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Ray Kurzweil Responds To PZ Myers

On Tuesday we discussed a scathing critique of Ray Kurzweil's understanding of the brain written by PZ Myers. Reader Amara notes that Kurzweil has now responded on his blog. Quoting: "Myers, who apparently based his second-hand comments on erroneous press reports (he wasn't at my talk), [claims] that my thesis is that we will reverse-engineer the brain from the genome. This is not at all what I said in my presentation to the Singularity Summit. I explicitly said that our quest to understand the principles of operation of the brain is based on many types of studies — from detailed molecular studies of individual neurons, to scans of neural connection patterns, to studies of the function of neural clusters, and many other approaches. I did not present studying the genome as even part of the strategy for reverse-engineering the brain."

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  1. The best resolution... by Tenek · · Score: 4, Funny

    Clearly, this dispute should be resolved by a poll.

    1. Re:The best resolution... by Kilrah_il · · Score: 3, Funny

      Clearly, Myers did not RTFA (or Watch the featured talk - whatever)! Shame on him. He must be old here.

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    2. Re:The best resolution... by Abstrackt · · Score: 5, Funny

      I say we resolve it with a deathmatch. Then Kurzweil can attempt to reverse-engineer his opponent's brain with his bare hands!

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  2. Re:Not really the main issue is it? by Zarf · · Score: 4, Funny

    In retrospect, maybe I should have read both articles and thought about what I was writing first instead of just spouting off.

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  3. Re:Two decades? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    We can easily do it within two decade: 2010-2019, and 3560-3569.

  4. This gives me an idea: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ray Kurzweil / PZ Myers slash fiction.

    Go on, try to tell me that's not brilliant.

  5. Re:Two decades? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This is just standard "20 years away" rhetoric from futurists: Fusion power within 20 years, Flying cars within 20 years, Duke Nukem Forever within 20 years...

  6. Re:Here We Go Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If he dies soon and pulls a L. Ron Hubbard what sort of cult then will we have on our hands?

    A cult focused on forwarding scientific research, intelligent technology, human longevity and the sort? We could do worse.

  7. So, to summarise.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If you're going to stand up and tell people you think someone else is wrong and hasn't properly understood the problem, make sure you're not basing your opinion on a second-hand re-telling of what the guy might have said. I'm off to tell PZ Myers that Alan Cox claims to have documented a cold fusion powered time-travel device in the comments of the -ac branch kernels.

  8. Re:Not really the main issue is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I don't know whether to laugh or cry at your total ignorance. I have yet to see a cogent argument that shows materialism to be false.

    [Insert quackery here]

    Finally, as a scientist, you are completely blind to the scientific method. To use a computer analogy, the brain is the hardware, the mind the software, the spirit the story grandma tells herself when her computer breaks.

  9. in one sentence? by KingAlanI · · Score: 2, Funny

    Kurzweil ridiculously optimistic, Myers ridiculously cynical?

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  10. Poll Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I can see it now...

    60% side with PZ Myers
    30% side with Ray Kurzweil
    10% side with CowboyNeal