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The Great Typo Hunt

jamie writes "Incensed by a 'no tresspassing' sign, Jeff Deck launched a cross-country trip to right grammatical wrongs. He enlisted a friend, Benjamin D. Herson, and together they erased errant quotation marks, rectified misspellings and cut unnecessary possessive apostrophes. The Great Typo Hunt is the story of their crusade." We have already covered the duo's fight with The National Park Service.

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  1. He would be right at home on slashdot by pgmrdlm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Another grammar Nazi

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    1. Re:He would be right at home on slashdot by Seumas · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let me correct that for you.

      Another grammar Nazi.

    2. Re:He would be right at home on slashdot by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Fucking top-poster

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    3. Re:He would be right at home on slashdot by Rei · · Score: 3, Funny

      Perhaps they could ask The "Blog" of "Unnecessary" Quotation Marks for some locations to fix. ;) My favorites are this and this.

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    4. Re:He would be right at home on slashdot by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I bow to your superior grammar Nazism.

      Well, superiority is one of the things Nazis always go on about....

    5. Re:He would be right at home on slashdot by Abstrackt · · Score: 3, Funny

      Fucking top-poster

      , how do they work?

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  2. Typo or ... by jaymz666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    NPR really needs to learn the difference between a typo (i.e. a slip of the finger) and bad spelling and grammar.

  3. Kind of douchey. by Seumas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Excessive abuse of grammar is frustrating and it can be enjoyable on occasion to correct it, but something about these guys just make me view them as douches. I'm not surprised that it was featured on NPR, of all places.

    Of all the things to obsess over and waste your time "contributing" to in this world, correcting government signs is going to be it? Really?!

    1. Re:Kind of douchey. by MarkGriz · · Score: 5, Informative

      Kind of? More like supremely...

      http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2008/08/22/20080822grammarcops0822.html

      On March 28, while at Desert View Watchtower on the South Rim, they used a white-out product and a permanent marker to deface a sign painted more than 60 years ago by artist Mary Colter. The sign, a National Historic Landmark, was considered unique and irreplaceable, according to Sandy Raynor, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in Phoenix.

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  4. Sigh... by The+Spoonman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Language is about communication, it's not about the RULES of grammar. Yes, we have arbitrarily decided rules as to what gets an apostrophe and how things are spelled and so on...failing to follow this rule or that at any given time doesn't often hinder the communication. If someone says to me "pimipin' ain't easy", I get what they said. I don' t need them make sure they put the "g" on the end or use "isn't" instead of "ain't". Thanks to my abhorently abusive Catholic school education, I still cringe when I see someone's written "Thank's for shopping at our store's!", but I don't feel the need to correct them. That would just be douchey. You know...like these two guys.

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    1. Re:Sigh... by flerchin · · Score: 3, Funny

      What is pimiping?

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    2. Re:Sigh... by clarkkent09 · · Score: 4, Funny

      but it's totally ok to complain about someone who complains about someone who complains about bad grammar.

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  5. Re:Slashdot by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Funny

    Their heads would explode reading Slashdot.

    You loose. Slashdot has it's own set of rules. Besides, you should of said "asplode".

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  6. Re:Slashdot by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can you use the word "whoosh" in a sentence?

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  7. Isn't this a simpler issue? by natehoy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you own a sign, it's yours. You get to alter it, deface it, replace it, do whatever you want with it.

    If you don't own a sign, and don't have permission of the owner or some specific sign-maintaining authority, then altering it is an act of vandalism. Your intent is irrelevant. It's not your sign. Don't like it? Too bad. Offer the sign owner some money to replace the sign with one that is to your liking, and maybe they'll take you up on it.

    There's a really old-looking hand-carved sign at Yellowstone that talks about the dangers of getting too close to critters. IIRC it's near Old Faithful, but it's been about 10 years since I've been there, so my memory might be bad. The wood is well-weathered, the carving is pretty good, and it's obviously a matter of some effort on the part of the park service to preserve it. Unfortunately, it has a single spelling error (reversal of two letters in a word), and there are various correction marks that have been scratched and scrawled into it over the years that really ruin the look of the sign.

    If it's not yours and you haven't been put in charge of maintaining it, keep your markers and tools off it. Please.

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  8. Re:Slashdot by ElKry · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Whoosh", wrote the slashdotter with a smile on his face, feeling superior to the parent poster but slightly uneasy, for he was haunted by the possibility of nourishing a troll instead of educating the masses.

  9. Re:Communication by Phrogman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Like it or not, I can attest to the fact that I often mentally judge someone by their speech if I am talking to them, or by their spelling and punctuation if I am reading their writing. I am sure I am hardly alone. If they lack the ability to compose a coherent sentence, or the decency to use a spell checker, and have no concept of grammatical formations, then I am inclined to judge them as uneducated, ignorant or ill-informed, and I tend to disregard whatever it was that they were trying to communicate. Now, I grant you that sometimes one might type "Pimpin' ain't easy" for the effect - but the intention is to imply someone who is a lower-class, uneducated and possibly not very bright individual. If you regularly communicate in a similar style, you will look equally lower-class, uneducated and possibly not very bright. In other words, its a matter of communication. If you communicate poorly, you tend to be ignored, and in my opinion whatever you have to say matters less.

    If I am reading forum posts and I come across a post that is utterly incoherent, misspelled, or contains a lot of grammatical errors, I skip it. That person has failed to get whatever point they were trying to make across to me at least, and likely others. If you want to be given attention, and your opinions to be given any consideration, learn to communicate using proper grammar, spelling etc. Failure to do so simply makes you look like an idiot.

    Now, unleash the Grammar Nazis to let me know where I have erred in my post. I tried to be correct throughout, but I am sure I have made at least one mistake :)

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  10. Re:How to reach them by Flea+of+Pain · · Score: 4, Funny

    My personal favourite was at a fast food Chinese place. The sign? "No. MSG"

    I took that to mean that if you asked a question the answer would be "No." Followed by "MSG"

    Eg. "Do you use healthy preservatives in your food?" "No. MSG"

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  11. BS by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Consider the missing comma here: "Mary had freckles on her but we liked her anyway." Without the comma, one could infer that Mary's ass was speckled.

    That's nonsense on several counts.

    1. But is spelled differently than butt.
    2. No comma is necessary in sentences like your example. By which I mean you're going to find plenty of examples of excellent writers routinely dispensing with the comma in parallel grammatical structures.
    3. If the sentence was spoken, intonation would make it quite clear what was meant. The pitch on the but would be higher than butt.
    4. Pretty much any argument about "bad grammar" that's based on the ambiguity of a constructed example sentence presented without any context where it would be used is bullshit. Context routinely disambiguates language.
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  13. Re:Bullshit. by lgw · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you're actually interested: fewer relates to countable nouns, less to uncountable. Less water, fewer glasses. "Less glasses" sounds as wrong as "fewer water".

    Of course, few people read edited prose these days, and so most lack the "ear" for poor usage. It will be an odd time for language, with almost everyone literate but not reading books.

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  14. Re:Slashdot by rjstanford · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Whoosh", wrote the slashdotter with a smile on his face, feeling superior to the parent poster but slightly uneasy, for he was haunted by the possibility of nourishing a troll instead of educating the masses.

    But now we're going to have to have a debate on whether American or British rules for comma placement near a set of quotation marks are ideal, especially since you used double-quotes (traditionally American) with the British comma placement. I applaud your multiculturalism.

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  15. Re:less / fewer by uglyduckling · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Data" is plural; the singular is "datum". Just like errata and erratum. In a sense you're right, "data" has turned into a popular word and its meaning is changing, but trying to claim that it has recently become popular to use it as plural is completely wrong; rather the reverse is true.

  16. You may want to finish that quote. by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 3, Informative

    From dictionary.com: "Even though less has been used before plural nouns ( less words; less men ) since the time of King Alfred, many modern usage guides say that only fewer can be used in such contexts. Less, they say, should modify singular mass nouns ( less sugar; less money ) and singular abstract nouns ( less honesty; less love ). It should modify plural nouns only when they suggest combination into a unit, group, or aggregation: less than $50 (a sum of money); less than three miles (a unit of distance). With plural nouns specifying individuals or readily distinguishable units, the guides say that fewer is the only proper choice: fewer words; fewer men; no fewer than 31 of the 50 states."

    You know, that quote continues. The next sentence after you cut it off: "Modern standard English practice does not reflect this distinction."

    Note that they said standard. The entry is actually endorsing the use of constructions like less words and less men.

    It's no surprise that people don't understand this distinction. Look at the confusion around the word data, which has become popular over the last decade or two to treat as a plural ("The data suggest..." when it should be "The data suggests..."). I'm quite certain that many people will protest this post, that "data" is plural, and treating it as such is correct.

    Um, from dictionary.com: "data (noun): a pl. of datum." Yes, the very same source that you misleadingly cite as an authority above for less/fewer.

    If "data" is plural, then so are the following: sugar, information, hair, media, agenda...

    Care to actually argue why? I can't tell you how wrong you are about that unless you spell out why you think so.