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$200B Lost To Counterfeiting? Back It Up

An anonymous reader writes "Over the weekend, the NY Times ran a story about how the recession has impacted product counterfeiters. In it, the reporter regurgitates the oft-repeated claim that counterfeiting 'costs American businesses an estimated $200 billion a year.' Techdirt's Mike Masnick asks the Times reporter to back up that assertion, noting two recent reports (by the GAO and the OECD) that suggest the actual number is much lower, and quoting two reporters who have actually looked at the numbers and found (a) the real number is probably less than $5 billion, and (b) the $200 billion number can be traced back to a totally unsourced (read: made-up) magazine claim from two decades ago."

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  1. Not surprising by lyinhart · · Score: 3, Informative

    Oft quoted as the "paper of record", the Times has a history of faking it.

    Seriously though, estimating losses due to piracy/counterfeiting is always dodgy since it assumes that a certain number of people would have bought the real deal had the fake stuff not been available.

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  2. Re:The obligatory Obama comment by WillDraven · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well then why didn't you reply to it? Oh, wait, it isn't there. I expanded all the comments and ctrl+f'ed Obama, the only three instances were in your post..

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  3. Re:Counterfeiting is Ok. by copponex · · Score: 5, Informative

    The difference is between effective government and ineffective government, not the ability of a government to provide a just society. Hang on, I'll put it simply: you need to learn more than what your daddy told you. It's a big, big world out there.

    Let's look at two modern western nations and see what the results are:

    USA vs Norway

    GDP per Capita (World Bank)
    Norway: $55,000
    USA: $46,000

    Life Expectancy
    Norway: 80 years
    USA: 78.2 years

    Poverty Rates
    Norway: 7%
    USA: 12%

    Employment Rates:
    Norway: 3.5% (April 2010)
    USA: 8% (April 2010)

    Income Inequality (Lower is Better)
    Norway: 25.8
    USA: 40.8

    Vacation Time
    Norway: 25 days
    USA: 14 days

    Awww boo. Reality is a bitch, ain't it?