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What's Wrong With the American University System

ideonexus writes "The Atlantic has an excellent interview with Andrew Hacker — co-author with Claudia Dreifus of a book titled Higher Education? — covering everything that's wrong with the American university system. The discussion ranges from entrenched tenured professors more concerned with publishing and parking spaces than quality teaching; to 22-year-old students with unrealistic expectations that some company will put them in a management position after graduating with six-figures of debt; to football teams siphoning money away from academic programs so that student tuitions must increase to compensate. It really lays out the farce of university culture and reminds me of everything I absolutely despised about my college life. Dreifus is active in the comments section of the article as well, lending to a fantastic discussion on the subject."

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  1. Re:That it's required for most employment these da by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Most of the time its a HR drone who thinks that PHP is some kind of street name for a drug

    PHP is a gateway language, it's easy to start with but before you know it you're hooked on Python, C, Java, and even worse. I get the shakes now if I don't use Perl every few hours. PHP ruined my life man.

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  2. Re:In defense of football by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, because that wasn't a mistake. It was an indication that I went through 12 years of primary and secondary education, 4 years of undergraduate work, and 6 years on a Masters and a Ph.D. and was never once told the difference between "Your" and "You're." Until you came along and enlightened me just now, I was ignorant and lost. A lot of people would have just assumed that it was a mistake--but not you. You, and only you, realized that I needed the grammatical guidance of a kind scholar like yourself. You stepped forward, ignoring the citics who would dismiss you as a smug grammar Nazi, and said "No, I will not allow him to remain ignorant!"

    Thank you, sir! Thank you!

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  3. Re:In defense of football by fishexe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Guess "YOU'RE" college didn't require Freshman English.

    Go easy on him. He was probably a football player.

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  4. Re:But put this in pespective by Palestrina · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sir, I defer to your greater experience in this matter.

  5. Re:And yet- by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lol, could you say that again please? I love how you pronounce "moot."

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  6. Re:But put this in pespective by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2, Funny

    petty politics, sucking up to superiors, back stabbing and arguing over parking spots

    I'm pretty sure fluffers have to deal with that to.

    Especially the sucking up to superiors.

  7. Re:And yet- by Eudial · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ah, but the difference between traveling to other countries and traveling to the US is that you have to go through American airport security. You have to really want to enter the country to voluntarily do that.

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  8. Re:And yet- by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Funny

    Damn you and your logic. I'll just pretend I didn't hear that the US has ~25% of the world's best universities by turning-up Rachel Maddow extra loud.

    Ahhh.

    Better. Yes, yes Rachel the US is the most background nation in the world. And the colleges suck. You preach it girl!

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  9. Re:In defense of football by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I see your snark and raise a Preview button.

  10. Re:And yet- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I know. It's "could of". Moron.

  11. Re:And yet- by Gilmoure · · Score: 2, Funny

    In Soviet U.S., airport security enters you!

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  12. Re:And yet- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The punchline is that Canadians pronouce "moot" the same as Americans pronouce "whoosh".

    Say it out loud 9 or 10 times for your coworkers. Trust me, they'll laugh.

  13. Re:And yet- by SomeKDEUser · · Score: 3, Funny

    The fascinating thing is that the result of the American system, where apparently one is taught to hug trees (according to you) is that Americans are impermeable to the reality of global warming, whereas in the rest of the world, everyone is pretty much convinced...

    From which we must conclude that the system is so disastrous it can't even indoctrinate properly.

  14. Re:A holdover from the days of royalty and privile by Douchey · · Score: 2, Funny

    Right on man, screw english and art! what good ever came from studying either of those subjects?

  15. Re:And yet- by Sean0michael · · Score: 2, Funny

    But then there's typically a good 30-40 year delay between actual achievement and Nobel prize.

    This is true, though sometimes it takes even longer. In a recent case, it took Barack Obama 48 years to win a prize for being born.

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