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Textured Tactile Touchscreens

HizookRobotics writes "A new covering developed by Senseg and Toshiba Information Systems gives touchpads, LCDs, and other curved surfaces (eg. cellphones) programmable texture using a high-resolution electrotactile array — a grid of electrodes that excite nerves in the skin with small pulses of current to trick the body into perceiving texture, pressure, or pin-pricks depending on the current amplitude and electrode resolution. The new covering has many potential applications: interactive gaming, touchscreens with texture, robot interfaces, etc."

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  1. Pinpricks? by Annirak · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's a new way to present the user with error messages!

    1. Re:Pinpricks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I know some users that do need electric shock therapy to stop doing dumb things

    2. Re:Pinpricks? by natehoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can it be modified to present the user with the experience of, say, 1000 volts at about 20 amps?

      I'll take 1,000 please.

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    3. Re:Pinpricks? by harrkev · · Score: 3, Funny

      This reminds me of the old cheesy sci-fi shows where a rogue computer/program/programmer/hacker shocks the victims to death through the computer keyboard. Begin a very technical person, I used to just scoff and laugh. If only I knew then that it would one day be possible.

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    4. Re:Pinpricks? by lennier1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Too true.
      Once had a woman from the customer service dept. call me because her computer "had a virus" and she couldn't open any dialogs anymore. Turns out one of the keys on her keyboard was stuck ...

    5. Re:Pinpricks? by pushing-robot · · Score: 2, Funny

      Meh, I'll stick to blinding them by setting pixels to #ZZZZZZ.

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  2. more like adult toys by bugs2squash · · Score: 2, Funny

    There's an app for that too now.

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  3. Let me be the first... by jenningsthecat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...to say that I'm looking forward to condoms and/or sex toys using this marvelous innovation!

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    1. Re:Let me be the first... by localman57 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Get healthy steady relationship, buy pill..

      use more than one type if you don't want little ones.

      They have a pill that stops crabs?

  4. Keyboard by guppysap13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It would be nice if this could be developed into a way to simulate a keyboard on a touchscreen. All these multitouch devices are great to use, but it can be a pain to type on them, so a way to give tactile feedback on what is a key vs two keys, would help a lot.

    1. Re:Keyboard by darien.train · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think that's actually one of the main uses you'll see as the technology rolls out. I've worked on designing a few methods of large scale (as in life-sized) multi-touch alpha-numeric input and the biggest issue I experience at the moment is ergonomics, not haptic feedback. It's really hard to have a screen positioned in a way that makes it easy to view content and easy to type on at the same time. The texture will help but until better form factors are developed we're not going to get any really decent soft QWERTY keyboards (input conventions themselves are a different story.)

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  5. Personally, I welcome ... by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... the Rule 34 implementation of this.

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    In other news, the porn industry just announced a press conference to announce a product that will change the way you "feel" about porn!

  7. This could let the blind use touchscreen devices by AltairDusk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It sounds like this could be used for a braille interface, I wonder if a braille interface that can change on the fly would ultimately be beneficial or prove confusing though...

  8. Re:This could let the blind use touchscreen device by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Funny

    First they'll have to think about the best way to add a braille interface to a fly.

  9. Re:Wow, again with the Star Trek tech! by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is Star Trek really predicting things or is it more that the current generation of geeks were raised on Star Trek and they make it happen? I think its more of sci-fi pictures a futuristic world of utopia and has some gadgets to make it seem realistic and futuristic, people want to make the utopia happen and such so they go back and make real-world implementations of the gadgets.

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  10. No Thanks... by rotide · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe I'm in a minority, but I already feel an odd sensation of "pain" when I use that odd textured (array of bumps?) on some netbook touchpads. It's a weird radiating electrical buzz feeling up and into my wrist when I slide my finger across it. I know there is no pain and it's just an odd nerve interpretation, but it exists for me none-the-less. I'd hate to use something like that on a regular basis and it sounds like they are trying to replicate that exact feeling on touch devices. No thank you!

    1. Re:No Thanks... by rotide · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Nope, believe it or not, it has everything to do with the way my nerves interpret the texture. I have no pain, at all, otherwise with my finger/wrist. Simply playing with netbooks that use those bumpy touchpads showed me that I don't like the sensation. Again, I might be in a minority, even the only person alive that gets that sensation, but ya..

    2. Re:No Thanks... by Zerth · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's a weird radiating electrical buzz feeling up and into my wrist when I slide my finger across it.

      Have you considered your netbook might be badly grounded?

    3. Re:No Thanks... by shish · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe I'm in a minority, but I already feel an odd sensation of "pain" when I use that odd textured (array of bumps?) on some netbook touchpads

      I used to get a really weird sensation from those bumps too -- not pain as such, but quite unpleasant. After a couple of weeks of daily use I seem to have become numb to it though... It would be interesting to know where that feeling comes from.

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  11. TTTT by Haffner · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tremendous Triumph: Textured Tactile Touchscreens Touted To Totally Transform Technology

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  12. Re:This could let the blind use touchscreen device by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 4, Informative

    There have been moving Braille output devices in the past. They were used in the days of text terminals. One can be seen in the movie Sneakers.

  13. Sounds great for virtual keyboards by infamous_blah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The biggest disadvantage of touchscreen virtual keyboards for me is that I have to look at them. On physical keys I can go by feel and muscle-memory lets me go much faster. Sounds like this could bridge that gap.

  14. Re:Wow, again with the Star Trek tech! by boxwood · · Score: 3, Insightful

    probably a bit of both. A lot of the cool stuff on star trek were done because of a limited budget. ie. the transporter effects were cheaper to produce than showing a shuttle landing on a planet. The consoles in TNG had touch screen control because they could just paint a peice of plastic and slap it on instead of installing individual buttons and knobs.

    Because of limited budgets, the prop designers had to follow KISS. Which is a good principle to follow when designing real devices even if you have a big budget.

  15. Re:This could let the blind use touchscreen device by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There have been moving Braille output devices in the past. They were used in the days of text terminals. One can be seen in the movie Sneakers.

    You're not thinking hard enough. Think of GUI interfaces with textured window outlines and braille fonts on window titles, window gadgets, and so on. A solution would have to be found to the hover problem, but a foot switch or foot click-enable pedal (or noise-based clicking, or, or, or...) would solve that nicely. Right now if you want to use a GUI you have to use a screen reader. You can use it in concert with a braille output device but that's not the same thing as having one device to work with so you don't need one hand on the pointing device, one hand on the reader, and a third hand for the keyboard. There are numerous mice with haptic feedback and adding vibration to a touchpad ought to be an exercise in triviality (there might be some de-jittering needed but otherwise it's a fairly well-solved problem) so there are already numerous ways the blind might apprehend a GUI. Though, I admit, I have not at all kept up with what the blind are using in specifics since the text-only days...

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  16. Hackers hard at work by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    a grid of electrodes that excite nerves in the skin with small pulses of current to trick the body into perceiving texture, pressure, or pin-pricks depending on the current amplitude and electrode resolution.

    Am I the only here imagining some malware creator cackling as he tries to figure a way to deliver as much current as the battery can pump with a single touch of the screen once his virus gets downloaded?

  17. Re:Wow, again with the Star Trek tech! by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Informative

    Is Star Trek really predicting things or is it more that the current generation of geeks were raised on Star Trek and they make it happen?

    In at least one instance it was taking a Rodenberry idea and making it happen. He was approached by Disney, who wanted doors that would open and close automatically like Star Trek did. He had to sadly inform them that the "tech" behind the doors was called "stagehands". Somebody finally (don't know if it was Disney Imagineers or someone else) saw it ind invented them; self-opening doors were in most supermarkets within ten years. Citation: Walt Disney's biography (sorry, I have no no ISBN)

    My first flip phone was a Motorola Star Tek, which did resemble the original Star Trek communicators.

  18. Don't Tactile Me, Bro by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't want little zaps simulating texture. What I want is an electrically activated memory plastic screen that pops up (and releases down) little bumps under software control where the lines drawn on the GUI appear on the screen. Some raised textures on buttons and other GUI widgets. So I can feel where I'm touching, just as I can see where the widgets are. The hard part is making it all transparent, but that's it.

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  19. Re:Wow, again with the Star Trek tech! by Ster · · Score: 2, Funny

    My first flip phone was a Motorola Star Tek, which did resemble the original Star Trek communicators.

    Typoos are a bitch, aren't they?

    Indeed they are: it was a StarTAC .

    :-)