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Rupert Murdoch Claims To Own the 'Sky' In 'Skype'

Crudely_Indecent writes "Not content to own just news stories, Rupert Murdoch is now going after individual words! His BSkyB is fighting a legal battle with Skype, claiming that it owns the 'Sky' in 'Skype.' From the article: 'A spokesman for Sky confirmed that the company has been involved in a "five-year dispute with Skype" over trademark applications filed by the telecomms company. These are, the spokesman added: "including, but not limited to, television-related goods and services."'"

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  1. Hah! by sheehaje · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seems they own the word Douche in the word Douchebag too.

    1. Re:Hah! by Zeek40 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Seems they own the word Douche in the word Douchebag too.

      I came here to call him a Douchenozzle, I stayed to sue you for trademark infringement.

    2. Re:Hah! by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 5, Funny

      Next: Murdoch sues the UK town of Scunthorpe...

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  2. He's crazy right? by Tragek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought trademarks were related to the possibility of accidental confusion. If Murdoch thinks the average person will confuse BSkyB and Skype, he must have the most horrendous opinion of the average person!

    1. Re:He's crazy right? by teh+kurisu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      he must have the most horrendous opinion of the average person!

      The man behind The Sun and Fox News has a horrendous opinion of the average person?

      In other news, grass is green, *** is blue.

    2. Re:He's crazy right? by PatrickThomson · · Score: 3, Funny

      If your *** is blue you need to see a doctor, man!

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    3. Re:He's crazy right? by hedwards · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's one aspect, but in this case Sky is eponymous, sort of like Windows is. So MS could trademark Microsoft Windows XP, but not Windows. Sky by itself can't be trademarked as it already has a meaning which in this case is irrelevant because only a ham fisted fascist like Murdoch would actually even consider those to be confusing.

    4. Re:He's crazy right? by vtcodger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ***Trademarks are not about confusion.***

      Maybe in Latvia or Nepal. In the US, confusion is an element. Johnson and Johnson's trademark on Band-Aid in no way constrains Stephen Ambrose or Randy Shifts from writing books called respectively "Band of Brothers" and "The Band Played On".

      May I be the first to nominate Rupert Murdoch as capitan of mankind's first interstellar expedition? No way to get the explorers back once they are launched? Yeah, I knew that. (I also nominate Donald Trump as first officer).

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    5. Re:He's crazy right? by orrs · · Score: 3, Informative

      apparently the E.U. thinks so. The courts ruled in his favor. http://www.itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/41108-skype-vs-sky-whats-in-a-name/

    6. Re:He's crazy right? by randomsearch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > I thought trademarks were related to the possibility of accidental confusion. If Murdoch thinks the average person will confuse BSkyB and Skype, he must have the most horrendous opinion of the average person!

      You have clearly never watched his TV output.

    7. Re:He's crazy right? by sorak · · Score: 3, Informative

      He also owns the company that sued Al Franken for "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right". It was laughed out of court because the title was obvious parody. I wonder if they don't have slightly different intentions. For example, I may lose the case, but you still have to pay legal fees, and devote time and resources to dealing both with the court battle and the public relations repercussions...OR...you can pay me to make this go away.

    8. Re:He's crazy right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am from Clodnia, you insensitive Latvian!

    9. Re:He's crazy right? by MBGMorden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's related to target industries. Windows is a trademark but that only applies to the computing industry. Microsoft could sue Novell if they came up with an OS called "Novell Windows", but they'd have a much harder time suing a glass cleaner named "Windows".

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  3. hey by Ryanrule · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whens he gonna die?

    1. Re:hey by oldspewey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sad fact: whoever comes along to replace him will be worse.

      It's called a downward trajectory.

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    2. Re:hey by Lythrdskynrd · · Score: 2, Informative

      You'd think that would solve things... but have you ever met his son?

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8227915.stm

      Same evil, just younger.

    3. Re:hey by xMilkmanDanx · · Score: 2, Funny

      He's not quasi evil?

  4. take my love..... by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Funny

    take my land
    take me where I cannot stand
    I don't care
    I'm still free
    you can't take the sky from me

    (Sorry, it's the first thing that came to mind.....)

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  5. Who cares what Murdoch thinks? by XPeter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He employs Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, the entire Fox and Friends team; and blames the internet for the fail of Newscorp. Obviously he's an moron.

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    1. Re:Who cares what Murdoch thinks? by locallyunscene · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He employs Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, the entire Fox and Friends team; and blames the internet for the fail of Newscorp. Obviously he's an moron.

      I don't care what he thinks(which is not much beyond making money). I do care what the hell he does as a non-trivial percentage of America follows his "news".

    2. Re:Who cares what Murdoch thinks? by dkleinsc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Obviously he's an moron.

      The key thing to understand about him is that Rupert Murdoch and his businesses don't support conservative causes because they believe in conservatism, they support conservative causes because they improve Rupert Murdoch's profit margins. For instance, he doesn't give a damn about gay marriage, but is happy to stir up controversy over gay marriage so that Americans will vote in politicians who will cut taxes on Murdoch and Newscorp.

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    3. Re:Who cares what Murdoch thinks? by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sort of. Money is certainly an issue, but so is his conservative agenda. His "genius" is in turning a healthy profit by spreading his message, instead of *spending* money to do the same. Of course, that's not a completely new strategy; he just mastered it in the realm of television by hoisting a tabloid-style news channel under the banner of legitimate news. True, the FOX television network is (or was) known for its "racy" content relative to its competitors, but fun and games end where the news begins. The strategy of any network affiliate is to draw in viewers with the entertainment, then keep them around for the news. In the case of FOX, however, the local affiliates are more and more resembling syndicated broadcasters for the FOX News Channel. Outfoxed has a fairly factual description, albeit presented in a rather hysterical fashion.

    4. Re:Who cares what Murdoch thinks? by rickb928 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "The strategy of any network affiliate is to draw in viewers with the entertainment, then keep them around for the news"

      When you can reliably show me the difference between 'news' and 'entertainment' on any of the popular networks, let me know how you did it.

      CNN, for instance, happily shows us features on Lindsay Lohan, Lady Gaga, missing children wherever, remains of someone recently deceased that, disgraced persons walking out of/into jail, etc. The LEAST of their features are on substantive national issues or political debate. They consider political coverage to be features on Congressional ethics scandals and oil spills in the Gulf of Mexico.

      MSNBC is no different.

      The Comedy Channel at least offers more of a focus on political issues, and despite their attempts to make it snarky or at least funny, they end up with most of the cogent and insightful analysis. Not that U.S. politics is currently all that funny, but it is largely absurd, and hence ironically funny.

      I get why so many people hate Fox. It's the same reason I hate all the rest.

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  6. The expansion of IP/Trademarks by Manip · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't it interesting how the scope of Trademarks and IP law keep expanding. The original concept of a trademark was to make it difficult for the competition to pass their products off as your products, it had this concept of a "reasonable person" being confused between mark A and mark B. I think when we have companies protecting dictionary words and words containing other words that they happen to have trademarked it has gone far further than the original concept.

    I wonder how long until someone protects the letter 'a' and then requires a cash payment each time you use that letter in your trademark? I know that sounds like an insane concept but if you asked people about what is happening today with IP and trademarks they would have told you that was insane too!

    1. Re:The expansion of IP/Trademarks by JPLemme · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Isn't that what Apple did with the letter "i"?

    2. Re:The expansion of IP/Trademarks by aug24 · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's an old Goon Show where they trademark the word 'Help!' and they go around pushing people into canals...

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  7. Yes but he also owns the merde in Murdoch. by kipling · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes but he also owns the merde in Murdoch.

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  8. Fox in Firefox by xouumalperxe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What next? Saying he owns the fox in firefox?

    1. Re:Fox in Firefox by xouumalperxe · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh don't worry. They'll have to sue these guys out of existence first.

  9. Re:More stupid lawsuits? by Zeek40 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You're confusing trademarks with patents. Trademarks are to prevent people from fraudulently claiming to be affiliated with a business. For example, lets pretend you started a successful, well respected business named 'Haedrian's Home Improvements' and trademark the name. If I try to cash in on your success by setting up a similar business named "Haeadrian's Home Improvements" then you could sue me for trademark infringement. It's to prevent me from ruining your business's reputation by doing shitty work for customers who aren't smart enough to realize that There's an extra A in my business's name and it's not the same company as yours. It doesn't matter if either of us invented anything.

  10. Re:Hah! SK Hand Tools owns the SK in Sky! by elwinc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sorry, Rupert! The good folks at SK Hand tools http://www.skhandtool.com/ have had a trademark in SK since 1921. I think you owe them 2/5 of all the revenues BSkyB have taken in since 1989.

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  11. Re:I Trademark letter E on the internet $0.01 per by mrsurb · · Score: 3, Funny

    You bill about $0.50 and site about the same for it's text.

    Well I'm trademarking superfluous apostrophes and you owe me big time!

  12. Hoist him by his own petard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So if Murdoch wins this, will he set a precedent that allows KY Jelly to sue him for the KY in SKY?

    After all, it might create confusion in the market, seeing as how they are both in the business of fucking you in the arse.

  13. mais oui! by KwKSilver · · Score: 3, Informative

    very good. for non-speakers of French, merde means crap.

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    1. Re:mais oui! by mmkkbb · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, it means "shit". Crottes is closer to "crap".

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  14. Re:Sky channel by redmund · · Score: 2, Informative

    but noone says "Sky" anymore, especially after they started calling it BSkyB themselves.

    They refer to themselves as Sky all the time, in their own advertising. Ask anybody in the UK or Ireland who BSkyB is and you'll probably get nothing but a blank stare from 3/4 of them. They're known as Sky to the general public, they're referred to as Sky in rival advertising (e.g. not available on Sky!).

  15. Rupert Murdoch is the Larry Ellison of Media by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A powerful, mean and hateful man - who's wealth and power have brought no comfort to his cramped and ugly little self. The paucity of his humanity is demonstrated with every pathetic grab he makes.

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  16. Right, so... by ITBurnout · · Score: 2, Funny

    I own the "ass" in Fox Classics. So there.

  17. Re:Detestible Putrid Excrescence by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Funny

    They will not have him.

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  18. Re:Hah! SK Hand Tools owns the SK in Sky! by ndixon · · Score: 2, Funny

    You think that is bad, wait till they have to pay another 2/5 for BS.

    Subscribers have been paying for that for over two decades now.

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  19. Re:More stupid lawsuits? by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Infringing a Trademark - Passing your product off as someone elses, or connected to someone elses

    Infringing Copyright - Copying a complete or partial work without the artists permission

    Infringing Patent - Using a design for an invention without paying the patentor

    Trademarks don't protect inventors they protect company image

    Copyright doesn't protect inventors, it protects artists works ...

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  20. You mean in the mainstream media owned by Murdoch by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Gosh, I wonder why Fox News owned by Ruport Murdoch isn't tearing Mr Ruport Murdoch a new one over this.

    And if you wonder why the BBC isn't reporting? Same deal. Us knows us.

    Don't expect unbiased reporting on the news, by the news.

    Depening on the mainstream news for news about mainstream news companies is like allowing politicians to vote on their own salaries. Board members to vote on board of director salaries. VVD members (dutch right wing party) to examine VVD members who mismanged a bank and werent overseen by the regulator who is a member of the VVD.

    Politics, maybe if we shot everyone who watches Idols, we would have a bit more scrutiny.

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  21. Re:"sky" an Old Norse word for "cloud" by boxwood · · Score: 3, Funny

    Haha

    I just envisioned an englishman trying to learn norse. He points up and asks the viking "what do you call that?" The viking gives him the norse word for cloud. But of course since its always cloudy and raining in england, the englishman never learns the norse word for sky, only the norse word for cloud.

  22. If I were a lawyer by Normal+Dan · · Score: 3, Funny

    I would use the candid camera defense. The idea is, this lawsuit is so ridiculous we must be on candid camera. Everyone involved would break out laughing saying "Oh, I get it!" and "OK, where are the cameras?" Then everyone on our side would proceed to believe it was a joke and not take anything Rupert's lawyers say seriously, etc.

    Then again, there's probably a good reason I'm not a lawyer.

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  23. Murdock owns the ass by ohiovr · · Score: 2, Funny

    in asshole