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Intel Buys McAfee

Several readers have noted that Intel has agreed to buy McAfee, the computer antivirus software maker, for about $7.7 billion in cash. There is also a press release available if you are into that sort of thing.

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  1. Will they kill it? by guruevi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pretty please? Just give all their victims - I mean customers - their money back and just kill it off already. McAfee has no right even existing.

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    1. Re:Will they kill it? by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      And deprive millions of corporate IT drones of their false sense of security?!?!? Are you insane, man???

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    2. Re:Will they kill it? by couchslug · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you want to drive demand for new processors, sell bloatware. :P

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  2. Holy cow by mike260 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That junk is worth $7bn?

    1. Re:Holy cow by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, but it probably wastes at least that much each year in CPU watts.

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    2. Re:Holy cow by RabbitWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think we're all thinking that. I'm so amazed at this. Someone paid 7 billion for the right to sell people magic beans.

    3. Re:Holy cow by tayhimself · · Score: 5, Informative
      Disk Encryption is another big part of McAfee. We not only use their software, an update of which caused BSODs a few months ago, but we've also moved to this Safeboot encryption product which is now called endpoint encryption. Intel has recently added AES-NI encryption instructions to its chips which they will likely port safeboot over to.

      I like truecrypt and MSE for windows systems myself but I am not an IT director.

    4. Re:Holy cow by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why would the existence of MS Security Essentials possibly convince Intel to shell out billions to get in on that action?

      AV, as it stands, is basically a thankless, reactive chore, with the occasional destructive false positive to brighten your day. Now that Microsoft has come out with a competent(by the standards of the industry) and unobtrusive(by the standards of the industry) free offering from a trusted (if you are running Windows, clearly you trust them to some degree) name, the only gold left in home AV is fool's gold.

      There is still some cash to be had in corporate AV, since MS ain't exactly giving ForeFront away; but what would a company whose software experience consists largely of compilers, drivers, and the occasional linux project want getting in there?

      And, even if they do have some clever plan involving leveraging their Intel AMT motherboard stuff, why McAfee? There are plenty of smaller, presumably cheaper, outfits that are at least as competent, many more so, and the brand name won't matter once Intel starts using theirs. One imagines that they could have gotten Kaspersky for half as much, if that.

      Color me confused.

    5. Re:Holy cow by labradore · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, Apple is the largest retailer of music. Also, they are doing their best to become the most important distributor for TV, Movies and eBooks. Apple sells about $5B per year in thru the iTunes Music/Apps/Movies/TV/Books Store and those sales are growing at about 25% per year. While that's only about 7% of their sales right now, it's growing steadily and likely to be about as profitable as the hardware businesses. It's also likely to equal or outstrip Mac sales within a year or two.

      No, Apple is not primarily a distributor, but they are in line to become the biggest distributor. That scares the distribution competition because Apple can afford push down distribution margins to promote high-margin device sales. So, you're right they don't need the money from iTMS but iPhones and iPods and iPads aren't nearly as attractive without iTMS--that's part of what you buy when you buy the device.

      And that's the difference. Intel doesn't NEED McAfee, whereas Apple can't really operate without iTMS. Intel might find a way to differentiate future processors by adding industrial-strength security to their chips by integrating AV and management suite facilities with specialized hardware, but Intel has always benefited from being the premiere supplier of open-platform technologies and they are forced to be that way both by the market and by regulation. If they change that significantly to increase margins, they may become vulnerable to attack on both fronts. To me, $8Bn is just too much for McAfee. I think they could have got the same capabilities for a lot less money. McAfee sells low-margin, crappy AV software. They earn a few hundred million a year. Intel earns 4x the return on investment in its existing business (relative to McAfee). Also, I believe the embarrassing products McAfee sells will dilute Intel's brand. In the words of Warren Buffett, as an INTC shareholder "I feel poorer".

    6. Re:Holy cow by nine-times · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not only that, but I believe Intel owns Grisoft, which means they already own an antivirus package. I don't get what they're doing here.

  3. Strange by lennier1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Couldn't they have bought something that's actually worth the money?

    1. Re:Strange by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sorry, but AOL isn't for sale at the moment ;-)

  4. Finally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    McAfee is finally in the hands of someone qualified to figure out how to completely uninstall it.

    1. Re:Finally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      McAfee is finally in the hands of someone qualified to figure out how to completely uninstall it.

      Or at least 99.999967217864781687% of it.

    2. Re:Finally... by RivenAleem · · Score: 4, Funny

      They intend on replacing the software with a looping .gif that pretends to scan your computer when you click on the icon in the systray. Thus they will continue to provide the same core functionality* at a fraction of the processor capability

      *core functionality may consist of, and won't exceed convincing idiots that their computer is secure

    3. Re:Finally... by alx5000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do you mean 1998.999967217864781687?

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    4. Re:Finally... by alexhs · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do you mean 1998.999967217864781687?
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      Well, that's where your 0.02 cents come handy as:
      1998.999967217864781687 + 0.0002 = 1999.

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  5. Wow! by spiffmastercow · · Score: 5, Funny

    You could buy a cross country railroad for that kind of money!

    1. Re:Wow! by R.Mo_Robert · · Score: 5, Funny

      You could buy a cross country railroad for that kind of money!

      Finally, some standard units instead of all this USD nonsense!

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  6. Wow, Intel jumps the shark by DeafDumbBlind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    WTF are they thinking. Granted they're sitting on a pile of cash, but this is silly.
    If I were an INTC shareholder I would be pretty pissed off.
    If they were looking for something to do with the cash, they should have just paid out a nice dividend.

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  7. All part of their core business by PingSpike · · Score: 5, Funny

    Intel plans to release a final update to all Mcafee users that will force uninstall the software from their machines, increasing the performance of Intel systems by 300%.

    1. Re:All part of their core business by plams · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Or, they plan to make it even slower, and encourage users to upgrade their processors!

  8. Lycos part deux by aliens · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can see it now 10 years from now, just like Lycos, "McaFee purchased for $7.7 billion in 2010, sold for $200 million in 2015 has just been sold again today for $34 million to some company in Vietnam." Seriously, has anyone personal or enterprise had good experiences with their products?

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    1. Re:Lycos part deux by hedwards · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Possibly, but I suspect that Intel might be after patents. While McAfee is crap software, it wouldn't surprise me if they had some patents that could help Intel with putting better anti-virus protection into their processors or adding acceleration for heuristics.

  9. The press release is fluff by Iamthecheese · · Score: 4, Interesting

    100% marketing fluff. I really, REALLY want to know what happened under the table, what's still happening under the table, what McAfee has that 15 cheap startups don't, and how this is going to affect Intel hardware in the future.

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  10. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just diversifying their portfolio or are there other objectives at work?

    They're gonna add even more bloat, sucking more CPU cycles, forcing people to upgrade, and therefore buy more Intel CPUs.

  11. What to do, oh what to do... by Ornlu · · Score: 4, Funny

    A list of better things you could do with $7b:

    1. Fill a swimming pool with $100 bills and go nuts.

    2. Buy several sky scrappers and blow em up, just for shits and giggles.

    3. Buy Kaspersky.

    4. Nothing. Absoluetly nothing. Ever again.

    Any other suggestions?

    1. Re:What to do, oh what to do... by cgenman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      5. Buy Nvidia, and have an on-board graphics card that isn't terrible.

      6. Buy AMD. Twice. Getting ATI in the process. Twice.

      7. Buy Analog Devices and make a play for the low-powered market.

      8. Actually bring Canoe Lake to market.

      9. Send everyone in the United States two stuffed Intel Bunnies.

  12. Perfect match by Tridus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Intel needs people to think they need these faster multi core CPUs they keep cranking out.

    And who is better at slowing Windows down to the point of uselessness then Mcafee?

    It's a perfect fit. We'll see you slow, bloated software, then also sell you CPUs to make your computer usable.

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  13. Hardware-based AV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seems like this is the logical goal. Integrate AV at the hardware level and you should see a significant performance increase, plus tasty vendor lock-in.

  14. Re:Uh by Ihmhi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Assuming they were classy and used $100 bills (volume: 0.69 cubic inches), it would occupy about 4,427,500 cubic feet. Anyone care to take a swing at the weight? d:

  15. Direct quote from my boss by jayhawk88 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I've got a quarter we can flip to see if this is a good or bad thing."

  16. Re:mcafee corporate is better then the home ver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yep, welded software is way stronger.

  17. Re:Why? by fuzzix · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's just a research venture. Intel is trying to figure out how McAfee can use up so much of a CPU that it should be put out of its misery.

    Nah, Intel actually bought HP - McAfee just came bundled.

  18. McAfee haters? there is more to this deal... by arch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wow, I'm really surprised at this announcement and that Slashdot still has my account on profile. Good jobs on keeping that database!!!

    But seriously folks. Bashing McAfee? Are you ignorant to exactly what McAfee is? The largest AV player in the Government/Military sector. They have very large banks as customers too. But, I know it is more fun to joke about their AV performance, which is in fact on par with most AV products.

    So let me get to the business of trying to decide what this means? It is without a doubt a huge plus for Intel. They have entered into SaaS/cloud email arena with MxLogic, now have a viable FW in the Sidewinder. Can be knocking on checkpoint's gate with a EndPoint Encryption product, is the DLP solution going to rival RSA? Intel gains other network based tools such as IPS/IDS (reconnex), Network Behavioral Analysis, Foundstone, etc.

    I say the deal doesn't go through. At least, getting this past federal regulators will be quite an interesting test.

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  19. YOU ARE EDUCATED EVIL! by Thud457 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why in the name of timecube are you running Oracle on an architecture that McAfee can even run on?!!!

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  20. Re:mcafee corporate is better then the home ver by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah, I need to disagree. It slows things down on my work laptop. I so want to replace Mcaffee on this machine and use MS Security Essentials like I have at home. Microsoft actually put out an AV scanner that doesn't feel like a lead weight.

  21. Re:Why? by m.ducharme · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh come on, no more McAfee, and Norton will just step into their shoes.

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  22. Re:mcafee corporate is better then the home ver by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah. No unnecessary SVChost.exe http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/04/21/1735211/McAfee-Kills-SVCHostexe-Sets-Off-Reboot-Loops-For-Win-XP-Win-2000

    Given that McAfee "Oopsie" actually shutdown Intel operations for a day, maybe they do want to take it out back, and put it out of its misery?

  23. How Far They've Come by BlindSpot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    20 years ago when I got my first modem (wow it's been that long, I feel old) McAfee was *the* virus scanner. Sysops used it to scan uploads and users used it to scan downloads. Of course back then it was a small command line app that fit on one floppy and ran in 256KB (yes, K) of memory, not the massive piece of bloatware it is now. It was also free... paid versions didn't appear until Windows took over IIRC.

    Never would have guessed that they woulda end up developing into a software giant worth $7.7B. And sold to Intel of all companies.

    Heard a guy on the business channel speculating that Intel might be wanting it to develop on-chip virus scanners. Sounds like a promising application if it'll speed it up. As it is now scanners as no faster now as it was 20 years ago, but back then we only had 30MB drives to scan so it ran a full scan in under 30 seconds. Now we have 300GB or more and it takes about 3 hours... no wonder people hate virus scanners.

  24. They bought McAfee so they can keep Dell away from by wsgeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Instead of giving Dell cash to stay away from AMD (which is frowned upon), they will give away McAfee licenses. It's that simple.

  25. Re:Why? by tattood · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Anti-virus imbedded into CPU functionality? I'm sure they won't include all the extra crap that causes the "CPU bloat" but the underlying antivirus technology alone could be embedded into the CPU to protect against viruses.

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  26. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But it's only a trial version. After 60 days Intel will have to pay again to keep McAfee for a year.