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Global Warming 'Undeniable,' Report Says

BergZ writes "Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming. 'A comprehensive review of key climate indicators confirms the world is warming and the past decade was the warmest on record,' the annual State of the Climate report declares. Compiled by more than 300 scientists from 48 countries, including Canada, the report from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said its analysis of 10 indicators that are 'clearly and directly related to surface temperatures, all tell the same story: Global warming is undeniable.'"

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  1. Undeniable? No Such Thing by damn_registrars · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The people who decided some time ago that they dislike global warming for whatever reason will always find a way to rationalize their denial of it. They are not about to let some pesky "facts" from "experts" cloud their judgment.

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  2. Re:But is it caused by humans? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I thought the issue wasn't whether climate change was happening, but whether it was artificial or natural.

    Nah, there are plenty of people who deny it outright. To plenty of people, the whole global warming issue is nothing but a grand socialist conspiracy aiming to take away their god-given right to do whatever the hell they want, whenever the hell they want to do it, with no regards whatsoever to any part of the planet that might exist beyond their own nose.

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  3. Re:Undeniable? No Such Thing by damn_registrars · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    That is a fine job you just did of stating your position while not saying a damned thing about why you hold that position. If you have data that counters this research, then share it. Making fun of the other side and reaching for a "holier-than-thou" position for yourself does not in any way detract from actual data.

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  4. Strawman by argStyopa · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Meh. As much as people will post about "OMG, those stupid deniers won't care!" I'll just remind folks that very few people deny that there IS some sort of climate change going on. Of course there is - point to any time in history when climate wasn't changing in some way.

    It's a giant step, however, to assert that this is ipso facto the result of something humans did/are doing AND that whatever is happening is neither cyclical and/or beyond the bounds of what the system can rebound from.

    Two 'warming' fallacies:
    It was 75 degrees two hours ago, 82 one hour ago, and nearly 90 now. By that measure, by tomorrow it's going to be boiling hot outside!
    It was cool this morning. Then THREE of my neighbors started up their lawnmowers, and now it's starting to get freaking warm. I'm going to have to tell them to stop mowing their lawns because it's clearly causing it to get hot outside.

    (...and while you might want to point to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Satellite_Temperatures.png (30 year data) and even http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png (2000-year data) to illustrate that there really IS warming; I'd point to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:All_palaeotemps.png as a record going back 500 MILLION years illustrating that our current temps are actually fairly COOL compared to history, and that both the recent and archaic records point to radical climate changes over short periods REPEATEDLY in global climate history.)

    It's warming. Yep, I agree.
    This will result in a rough ride weather wise both for summers and winters.
    Good thing we're the most adaptable creature on the planet. Too bad the polar bears may just turn back into bears tho, they look cool white.

    Still think Al Gore's a self-promoting dick, tho.

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  5. The Only Way To Make It Undeniable... by damn_registrars · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ... would be if Bill Clinton came forward and said either that he created it (while getting a BJ from a staffer) or that he doesn't believe in it. Even then, Ronald Reagan would have to rise up from the dead and state his full unwavering support of the matter before everyone on the right would start believing.

    Until that point, conservatives who choose to keep their fingers squarely in their ears over any data related to global warming will continue to do so, fueled in part by their undying hatred of all things Clinton.

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  6. Re:More Info & Dashboard by Obfuscant · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    No one's advocating immediate and drastic measures. You could ration gasoline and electricity.

    As a user of both electricity and gasoline, I'd call that both drastic and, if it is done soon, immediate.

    Cutting CO2 emissions back to 1970 levels (or whatever year it happens to be) is drastic. Invoking drastic taxes (euphemistically called "cap and trade") would be drastic by definition.

    If there is "convincing evidence", there must have been a valid experiment to provide it. Which earth was used to change the levels of CO2 and leave all the other factors constant to measure the actual effect of CO2 on temperature?

    Hell, if anything, that is being advocated may be too little too late.

    Hell, anything that is being advocated may be meaningless and have no effect at all.

  7. Re:This research is FALSE! by tuxgeek · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Part of the problem with intelligent debate is people like you that don't have the capacity to understand the subject at hand, But still insist in participating in the discussion.

    The topic at hand is not future predictions of what the weather will do, but past observations of weather trends.

    Simply put for dolts like you:
    Past weather trends based upon observations taken over the past 100 years show our planet is gradually warming. Our climate is changing in ways we do not understand yet, but could lead to melting polar ice caps, rising sea levels and even droughts. The pattern is unpredictable. But the data points to a conclusion that we are changing our weather patterns.

    This is probably too much for you right now, so go back to the cartoon channel and your bong.

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  8. Re:More Info & Dashboard by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I've heard the same argument before. Sounded something like this ...

    Unless you've been raped, you have no business telling me about rape.

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  9. Re:More Info & Dashboard by Shakrai · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Even if it is 100% caused by man I don't see what they expect us to do about it. Given the choice between civilization and some abstract harm to people they don't know, most people are going to go with civilization.....

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