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Autism Diagnosed With a Fifteen Minute Brain Scan

kkleiner writes "A new technique developed at King's College London uses a fifteen minute MRI scan to diagnose autism spectrum disorder (ASD). The scan is used to analyze the structure of grey matter in the brain, and tests have shown that it can identify individuals already diagnosed with autism with 90% accuracy. The research could change the way that autism is diagnosed – including screening children for the disorder at a young age."

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  1. Re:Shamans? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    There's a pretty big difference between psychologists and psychiatrists.
    One of them gets to prescribe drugs.

  2. Autism, is it really a disease? by Manip · · Score: 3, Interesting

    With Autism being so prevalent in humans you do have to wonder if it is really a disease or mistake, or perhaps either a previous evolutionary step or our next evolutionary step. While people who suffer at the extreme ends of the autistic spectrum would have difficulty maintaining a society, some of the more moderate autistic individuals are leaders in engineering, technology, and science. I do worry that when you diagnose someone with autism there is this natural "I'm broken" feeling along with it, and everyone treats you like you're disabled and thus useless. So I cannot say if being able to identify autism more often is a good or bad thing.

    It is interesting, but unsurprising, that they found that ADHD and autism had no link thus far. Based on the symptoms I expect we'll find that if ADHD exists at all that it will be localised around control, while autism is localised around right/left brain communication.

    1. Re:Autism, is it really a disease? by abigsmurf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I personally believe that these savants are little more than statistics in action. For every autistic person who can do incredibly complex maths with ease, I'd be willing to bet there are hundreds in academia or research with similar levels of ability. If 1 in 500 regular people are mathematical whizzes, then 1 in 500 people (whose version of autism doesn't affect their thinking in that way) should also be whizzes.

      Other times, it's a case of mental disabilities forcing people into certain career paths. Take Dyspraxia and it's more famous cousin Dyslexia. Both of these conditions affect hand to eye co-ordination (Dyspraxia especially). Kids with these conditions get lumped with the fat kids when it comes to being picked last in the playground because. These kids aren't especially likely to take up sports because of this (that's not to say some don't). This is why a larger portion of geeks tend to have this condition compared to the general population.

    2. Re:Autism, is it really a disease? by Securityemo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I am a "diagnosed" asperger sufferer; as in, every psychologist I've ever met have basically said 'you have asperger' upon taking to me for a few hours, except for the one that suspected schizophrenia. Cue me trying to convince them to focus om my ADD instead of something that can't be treated. I am functional socially, more or less, if I want, but deliberately play up my geek/nerd image in order to have enough leeway to charade myself through life. It helps that I'm good-looking, I think. Here's how I see it: the disconnect from normal socio-emotional interaction, even in mild autism disorders, is severe enough that you on some level can cease to see yourself as human - keeping myself from not doing things that goes against normal human social instinct, like reciprociating feelings and not being childishly selfish, is a constant act of will. There is little to no impulse to do these things - imagine trying to play a character on a stage, faking expressions and gestures; but at the same time, this person is you and the feelings are real. This disconnect makes it easy to think, maybe I'm not human, maybe I'm some sort of goddamn elven changeling/space alien/master race specimen?

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    3. Re:Autism, is it really a disease? by Securityemo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's another component when it comes to that - the fact that, to such a kid, ordinary team sports may be completely undoable. I excelled at and won contests in long-distance skiing and archery as a child/teen, but since I couldn't intuitively act in concert with the others when playing soccer, say, I just made a mess off it. Not that people really disliked me or laughet at me for this, it just didn't work. This is argumenting from a personal anecdote, I know, just throwing it in there.

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  3. Re:Or.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Autism is basically a cluster of behaviors and other factors that often appear together in a child.

    Some examples from the Wikipedia article about autism include toe-walking, refusing to be interrupted, making repetitious sounds, compulsive behavior, problem recognizing faces...

    Does that sound to you like basically any kid under the age of 10?

  4. Re:Or.. by delinear · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Or that, like all good screening tools, it's used as an aid to proper diagnosis rather than the final arbiter of such. There's nothing wrong with mass screening per se so long as you don't rely on it to make the final decision. On the other hand, I wonder what percentage of those false positives are, as GP pointed out, potentially patients who were misdiagnosed in the first instance.

  5. Re:Or.. by fractoid · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It's even worse than that. It's not 20% false positives - it's 19 out of 20 positives are false. FTFA:

    If we’re asking, “If I have autism, will the brain scan find it?,” the answer is an encouraging 90% “yes.” But if we change the question to “If the scan says I have autism, do I have the ASD?,” that number plummets to something like 5%.

    In other words, this method is roughly as accurate as:

    bool hasAutism(void *data) {
    return (rand() % 20) == 3;
    }

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  6. Re:woo! by Securityemo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This would be ideal - but in my experience, there is zero intuitive understanding of asperger behaviour in people who doesn't have it. Zero as in, in all the people with obvious asperger and attendant behavioural problems that I have encountered IRL, none have gotten any understanding from the people around them. "Why does he behave in this bizzare, antisocial way?", "He's straight up evil.", "She's a cold bitch", "He's to smart to relate to us normal people (the standard explanation for my behaviour as a kid)" etc.
    When it has affected my friends/family, I have explained to them the (to me) obvious reason behind these people's behaviour - later, they tell me that when they interpreted the persons behaviour in the way I argued they should, they suddenly notice that they are able to predict the former utterly crazy persons reactions in a way that, while still making no sense to them, are at least consistent.

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  7. Re:I'm not exactly impressed... by geekoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The pojnt of the test was to see if it was even possible to detect someone with autism. That's all.

    Apparently it is. More refinement needed.

    If peoplem started using it right now as an actual yes/no test then everyones complaints would be justified.

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