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Schneier's Revised Taxonomy of Social Data

Jamie noted that over at Schneier's blog, he has a worthwhile entry on the data in the social networks. He writes "Lately I've been reading about user security and privacy — control, really — on social networking sites. The issues are hard and the solutions harder, but I'm seeing a lot of confusion in even forming the questions. Social networking sites deal with several different types of user data, and it's essential to separate them."

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  1. Unfortunately by cosm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The unfortunate thing is that Schneier's taxonomic breakdown of data is most likely known by the majority here, and the folks who really need that information conveyed to them (ie mom and pop, aunt velma and her pic's of fluffy, partying cheerleader squad, drunk frat, etc..) will probably never see it, and if they did, they wouldn't understand it, or take heed to its importance even if they did.

    Not to mention large social sites are not really transparent with their collection and retention practices in the first place.

    Cynical, yes. Realistic, perhaps.

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  2. Selling to third parties by whencanistop · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We often don't mind if a site uses it to target advertisements, but are less sanguine when it sells data to third parties.

    Really this is the problem with the whole privacy thing that has caused so much issue in the past. The problem isn't that the company collects the data, it is that they then sell it to third parties to make a profit.

    Similarly if you look at the in depth report that the WSJ published then the real issue isn't the use of cookies or even the collection of the behavioural data - it is that they have then sold out to third parties by either selling the data or allowing them to collect it in the first place (which they can then do whatever they want with).

    1. Re:Selling to third parties by Fnord666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Really this is the problem with the whole privacy thing that has caused so much issue in the past. The problem isn't that the company collects the data, it is that they then sell it to third parties to make a profit.

      One important thing to keep in mind is that the users of these sites are not the customer, they (or at least the data that they generate) are the merchandise.

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  3. When did it stop trickling down? by SomePoorSchmuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The funny thing about Facebook is that it is similar to television: You've been given the impression you're the customer, but you're actually the product being sold to the real customers - advertisers.

    Facebook just takes it another step, because you're voluntarily giving them extensive data about who you are as an individual, as well as involuntarily (or unknowingly for most people) letting the technology create profiles of your browsing habits. If that weren't enough, there is the further twist - at least on TV there are professional artists and actors and creative types who are producing the content you enjoy. On Facebook, the content is created by you and your friends and given away for free to the website owners.

    So all they have to do is create a database infrastructure, then you and your friends come along and do almost all the Data Entry, and while you're doing it they're watching you and adding meta-data to their private database, then they can turn around and sell all the aggregate data to their customers. Profit!

    At the peak of the show "Friends", Jennifer Aniston was getting paid a million dollars for pretending to be Rachel whatsherface for each 30 minute episode. The million dollars ultimately came from advertisers who bought airtime from the network.

    We are now self-creating global databases with billions of entries and in return are getting... the ability to "poke" someone from your 10th grade Health class. Meanwhile, how much money is Google, Facebook, BlackPlanet, etc. making from both the ads already on their sites, and the immediate/future revenue from the data we are giving them?

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