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Gmail Video Chat Now Available On Linux

borfast writes "If you use Gmail on Linux, you may have wondered when you would be able to use the voice and video chat that Windows and Mac users have enjoyed for quite some time. The wait is finally over; Google yesterday announced video support for Linux browsers. Now if only Pidgin could provide solid video chat functionality in their client..." According to the brief announcement on the Google blog, "Voice and video chat for Linux supports Ubuntu and other Debian-based Linux distributions, and RPM support will be coming soon."

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  1. Nice by TrisexualPuppy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Shows where Google's priorities (rightly) are. We have been waiting for years and can't even get a decently-working version of flash for Linux. Foreshadowing, perhaps?

    1. Re:Nice by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 4, Funny

      We have been waiting for years and can't even get a decently-working version of flash for Linux.

      Yes such a blessing Linux is! Years before iphone/ipad didn't have flash. We didn't have it first!

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    2. Re:Nice by helix2301 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Flash has had so many issues on linux the infamous you tube with no sound if you Google that you have enough reading material for quite a while and the high resource intensive issues. Flash I think has gotten worse with every Ubuntu release I really don't think has gotten better at all.

    3. Re:Nice by CarpetShark · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes such a blessing Linux is! Years before iphone/ipad didn't have flash. We didn't have it first!

      This is probably more true than you'd think. Linux users were clamouring for Flash for years, as were Linux/PPC and Linux/AMD64 users. Linux and Linux/AMD64 Flash, at least, actually happened. So they probably all contributed to Flash's portability, paving the way for Flash on mobiles etc.

  2. Empathy by Tester · · Score: 3, Informative

    Empathy has already supported XMPP video chats for years! And has been compatible with Google non-standard variant almost since it was announced.

    1. Re:Empathy by robotito · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But now, you can read the Google ads while chatting... (which is essential for them)

    2. Re:Empathy by natehoy · · Score: 4, Informative

      So does Pidgin, and has done for at least a few months. I'm not sure what the author of the summary was on about, I've had Gmail video chats between a Windows box and my wife's Linux box several times, her using Pidgin and me using the video chat client in Firefox.

      Her eeePC has some microphone driver oddities we had to overcome in Linux (my one and only reason to drop to the command line in that install, turns out the eeePC identifies itself as having a stereo mic but only a mono is installed, and if signal comes in on both channels they cancel each other out, so you have to mute one of them), but the camera worked right out of the box in Linux Mint, and turning on video chat support in Pidgin was a matter of enabling the extension and using it, all in the Pidgin GUI.

      In any case, it's nice to see it coming straight to the browser chat client.

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    3. Re:Empathy by camcorder · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They don't care whether you read their ads or not, they only care if you click on them.

    4. Re:Empathy by think_nix · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Unless your are behind a proxy server:

      https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602824

  3. DIY by Ironchew · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, if you didn't mind screwing around with ffmpeg, ffserver, and VLC Media Player, you could have done audioconferencing and videoconferencing already. Be warned, it isn't for the people who stray away from compiling and documentation.

    1. Re:DIY by dragin33 · · Score: 2, Informative

      My wife, a non-Linux user sat down with our Ubuntu 10 laptop last weekend to video chat over Skype. It worked great for the most part! However, after having the video in full screen mode the application hung and, unable to get out of full screen mode, effectively the computer was unusable and had to be power buttoned. At least it wasn't a totally bad Linux experience for my wife but I wish the Linux desktops and (more specifically) the applications that run on it were more stable!

    2. Re:DIY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      CTRL+ALT+F1
      username
      password
      killall skype

    3. Re:DIY by Fri13 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ctrl+Alt+Esc and click the screen. Because the video was fullscreen, you could not miss it. This just would not work if the Xorg has crashed so the input devices does not work.

  4. Announcement? by VincenzoRomano · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sadly enough, I didn't get any ofthe usual announcement email from Google.
    It's ridiculous that I have to read every day their blog in order to know the news about the services I'm using...

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    1. Re:Announcement? by yurtinus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes yes, how DARE they not spam you!

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  5. Re:May the source be with you by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My thoughts exactly. Why not GPL this code, and maybe then we could see it merged into other clients as well?

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  6. The reason by donnythebowler · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is great and all, but it's obviously just the byproduct of Google preparing ChromeOS. Linux-based, browser-only.

    1. Re:The reason by Locutus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      while it would be great to have OS native versions of everything, a fully functional and usable browser solution is not a problem. If anything, it should still result in move vendors digging in and supporting GNU/Linux and that should result in more OS native options. If the driver model for ChromeOS is very different from the standard drivers then it might not carry over as much as we'd like. But still, getting vendors to support any GNU/Linux platform is better than what most do now by not supporting it.

      LoB

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  7. Re:Is it just me... by baka_toroi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, after 3 years without trying Linux I decided to give it a shot with Linux Mint. It's great! The installation process was better than in Mac OS X. Even error messages were clear to understand (My DVD drive wasn't reading properly the installation disc). The only problems are the ones we all know about: lack of *Microsoft* office (but that's not an issue for most of us), lack of proper Adobe Flash, shitty ATI drivers (luckily I have an Nvidia card) and so on.

    But the experience with the OS is surprisingly positive. I have a Windows XP partition because I will need to program in .NET soon, but other than that, I don't think I'll use Windows much.

  8. Pidgin by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 3, Informative

    ``Now if only Pidgin could provide solid video chat functionality in their client...''

    I honestly think the Pidgin team isn't that interested in such features. Video chat was coded for it years ago (back when it was still called Gaim), but that code was never adopted. I guess it just isn't a very big deal, or else I expect people would have switched to software that does do video chat, like the gaim-vv fork, Kopete, or AMSN. I don't see that happening, though. And Skype got by without video support for years, too. The world at large doesn't really seem to care about video chat.

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  9. ok knuckleheads by Stumbles · · Score: 2, Insightful

    please provide a tarball.

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    1. Re:ok knuckleheads by orzetto · · Score: 2, Informative

      $ alien --to-tgz google-talkplugin_current_amd64.deb

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  10. Re:Is it just me... by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "anymore"? I think Linux matters more every year. We don't have so many "Year of the Linux Desktop" stories because we've finally managed to pound it into most people's heads that there will not be any such thing, and that in fact it is probably impossible for such a thing to ever happen again (short of a technological singularity) due to the importance of legacy systems and the complexity of a modern computing system. Linux continues to gain seats (and servers) so it continually becomes more relevant. And if we ever do get this alleged impending flood of ARM netbooks and tablets, you're going to see it become very important indeed. This is Microsoft's worst nightmare. It almost makes me want to go buy a shitty ARM netbook right now to prove that people want these devices and will take even inferior ones over Windows-based solutions. I am distinctly unhappy with the software experience on my LT3102u :(

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  11. Re:Is it just me... by natehoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No. It's not just you.

    There are plenty of people who think that Linux doesn't matter that much any more. And, for them (and you), assuming you are talking about Linux on the desktop, you're right. Unless you want to make it matter, it doesn't.

    Embedded devices like routers and cell phones and PVR/DVRs and the like are a whole separate discussion. Linux itself may matter to your lifestyle a little more than you think. But you don't need to worry about that any more than you have to worry about the brand of spark plugs in your car. It was part of the box you bought, that box would just have cost more if Linux wasn't available and the manufacturer had to license something else. Almost no one puts a sticker on their box that says "Linux Inside" any more than Ford puts "Delco Sparkplugs Inside" on their cars. It's part of what you bought, but not necessarily part of why you would want to choose that specific one over others.

    But Linux on the desktop, whether you feel it matters to you or not, does benefit you in myriad small ways. Apple and Microsoft see Linux as a threat, and even as a minor threat Linux still drives Apple and Microsoft to improve their products. In the end, we all win when there's some form of perceived threat to the market leader that they can't simply destroy by discounting their product enough or buying out the competition or suing them into oblivion.

    The threat the Linux community presents to Microsoft and Apple is that we are not not one person, it's not one organization, and they can't stop us. We are not one, we are legion. Microsoft (in particular) has to carefully consider the presence of Linux distros when setting pricing, adding features, fighting piracy, and attempting to position themselves as "worth the money" when compared to an operating system that is free for all to use and modify to suit their own tastes.

    Linux on the desktop may never even approach Apple MacOS in terms of popularity. It's certainly not going to knock Microsoft off its perch in the near future. Maybe never. We penguinheads are perfectly fine with that, in fact most of us don't really care. We just want software we can use on our own terms. Some might prefer it because it costs no money, some might prefer it because no one can ever take it from us.

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  12. to configure the cam, mic, and sound login and by Locutus · · Score: 2, Informative

    login to gmail and go to your "settings", select "chat" from the tabs of things to change and you'll see the "Voice and video chat" section where it'll list the three devices( camera, microphone, speakers ) and the drop down lists should show what devices your system has available. To my surprise, it does list the USB camera and microphone but I have not tested this yet.

    Looks pretty good so far.

    LoB

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  13. Re:Is it just me... by devent · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... and that in fact it is probably impossible for such a thing to ever happen again (short of a technological singularity) due to the importance of legacy systems and the complexity of a modern computing system.

    Linux can to everything what a modern computer system should do. So can the *BSD and BeOS. That was already since at least 5 years. Legacy application can Linux run just fine thanks to Wine. Other systems can run legacy applications fine as well, thanks to virtualization. What you mean by "technological singularity" I have no idea. The point is, we don't see the "Year of the Linux Desktop" or any other system because of the high entry bar in this marketplace. You have to convince first all the OEMs to support any other system besides Windows, and because of the deals with Microsoft it's mostly impossible. Why there was so much press about the Dell site, that state that Linux is more secure then Windows? Why is Dell offering only lower spec laptops with Linux but not for the other laptops as well?

    Why is that anywhere else Linux is the market dominant system? Like in the Super Computers, the servers, movies special effects, the embedded devices like NAS, routers, now in TVs and now soon in the smart phone market. The "technological singularity" is happening in that places quite for some time now with Linux, but not in the desktop market. Coincidence?

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