefox either. Its support for SATA drives is somewhat limited. In fact, the number of devices that are not supported by FreeBSD is far larger than the number supported. Amd64 support is still not up to snuff either. Supposedly, they have improved their ACL support. I will have to investigate to see if it is up to the levels of other *.nix systems.
The FreeBSD team appears more interested in bumping its version number every few months than it is in getting its OS fully functional in a modern world. It took years before they even got support for nVidia drivers in 64bit mode. Of all the non Windows operating systems available, I would put FreeBSD at the bottom of the list.
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Seriously, no one cares about FreeBSD any more.
You know the deal - it's gone. May its body be preserved for all eternity.