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Building the Zero-Fatality Car

CWmike writes "In the future, new cars might include an appealing sticker: 'This car is rated for zero fatalities.' John Brandon reports that Volvo, for instance, has launched a program called Vision 2020, which states, 'By 2020, nobody shall be seriously injured or killed in a new Volvo.' It includes not just new protective measures in the car, but technology for communicating dangers to and from the car. Other car companies have similar, less formalized programs. As ambitious as it seems, Ed Kim, an analyst at automotive research firm AutoPacific, says the zero-fatality goal is achievable. In the next 10 years, there will be a confluence of safety technologies — such as road-sign recognition, pedestrian detection and autonomous car controls — that lead to safer cars, says Kim. Will your next car look something like this?"

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  1. There is no zero by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Zero is a figment of your imagination. You can only ever approach it, more and more expensively.

  2. Auto-car. by Seumas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm really interested in the promise of an automated car that you don't have to get a license for or actually drive. They would be inherently safer, even taking failures into consideration. Of course, this will never fly (in America, at least) because we have this mentality that we need to be actively behind the wheel of a six ton three-story tall truck with twelve wheels, wider than two lanes of traffic, with a pair of truck-nuts dangling off the back. To pick our snot-nosed kids up from the grade school.

    1. Re:Auto-car. by confused+one · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's funny... All the people who've caused accidents I was involved in were young.

    2. Re:Auto-car. by gemtech · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Didn't you mean to state:
      Most people should not be driving. Period.
      ?

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    3. Re:Auto-car. by germansausage · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I realize this is slightly offtopic, and I agree that an automated car might sometimes do the opposite of what the driver wants. However, with respect to the ABS I'll say this. You need to learn how to drive with the ABS on. This is not a skill you already have, and learning it in an emergency situation... well, you know how that ended up. The whole point of ABS is that you can apply maximum braking power and still steer the car. Next time it snows, go find an empty parking lot and go nuts with the ABS. A good, "aware and in tune with his car", driver will master controlled panic stops (nice oxmoron eh..) in about 5 minutes. Added bonus, this is a lot of fun.

      Anecdote: The first year the Calgary police bought cars with ABS they cracked up twice as many in one winter as the cars without ABS. As soon as the ABS started vibrating the pedal the cops backed off on the brakes and smacked into whatever they were trying to avoid. Once they added ABS practice to the emergency driving training the accident rate went down to where the ABS cars had only half as many accidents as the non-ABS cars.

    4. Re:Auto-car. by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To be blunt, you have trouble with automated cars because you are a bad driver.

      Note that when I say "bad", I'm referring to your judgement, not your skill.

      The fact that you are regularly bumping up against the limits of your vehicle means that you're driving too fast, following too closely, and merging with too little margin.

      Eventually, you will screw up, and when you do you'll cause a lot of damage because you have left very little margin for safety.

      You are driving on public roads with other drivers, many of whom are unpredictable and far less skilled than you. This does not give you a license to drive aggressively - indeed, it mandates that you drive defensively to mininize the risks.

      Go show off your skills at autocross or the track. Do everything you can to avoid using those skills on the highway.

  3. Impossible everywhere but in PRspeak by complacence · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The zero-fatality car is stationary and has no passenger or pilot space.

  4. Sounds like zero-vulnerability network security by The_Wilschon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The way to achieve perfect security for a computer is unplug it from the network, and never turn it on. I guess the only way to prevent anyone from ever dying in a new Volvo is to prevent them from entering it...

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  5. So what happens when... by Timothy+Brownawell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...a semi truck falls off of an overpass and lands on top of one?

    ...a semi truck going 200mph the other direction crosses the median?

    ...a semi truck going 200mph on the other road runs a red light?

    ...that logging truck in front of you loses its cargo?

    ...that banana truck in front of you loses its cargo, and sends you through the guardrail?

    ...you run out of gas while crossing the train tracks?

    ...some idiot leaves their kids in one with windows up for "just a couple minutes" during the middle of summer?

    ...someone decides to carjack you?

  6. Zero fatality car... by AhabTheArab · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is that something like the unsinkable Titanic?

  7. Re:In a Volvo? by Deag · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well your old car might look like it comes off better than the volvo. But likely your V8 engine will end up up crushing you while the volvo will crumble everywhere but the passenger compartment.

  8. Re:What? by Moryath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Remember the fundamental law of the universe.

    Just when you think you have idiot-proofed something, Nature will design a better idiot just to spite you.

    Thus the reason we have to have instructions printed on a package of toothpicks, and my clothes iron has a tag on the power cord saying "warning: do not iron clothes while wearing them."

    Pretty much anything on this list.

    I'm waiting for Idiocracy to occur. After all, we already have "Ow, My Balls" on TV - ABC just calls it "Wipeout."

  9. Re:In a Volvo? by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually 4 wheels aren't necessary; 2 will suffice.

    However studies show that 4 wheels do tend to degrade operator attentiveness much more than 2 wheels do. Motorcyclists usually focus better on the task at hand (i.e. operating the motorcycle) than automobilists do, because they have fewer things such as passengers, radios/CD/MP3 players, heating/cooling systems, phones, computers, etc. to distract them from it. They also get direct feedback (in terms of wind, seeing the pavement rush past their feet, etc.) of how fast they're going, which helps in making judgments about (for example) how much to brake before making a turn. The more that vehicles mask the vehicle's speed from the operator (smoother ride, better soundproofing, etc), the more dangerous they become.

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