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Web-Based Private File Storage?

steve802 writes "Recently, someone died in our company, and word is getting around that the admins who were given access to his Outlook account have found personal things that are embarrassing at best (the rumor mill differs on what was found). No matter, it raises a question. I have personal stuff in Outlook folders that I would not want someone in IT to see if I suddenly dropped dead: emails to the wife, photos of the kids, that kind of thing. I also keep a journal at home that I save to a server; personal reflections that I never want anyone else to see, especially if I die. So I was thinking that some sort of web-based storage for files, individual emails, and perhaps even Outlook folders would be perfect. All my most private personal stuff in one place. I found CryptoHeaven, which seems to offer some of what I'm looking for — but it is pricey. I'm willing to pay, but something less than $400/year would be nice. Best would be a service with a dead-man's switch, so that if I don't access it in, say, three months, it auto-purges. Any thoughts?"

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  1. Separate them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dont use personal info on work systems. Often time anything in there is usually subject to scrutiny.

    1. Re:Separate them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Absolutely. Never, never, never, never use your employer's computers for personal stuff. At all. Period. That computer is your employer's, and anything you put on it is also his. Whether that is strictly, legally true is immaterial. In practical terms, it is.

      You keep personal reflections in a journal that you never want anyone else to read, ever? Then, don't write it down. Duh. Anything you really don't want your survivors to ever under any circumstances see--physically destroy it. Don't have physical access? Oh, well.

      Assume that anything you write down, especially if you store it on someone else's computer, will be read by someone, probably the owner of the computer. If it's on your own computer, it becomes your wife or childs computer when you die. Anything you left there is theirs.

      Don't want to take this advice? Don't come crying to me if, after you die, somebody sees something you didn't want them to.

  2. Work account? by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Solution: Don't do personal stuff on your work account...

    1. Re:Work account? by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Pay for a virtual private server somewhere. Tie it to a credit card or some payment method that you need to keep paying. You die? Payments don't get made, hosting provider nukes the virtual machine after X days for non-payment.

    2. Re:Work account? by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have a better, more perfect solution.

      Don't die.

      (in the unlikely event that you do die, ask yourself a question: "why do you give a fuck what anybody finds out about you? Really?")

  3. Whats the surprise? by mschoolbus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They can already read your emails..

  4. Why? by quarkoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've got to ask the question, but... why?

    I mean, if you don't want anybody to find this stuff when you're dead, why bother collecting it when you're alive?

    And for the 'pictures' of the wife, what's wrong with a Truecrypt store?

    1. Re:Why? by stdarg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      After he's dead, he still doesn't want people to know because it'll reflect badly on him and make people he's close to feel bad or uncomfortable?

      I mean just because you'll be dead doesn't mean that you, now, alive, can't think of other people's feelings and how future revelations will affect them.

  5. Completely Disagree by TehZorroness · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When you die, your writings and works are the only thing left of you. They are the only way for someone to try to dig deeper into your mind and build up an understanding of your true character. A lot of crazy shit happens in a lifetime, someone may really appreciate you leaving a book of your reflections behind.

    1. Re:Completely Disagree by Angst+Badger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When you die, your writings and works are the only thing left of you. They are the only way for someone to try to dig deeper into your mind and build up an understanding of your true character.

      Thanks, but I don't owe that to anyone. Period. The very thought of someone having unrestricted access to my private writings makes me feel physically ill. And it's not because I have any unusual skeletons in my closet, it's because that access would be a total violation of my personal boundaries. You're welcome to what I choose to share while I'm alive, and I share quite a bit, but I don't belong to you or anyone else. Quite frankly, I like the idea that I'll be completely erased by death. Having spent my entire life with claims placed upon me by family, employers, government agencies, creditors, and countless social organizations, it is no small comfort to know that something will escape the insatiable demands of my fellow man.

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  6. Discretion? by Xacid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm kind of surprised I haven't seen any comments on the bigger issue - the IT folks entrusted with this data who let data leak (or at least rumors of the content). As a system admin - if you're at that level you're already not trustworthy enough to keep that postion and would probably be reassigned depending on the severity. Understandably if it's something illegal then it needs to be report it but even still - discretion is still required. It's no one else's damned business.

    Compare this to your HR person - would you like them to spill your SSN randomly here and there? Just because the guy is dead doesn't mean his data requires less care.

    Anywho - as far as technical solutions 1) don't put personal stuff on a work computer, 2) even some web space and an ftp account should be nearly sufficient if you just need a place to store files remotely that isn't easily accessible.

  7. Re:GOOGLE MAIL by icebraining · · Score: 4, Insightful

    WinRAR? Turn over your geek card.

    At least, use gpg to encrypt it and Dropbox to automate uploading/downloading. Bonus points for an automated encryption system (encfs mount point, for example).

  8. Re:Freenet by JumpDrive · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If he really wants to protect it, then he should also encrypt it.
    My brother passed away a couple of years ago and I was able to gain access to his web server. I knew the CC used and the email address used. There wasn't anything on there, but the expected files, but if he wants to keep it secret permanent after death, then encrypt with a long key.

  9. Re:Web-Based Private Is An Oxymoron by spazdor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Web-Based Private is an oxymoron

    Actually, they have this thing, "cryptography" now.

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  10. Re:Encryption by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After 10 unsuccessful attempts at entering the passphrase in a row, it destroys the key, never to be recovered again.

    If I was transporting a copy of the data across national borders, and I didn't want customs to get a copy... a self-destruct sequence makes a lot of sense. But to have a permanent sword of damocles dangling over the data by a thread... If I valued the data so much that I was willing to go to extremes to protect it... and then set it up to be irrevocably trashed that easily... I might as well just delete it now to save myself the aggravation.

  11. Re:Freenet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All this for stuff after you're dead. Who the Hell cares? You're either in heaven, hell, limbo, reincarnated with no knowledge of previous life, or worm food, and in any of those cases you've got bigger things to worry about (or nothing at all ever depending). I can see someone else wanting life insurance on you, but not you wanting it for yourself, since when it gets used you won't care, and that's a much bigger thing than whatever sicko porn collection you happen to have for whatever reason. Your reputation with other people means nothing once you die. Either there's some omnipotent being that already knows all that crap about you, or there isn't and either way, who the hell cares?

  12. Re:Freenet by MoonBuggy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why use TrueCrypt with OS X when you can do the same thing with built-in Disk Utility?

    Cross platform compatibility, source code which can be inspected, and a choice of ciphers and other security options.

  13. Re:Freenet by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because your secrets could possibly affect other people. For example, your wife might not be looked upon too highly if people know that she married a guy that was into some weird fetish. Also, their secrets might be stored with your stuff as well. Those things should not be released.

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