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Oscilloscopes For Modern Engineers?

Every few years someone asks this community for advice on oscilloscopes. Reader dawning writes "I've just graduated with a degree in Computer Engineering (and did a Comp Sci one while I was at it) and I'm finding myself woefully under-equipped to do some great hardware projects. I'm in major need of a good oscilloscope. I'm willing to put down $2,000 for a decent one, but there are several options and they all seem so archaic and limited. I'm happy to use something that must be controlled through a PC if that gives me more measuring features. What would you, my esteemed Slashdot colleagues, get for yourself?"

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  1. You got $2000, you say? Okay. by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 0, Flamebait
  2. Re:An old Tektronix is fine for a modern engineer by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    But the waveform itself is only one part of the picture(if you don't know whether a convincing logic 1 in the waveform is supposed to be a logic 0, that's why I mentioned BER capability. Those features are invaluable for computer and communications engineers.

    Oh, shit. I just read the summary. 2-grand budget. Guess submitter could just grab a couple of Mexicans from Home Depot and give them a steel cable plugged into into a high-voltage residential transformer modulated by the original signal.

  3. Re:Kazkek by SupplyMission · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Listen, you Labview fan boy, I am not smoking crack. (Although I will admit it: Labview makes me wish I was a toothless meth addict, hitting rock bottom, giving blowjobs to married, middle-aged closeted gay men in a movie theater for drug money.)

    I spent more than 10 minutes learning that crap. More than a few weeks in fact. I got to know some Labview tech support "engineers" by name. The problem, I later realized, was that I knew exactly what I wanted the hardware to do, except I had to jump through all kinds of Labview hoops to get there. In C or C++, I could have had the majority of the hard parts done in a few days, and then polish up the details. Not so in Labview.

    Ever try to force yourself to do something the hard way, when you know there is a much easier way to do it? Ever try to pee sitting down when you're a few pints in, and you really have to go? That's what working with Labview is like -- it will block your peehole until you are calmly sitting on the toilet like a good boy. If you are a girl it will make you pee standing up through one of those cardboard funnels.

    Let's look at what you'd have to spend to get a hardware and software package that lets you look at signals at 10MHz.

    Here is the "Buy Labview" (a.k.a. get raped in the ass with a cactus branch) web page:

    http://www.ni.com/labview/buy/

    I could go with Labview Base or Labview Full, but since I want to deploy stuff to customers' machines without forcing them to buy Labview, I'm going to go with Labview Professional for US$4299, although I should probably go for NI Developer Suite for US$4699 because it's the "best value."

    Next, I want to sample at 10MHz or greater. In 5 minutes of searching, these are the only products that I could find, that will let me do that. Note that these both have a maximum rate of 10MHz; there don't seem to be NI products that can go higher.

    • PXI-6115 for US$4199, or if we go with the "NI recommended" version, US$5249
    • PCI-6115 which is just the PCI bus version of the PXI-6115, for US$3799, or US$4849 for the "NI recommended" version

    If you go with the PCI version, you will need a PC with some pretty good horsepower to handle the 10MHz data stream. This may add an extra $1000 or $2000 to your total price.

    If you go with the PXI version, then bend over and grab your ankles again, for into your bleeding rectum NI shall happily insert a well-lubricated PXI chassis of your choice, for an additional few thousands of $$$.

    Add in all taxes and other costs (shipping, and oh yeah, $600 cables, anybody??) and it's pretty damn near $10k if not well above. Just for the privilege of writing multi-colored spaghetti code in order to make your measurements.

    In conclusion, it is better to just get a real 60MHz digital scope for a few grand. Labview treats intelligent humans like dogs.