San Francisco Just As Guilty In Terry Childs Case

snydeq writes "Deep End's Paul Venezia follows up on the Terry Childs sentencing, stating that the City of San Francisco is as much at fault in this case as Childs is. 'The way that the San Francisco IT department has been run is nothing short of abysmal, and that has been pointed out time and again by anyone paying attention to this case,' Venezia writes. 'Plenty of dirty laundry was aired out in court as well, yet through it all, the city has had a full-court press on Childs, and being both the plaintiff and the prosecution it spared no expense to drill Childs into the ground.' Worse, perhaps, is the disproportion of the sentence, when compared with recent convictions for intended malfeasance on the part of several notable rogue IT admins."

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Run

[commodore64_love]

(1) Childs was wrong. You don't withhold passwords from your employer. It's his property, and he's allowed to be an idiot with his own property.

(2) Having been convicted, I would have run away. There are a lot of decent IT jobs in the Northeast..... almost 3000 miles away from the SF Government's reach. No different than running from Spain to Poland to start a new life.

Wah

[jewishbaconzombies]

I don't like the way my company is run. I'm going to rob them - because it's justified in my fucked-up imagination.

Rot in jail asshole.

Basically

[oldhack]

Another episode of lawyers fucking over a geek.

Let the nerd rage spew forth.

Re:It's a question of policy

[BitZtream]

The major (presumably a valid password agent) asked for the password over an open speakerphone while in the presence of a half dozen other people who were not valid password agents.

So fucking what? Several people well above him asked for it, period, end of story, he wasn't right, you can't justify it as being a good admin, he wasn't.

He was trying to become an extorsionist. This is not a good thing no matter how your fucked up view of the world tries to make him into some admin super hero. He's a dick, a shitty admin, a shitty person and all around a waste of planetary resources, I suspect you are too.

The boss did something similar (asking for the password to be given to him in an invalid manner).

Perhaps you and Mr Childs needs to get some fucking clue about what 'Boss' means.

Childs was screwed no matter what he did. Was he paranoid and did he overreact (probably).

Yes it was legal and yes it was entirely justified. Don't want to be made into an example? Don't try to extort the government in full public view, and then continue to do so even after thrown in jail.

He was screwed the instant he decided he was going to be a dick, he did it entirely too himself.

It's legal to give you a ticket for doing 66 in a 65. And to do so with cameras so you don't even know you got it. And to give you another ticket another mile down the road for the same crime-- every mile all the way home.

So let me get this straight ... its okay to break the law and risk other peoples lives as long as no one sees you do it? Are you kidding me? And you're trying to argue that you only deserve one ticket even though you continued to break the law?

That has to be one of, if not THE, most retarded thing I have ever read.

'Its okay to continually break the law if you don't get caught and you shouldn't get punished more because you did it more often even though you didn't realize the cops knew it'

You don't want speeding tickets ... don't break the speed limit, which your community has agreed on as appropriate for the area. You either play by the community rules or the community will 'take care of you'. Today that means fines for most things, but at a certain point the community realizes you're far more effort than you're worth and the punishment starts to become more severe. Eventually, the community just takes you to the center of town and stones you to make you an example. Congratulations Mr Childs, you pissed everyone off so much with your arrogance and douche baggery that you're not being pelted with rocks. Thats okay though ... cause you still know in your heart that you were right ... regardless of the fact that not one of your peers agrees with you.

Next time you get a speeding ticket, go out right after the cop lets you go and start speeding again, see how many times you get by with that.

There are lots of things that are legal but not right.

Yep, and this isn't one of them. Letting him go for legal reasons most certainly would have been legal and not right, but this was both legal AND RIGHT.

The lesson learned is... you don't want to work for the government without a strong union and clear policies backing you.

... The lesson learned is ... don't be a complete fucking idiot and you'll be able to work in an easy, comfy, no real work, government job forever ... but even the government at some point gets fed up with douche bags. The policies were in fact VERY VERY clear, perhaps you should actually learn what happened and you'd see this? No union would have saved him, he was wrong in every way. Any union that would have tried to 'defend' Childs is a union that shouldn't exist.

I have

Re:Custodial sentences for non violent crimes

[BitZtream]

Hanging people in America who steal a loaf of bread would cut down on a lot of problems.

Theres no real reason in America to steal a loaf of bread, someone will give you won't without too much effort ... like asking.

If you still feel the need to steal a loaf of bread then you probably aren't really that much benefit to society anyway, so I don't really see the point in keeping you around.

We should I have to carry the weight of people who are too lazy to carry themselves ... and thats all you have in America. We're not talking about a country where people actually starve because there really isn't any place to get food.

I, as an American, am extremely intolerant of the 'homeless' because there is no reason in America to be 'homeless', even right now in this 'horrible' economy with 'high unemployment' there are STILL now hiring signs all over the place and it simply comes down being unwilling (not unable, we have help for those people too!) to do anything to make your place in the world better.

I happily welcome immigrants from other nations, especially the poor. We have millions of Mexicans who sneak into America to do work that is far 'lower' than our 'standards' for far less than our 'minimum wage' ... because ... we are SO MUCH BETTER than the how bad it can REALLY get when you're TRUELY POOR that even the shittiest illegal under the table job in America is STILL about a thousand times better than the alternatives they had going for them.

I used to get mad when I went to McDonalds and couldn't speak to the people that worked there because they couldn't speak a lick of English ... pissed me off, till I realized that they are happy to do the jobs that Americans think they too good to do.

Now I'm very happy to see an immigrant steal 'an American' job ... I'm hoping that we'll get back to the country we used to be, where people were happy to work to make their world better.

All we have now in America is a bunch of lazy fucks who think they are entitled to everything.

I welcome your tired, your weak, your sick and your poor ... because at least the 'lower classes' of the rest of the world aren't that way by choice, America's lower class citizens are that way by choice.

Chinese punishment

[stimpleton]

China is criticised for its human rights. When a female a couple years back was convicted of killing several children her sentence was a bullet fired at close range to the back of the head from an AK47.

It amazes me the number of posts about the Terry Childs case that simply imply: "This sysadmin did things sysadmins shouldnt. *I* shall stand on this soap box and not question the proportion of his offending against the sentence."

Short of the bullet to the back of the head I suspect some on here think he should serve a life sentence.

And these same people denounce other countries for their human rights. Amazing.