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Artist Photoshops Scenes From WWII Into Present Day

Russian photographer Sergey Larenkov has taken old World War II photos and photoshopped them over the locations in present day. The scenes from places like Prague, Vienna, and Moscow are incredibly well done and a neat way to appreciate history.

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  1. Very thought-provoking. by jbarr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's a great way to remember past events by envisioning them through today's eye. Very cool.

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    1. Re:Very thought-provoking. by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      With the way technology is going I imagine we're not far from an augmented reality app that would be able to overlay/blend pictures like this into live footage and display it. How eerie would that be ?

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  2. Very interesting by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is probably the most interesting use of photoshoping I've seen yet. By seeing the conditions of the streets and buildings merged straight into modern times, you really get a sense of how war-torn the world was at the time.

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    1. Re:Very interesting by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree, great idea, but he's not very good at photoshop. Most slashdotters probably have the skills to do better. Although we usually use ours to edit walrus's into various hilarious positions.

    2. Re:Very interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just because it's easy, doesn't mean the value as art is any less potent.

    3. Re:Very interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      MBGMorden said "This is probably the most interesting use of photoshoping I've seen yet".

      So I don't know where you get off saying "Not really." on someone's opinion, as it's not stated as fact.

      I agree with MBGMorden in the fact that the images, although maybe in your opinion, are not the most technically advanced computer manipulated images, do instill within me a feeling of realism of WW2 for myself. It's hard for me to look at a BnW image of a photograph in the 1940's and feel some sort of realism to it. Imposing them into modern images instills within me a sense of realism, of which I am appreciative.

    4. Re:Very interesting by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The difference between a master and an amateur is not the technical skill, but the emotional content of the works. People can study Vermeer's brushstrokes or Ansel Adams' exposure techniques all they want, but it won't make them into their role models.

      Same here. What makes this awesome isn't the user's technical competency of an image editing software. It's the fact that the images created are a powerful reminder of how recent WW2 was, and how little separates us now from them then.

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    5. Re:Very interesting by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know who's dumber, the AC or the people modding him up. In the first place, changing the base photos from color to monochrome would completely violate and nullify the artistic integrity of the images. The whole aesthetic point is that the past images are ghosts, and the monochromatic color palette is the indicator of that status. If you reduced everything to that level, the past portions would cease to be 'special' and would exude less, if any, otherworldly incongruence which is contrasted to the structural congruence of the image as setting/composition. Go back to art class.

      Secondly, denigrating the technical simplicity of the task is really uncalled for. It doesn't matter that it is technically rather simple to perform, many great works of art are not necessarily difficult in technique, but their value comes from the unique and meaningful perspective of the artist. In this particular case, I have to say that these are some of the most inspired, evocative, and meaningful photo manipulations I have ever seen or am ever likely to see. I care not for how relatively difficult they may or may not have been to produce.

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    6. Re:Very interesting by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wouldn't even call this photoshopping. All he did was take a photo at the same angle and then use a mask to show various parts.

      Either with lenses with the exact same distortion or correcting for the distortion in the old photo, new photo, or both. And making sure the scale is exactly right for both images.

      Even just finding the exact positioning for the camera to produce the proper alignment is a challenge, especially if it has to be taken with the camera in the middle of modern traffic, or if the terrain has changed enough that you can't stand there anymore.

      In practice, you'll have to make lots of adjustments in post just to get the images aligned properly even if you do get the modern photo taken from the right position with the right angle.

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    7. Re:Very interesting by sznupi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hm, js app, with a slider, to transition between two images & with some areas of each image (people for example) given early prominence during transition to "their" version of the photo? Sound like something a slashdotter could do... ;)

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    8. Re:Very interesting by rident · · Score: 3, Informative

      Agreed, the message is more important. Also I'm all for mad digital photo editing skills but the process of recreating the exact angles from the WWII photos isn't exactly quick or easy either. This project either involved lots of measuring or lots of trial and error.

    9. Re:Very interesting by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A lot seperates us between now and then. Countless dead, every family across the planet touched by it. Nobody on this planet has a family that was untouched by that war. Absolutely Everyone lost someone in that war.

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    10. Re:Very interesting by Kirijini · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Disclaimer: I'm not defending the GP.

      It doesn't matter that it is technically rather simple to perform, many great works of art are not necessarily difficult in technique, but their value comes from the unique and meaningful perspective of the artist. In this particular case, I have to say that these are some of the most inspired, evocative, and meaningful photo manipulations I have ever seen or am ever likely to see.

      Perhaps this is most meaningful photo-manipulation you'll ever see... but I really doubt that's true. The photoshopping here is amateurish, and a detriment, I think, to what could be a very powerful set of artwork. Had the artist managed to blend together the photographs to create a single imagine, rather than two rather obviously layered images, the "ghosts of the past" effect would be much more striking. The artist could have conveyed much more subtle and penetrating messages.

      Take this image for example. The impact here is seeing these WWII soldiers walking down an otherwise modern street. A technically proficient photo editor would not have, for example, cut off the legs of the foremost soldier, nor allowed the soldiers in the distance to the right fade out. On top of that, I think it would have been much more striking if the present showed through the past as well - the soldiers on the sidewalk passing by modern road signs, for instance. A similar kind of modification would have transformed this image from intriguing to shocking. The image that comes closest to successfully blending the past and present is this image, except for the tree on the right that fazes out, and the poor blending with the sky.

      On the other hand, this image came very close to being absolutely striking, but the decision to partially fade out the car the soldiers are walking by is a tragic mistake. If the car were fully present, the soldiers would look like they were walking around the cars in the parking lot - conveying a powerful message that we tend to move history around our conveniences, rather than respect the weight of the ages. Similarly, this image would have been visually and emotionally arresting, if the artist had been willing to let the flag poles stay in the foreground rather than blend away and back again; and had taken more care with the soldier's legs, and the hard edges in between the second and third pole.

      As they are now, these photographs do draw attention to the history of places, and are a worth a look. They are not, however, art-gallery material. And the key difference is not the artistic ambition, but the lack of technical ambition.

      Naturally, this is all my artistic opinion, and I understand that we might have different tastes. I just want to emphasize that technical proficiency , or lack thereof, can make or break art... and I think it broke it in this case. If this artist is comfortable handing his work off to a master printmaker, I think this body of work could turn into something really powerful.

      Here is an example of some less serious but way better done manipulations of historic photos. Seriously, check this stuff out.

    11. Re:Very interesting by hexmem · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I completely agree with you. I absolutely love the concept this artist has done. But I would not buy and hang one of these pictures in my home because it looks like he spent a whole 2 minutes blending the images together.

  3. Re:Very well done? REALLY? by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The point was to look at place years after they had been destroyed and to contrast the iece of history with now. NOT to make it seem like it's happening right now.

    Seriously, get with it.

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  4. Try in b&w by sznupi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Gets really quite eerie when the pictures are displayed in a software capable of switching to greyscale. Not "better" of course, the contrast was surely also the point...but interesting, more blended.

    Though it does make the photos more distant, I guess - doesn't help with how, while being a small kid, I thought for some time that the world had to be so sad place in the past, without colors ;) (I apparently missed the existence of color paintings/etc.; and, in retrospect, wasn't very wrong; in some twisted way...)

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  5. Re:Very well done? REALLY? by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Spoken like someone who has never created a work of art. There is more value there than the technical expertise require to create it, just like there is more value to a painting than the technical expertise of the paint strokes.

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  6. This is just a small sampling... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  7. Re:Brillant! by GooberToo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wouldn't think any American under maybe 75 could relate to WWII

    Those over the age of thirty have a much better chance of relating to the technology base. As someone else pointed out, it was a lot easier to talk with someone who was actually in those wars. Likewise, many more civilians were also private pilots. Many of the instructors were war pilots - or at least someone you stand a chance of bumping into at the airport.

    These days, the number of WWII vets who are still alive are quickly dwindling. Which is why there are active projects to record their stories. Unfortunately, it doesn't change the fact, that in an era of endless plentiful, most American's can not begin to appreciate the sacrifices even the civilians made to further the war effort.

    My statement was not made to be snide and no, I didn't arbitrarily adjust the age; though low 30-ish is likely more accurate now. That's the age most studies indicates a rapid falloff takes place in awareness of those wars and the associated technology base.

  8. Re:Locations by strupet · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hei!

    sergeylarenkov000.jpg (3rd photo) is Hofburg in Vienna, Austria ->http://goo.gl/M7r8
    sergeylarenkov11.jpg (11th photo) is Paulanergasse in Vienna ->http://goo.gl/GDJ2 (right next to the TU Wien)

    one of the others seems to me like Budapest, Hungary - but i'm not sure.

    Greetings from Vienna!

    ßeta

  9. Re:Brillant! by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm only 27, and my maternal grandfather was a WW2 vet, but he was really reticent about discussing his experiences. The only stories he would ever tell me were pretty tame anecdotes about a few humorous events. I think the gruesome things that he saw in terms of blown up, mangled corpses were not only painful for him to recall but I think he thought it was in poor taste to talk about those things. I don't begrudge him his perspective.

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  10. Your right by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I lived near "A bridge to far" and in some movies, that is very eary. You realize your house is one of the landing fields. But then, I used to often go past a spot in the woods were if you went of the bicycle path a little bit, down, there was a small monument were people were killed by the germans.

    If a german asks the way, I point them in the wrong direction. It is how I was raised. I might be silly after so many decades, but it is better then forgetting.

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  11. Retouching by wayward_bruce · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It should be worth noting that the "photoshopping" means using Adobe Photoshop. Retouching is the word for a general process of photo modification regardless of the software used. In short, every time someone says "photoshopped", they are advertising Adobe Photoshop for no compensation. :)

  12. Re:Very well done? REALLY? by denzacar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The problem is that the fading between the two photos seems haphazard. I understand that the point of the photos is to show the contrast between the two time periods. As such, you want it to be clear that there are two photos being overlaid. However it just looks weird to have, for example, people be half-erased. The artist could have instead defined a blending edge that didn't cut across any people (or cars, etc.) so that each sub-region of the image looked fully-formed and thus more real. I think this would have made the effect more powerful.

    Exactly!

    Almost any one of those "then and now" photos where people hold up an old photo of a location while taking a photo of it now beat this collection in every aspect possible.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tinflower/3611307186/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/uwgbadmissions/3947916581/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/uwgbadmissions/3768986885/in/set-72157621758292209/

    Those have both an artistic AND journalistic feel to them.
    The fact that you see the hand holding the photo actually connects you the viewer (cause it is seen from your perspective - as if it is your own hand), the person taking the photo (cause he/she is right there in the photo) and the location in both past and present.

     
    The way those photos in the article are done now the final result just seems lazy.
    Slap two photos of the same location one on top of the other, and then run around the edges with an eraser tool. Ta-DAH!

    No skill, no art - just a gimmick that was old back in the '90s.

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  13. Actually... No. by denzacar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Despite the lack of technical skill, the artist achieved the goal of having me feel that I was standing in another's shoes.

    I am guessing here, but I am quite certain that you were actually moved by the original art and authenticity of the old photos he picked for their "power".

    Kinda like how an old song sung by an "American Idol" star doesn't get better - it was good to begin with. At best, it will be "OK". At worst... well...
    And it works the same way for "professionals" too.

    And no amount of hardware can make an artist out of a hack. Particularly not a tablet in this case.
    To fix those, one would need to use some actual elbow grease PLUS something the "artist" clearly lacks - the eye of a photographer.
    Cause those photos he used are not photographs. Those are snapshots.

    Not a single impressive point in any of them. They are completely expressionless and "dead".
    Why? Cause he was taking photos of dead things - buildings. Whoever was taking those old photos was taking photos of living people.
    Living people doing "important things". Meaningful things. Things worth being preserved for posterity.

    In the new photos people are there simply by accident. Utterly meaningless and completely unmotivated.
    Those photos don't contrast - they clash.

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  14. Re:Brillant! by mikael_j · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, I'm in my mid-late twenties and all my grandparents are/were old enough to remember the war years but the most I've ever heard about it from any of them was my paternal grandfather mentioning how everything was rationed. Of course, he was only in his teens at the time, wasn't like he was a soldier or anything...

    (Please note: I'm european so my perspective might be a bit different, I've been a student at a university where to this day there are visible signs of the fighting (bullet and shrapnel damage on the walls) that I would walk by practically every day and my history lessons in grade school were with a german woman who told us stories of how terrified she was when the apartment building she lived in got hit by allied bombs while she was hiding in the basement and how the civilian population in Germany experienced the war)

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  15. Re:Locations by kenner116 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Almost half of these photos are in St. Petersburg. The building with the golden dome next to the anti-aircraft gun is Saint Isaac's Cathedral. The tank driving under an arch with a column in the background is near the Hermitage and Palace Square. The next photo has the Kazan Cathedral, and the photo after that looks like St. Pete, but I'm not certain. The photo with soldiers marching with the river on the right has the Peter and Paul Fortress in the background. The following photo with the kids in the street has the Russian Admiralty building in the background. A couple of others (soldiers marching with river on left and the next one with the Jazz Philharmonic sign) also look a lot like St. Pete.