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China's Firewall Stymies Google; Users Confused

eldavojohn writes "Massive confusion occurred last night for Google's Chinese search engine and ad services when Google's automated reporting system claimed that everything was blocked in China. The problem was that most users experienced no outage despite Google's reports and Google has backpedaled on those reports. Google explained that their tool for detecting blockage is not 'real-time': 'Because of the way we measure accessibility in China, it's possible that our machines could overestimate the level of blockage. That seems to be what happened last night when there was a relatively small blockage. It appears now that users in China are accessing our properties normally.' The WSJ blogger notes, 'Beijing may not need to cancel Google's license. Death by a thousand disruptions could be just as effective.'"

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  1. Re:This is bad for China. by yog · · Score: 3, Informative

    You clearly didn't read the links in the summary, which in itself provides little information. There's confusion and inconsistency in Google's .cn sites. Some users, especially in Beijing, have reported outages, and others have not. The bottom line is that some unknown factors or persons are causing performance and uptime problems with Google properties within the China firewall. You can choose to define it as a "hiccup" but that's a bit of a leap at this point. If you have information to share, I'd like to see it.

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  2. Re:This is bad for China. by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Funny

    *Perks up*

    What's this? China is mentioned on a slashdot article! Oh boy! I've been saving up a nice big rant-post since the last article, keeping it on my desktop so I can copy and paste the very second this moment comes up! People will be in awe and wonder about how much I have the world political perspective in such a clear and defined view. I shall be modded to infinite and beyond!

    Oh... Wait... Not relevant? Damn.

  3. Huh? by Guspaz · · Score: 2, Informative

    Death by a thousand disruptions could be just as effective

    What disruption? The service continued to work fine. It was only the status page that reported it was down, which doesn't actually impact the service.

  4. Re:This is bad for China. by tokul · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Even worse, the jingoistic nationalism which pervades any discussion of international events--the official media's constant portrayal of the Western powers led by the USA as the evil imperialists of the 19th Century,

    Some American said "But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." Don't judge or condemn political structure used in other country. After all only democrats used a-bomb in anger and last American military campaigns toppled governments of two independent countries.

  5. Re:This is bad for China. by yog · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who cares about mod points? I like to look at the big picture, and to me the main point of these continuing problems for Google in China is that China is shooting itself in the foot. What a pity that you can't or won't discuss the issues at hand and prefer to merely mock others who do. It's also a pity that some moderators actually found your rant funny while dismissing my ideas as off topic. Slashdot as a forum to discuss anything but the latest chips and copyright wars continues to fall flat.

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  6. Re:This is bad for China. by russotto · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Some American said "But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." Don't judge or condemn political structure used in other country.

    Tyranny is tyranny, and deserves condemnation whether the tyrant is named George, Kim, or Wu. Your quote speaks to toleration of religious belief by another individual, not cultural relativism.

    and last American military campaigns toppled governments of two independent countries.

    That was, after all, one of their objectives.