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A Conference For Malware Writers

tsu doh nimh writes "There is a security conference being held in Mumbai later this year called MalCon, and the organizers say it's the first ever conference dedicated to the 'malcoder community.' Brian Krebs interviewed one of them and got this gem: 'Just like the concept of "ethical hacking" has helped organizations to see that hackers are not all that bad, it is time to accept that "ethical malcoding" is required to research, identify and mitigate newer malwares in a "proactive" way.' Bruce Schneier is speaking at a sister MalCon event in Pune, India two days later, and he said he doesn't agree with the organizer's premise that more malware is needed to build better security tools."

112 comments

  1. What could possibly go wrong? by craftycoder · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What could possibly go wrong?

    1. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by jd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Microsoft will doubtless send an engineer so that the malware authors can reserve the bandwidth they need for all those coredumps mentioned earlier.

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    2. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by clang_jangle · · Score: 0, Troll

      They really ought to do that. After all, microsoft makes a boatload of money off all the people who think they need a new computer every other year when it's just the malware making the thing run slowly. If they shipped a more secure OS the resulting drop in revenue would hurt them badly, which is one reason malware from 1995 can run on windows 6.1, er, "7".

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    3. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by amorsen · · Score: 3, Informative

      No amount of malware can ever drain as much performance as Norton Antivirus.

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    4. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by sco08y · · Score: 1

      No amount of malware can ever drain as much performance as Norton Antivirus.

      No malware can suck the life, soul or mind out of you like PowerPoint.

    5. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by kenrblan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      MalCon 2011 - Sponsored by Symantec and McAfee

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    6. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by mark72005 · · Score: 1

      No amount of malware could ever suck as much bandwidth or create as much annoyance as Norton or McAfee, et al. At least malware isn't always demanding updates and upgrades.

    7. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Sulphur · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Malware does automatic updates and upgrades.

    8. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But at least with malware it is transparent...

    9. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by mark72005 · · Score: 2, Funny

      And the malware developers don't give you popups and sound effects and nag screens about it. :)

    10. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Smauler · · Score: 1

      I'm running Windows Vista, installed a few years ago (very soon after Vista was released), no auto updates, disabled security that I could, always turn off defender at boot, running in administator account, no anti-virus. I'm not anal about the sites I visit - however I never run anything from a source I don't trust at least a bit.

      No viruses, no slowdown. I've just moved my PC, but prior to that it was at over a month uptime (I know I should probably turn it off when I'm at work, but I'm lazy).

      The myth about Windows installs necessarily degenerating and being inherently liable to viruses has to get squished soon - it does nothing for Linux. The users who you are trying to switch over will install any old thing whatever OS they are using.

      ps. I just bought a new HD to install Linux on on my computer, I'll probably go Slackware since it's what I'm most familiar with. One of the reasons I'm not running Linux yet is because the fakeraid implementation was pretty technical when I got this computer, and I didn't want to jump right in and hose the partition (which is what the Ubuntu installer suggested... fortunately I knew enough about my system partitioning to not allow it to do that).

    11. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by leromarinvit · · Score: 1

      No amount of malware can ever drain as much performance as Norton Antivirus.

      That's the point - install Norton Antivirus and malware will instantly stop bothering you!

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    12. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong? This is a Godsend. We have a location and time, we have the subjects and we have loads of new neurotoxins to test.
      We figured we would have to wait for the NAMBLA convention to find test subjects that no one would miss in case of "mysterious" disappearance.
      This is absolute serendipity.

    13. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by ZosX · · Score: 1

      I'm running Windows Vista, installed a few years ago (very soon after Vista was released), no auto updates, disabled security that I could, always turn off defender at boot, running in administator account, no anti-virus. I'm not anal about the sites I visit - however I never run anything from a source I don't trust at least a bit.

      No viruses, no slowdown. I've just moved my PC, but prior to that it was at over a month uptime (I know I should probably turn it off when I'm at work, but I'm lazy).

      The myth about Windows installs necessarily degenerating and being inherently liable to viruses has to get squished soon - it does nothing for Linux. The users who you are trying to switch over will install any old thing whatever OS they are using.

      ps. I just bought a new HD to install Linux on on my computer, I'll probably go Slackware since it's what I'm most familiar with. One of the reasons I'm not running Linux yet is because the fakeraid implementation was pretty technical when I got this computer, and I didn't want to jump right in and hose the partition (which is what the Ubuntu installer suggested... fortunately I knew enough about my system partitioning to not allow it to do that).

      So you run with no firewall? No UAC? Geez. You might as leave the door wide open and put a light on. Sure the security of Windows isn't the best ever, but I've found that some is certainly better than nothing. I mean do you use flash? You know that there are like a million exploits right there right? And with no anti-virus scanner or anything, how would you even know if you were infected?

    14. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Voulnet · · Score: 1

      Do you check your connections periodically to try and make sure your PC isn't calling back to the mother(bot)ship?

    15. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by bami · · Score: 1

      I doubt as sponsors, more as participants.

    16. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And with no anti-virus scanner or anything, how would you even know if you were infected?

      He wouldn't know, of course. Could be he's on dial-up, the malware is less likely to get users with a useless, slow connection. :)

      But seriously, there are lots of dorks on /. who brag about "never been infected"; it's obvious they don't know what they're doing and are running a spambot or worse. Remember, the average time it takes for a fresh winstall to be compromised is twelve (12) minutes!

    17. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      No amount of malware can ever drain as much performance as Norton Antivirus.

      Comment .... Of .... The .... Week ....

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    18. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by DJLuc1d · · Score: 1

      Argh! Beat me to it.

    19. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, the truth hurts doesn't it monkeyboi?

    20. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by 228e2 · · Score: 1

      No viruses

      How do you know this? Do you also do online banking from this computer?

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    21. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by amorsen · · Score: 1

      That's clever! Make the computer sufficiently slow that the malware doesn't find it worth bothering.

      I hadn't though of that. I guess I'll have to stop complaining about Norton now.

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    22. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Smauler · · Score: 1

      I run with nothing protecting me... Remote exploits which do not require user interaction are very rare, especially if you don't run Internet Explorer, I generally run open source applications and/or small 3rd party applications.

      I've been following the same policy for 10 years or so, and have had _one_ virus infection that got through, when I was running win2k. It screwed up literally about 3 files,and took about an hout to clean.

      And with no anti-virus scanner or anything, how would you even know if you were infected?

      Occasionally I'll hit an online scanner, like the trend micro one. 0 positives, except for dodgy temporary files which will never get run. Don't get me wrong, I do end up with viruses and worms and malware planted on my system... they're just never run. If I'm actually suspicious of something I want to run, I'll throw it at an online scanner.

      Regarding Flash exploits, I run flashblock (more for convenience than security) - most sites I'll block flash from just not wanting them to advertise to me.

      Basically, I've had a windows system of 2 kinds open to the world for about 10 years, and I've been hit once by a virus/malware, and then not hard at all. - I think a lot of the hysteria about windows boxes getting owned prior to updates is just that - Hysteria. I've actually got my old win2k install, bootable in my current PC still... though I haven't launched it recently.

    23. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Smauler · · Score: 1

      I don't _know_ it. Neither does anyone. Antivirus does nothing against 99% of online bank fraud, which is caused by users being ignorant (I mean that in the true sense).

      I don't do any of my banking online at all.

    24. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      No amount of malware can ever drain as much performance as Norton Antivirus.

      Don't say things like that - you'll only encourage them. Both the malware authors and Norton - both aspiring to new depths of reduced performance.

      Too late ; you said it. Just shoulder the blame and follow the rest of the scapegoats over the cliff edge.

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  2. Ohh, can we? can we? can we? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can we nuke the site from orbit?

    1. Re:Ohh, can we? can we? can we? by sco08y · · Score: 1

      Bambam, this is Grover.

      Grover, this is Bambam.

      Bambam, this is Grover. Request, orbital strike, thermonuclear payload, TRP Malcon.

      Grover, this is Bambam, send nuclear authorization codes.

      Bambam, this is Grover, authorization code follows, "kill it with fire."

      Shot over.

      Shout out.

      Splash over.

      Splash out.

      Bambam, this is Grover, fire for effect.

    2. Re:Ohh, can we? can we? can we? by ZosX · · Score: 1

      Can we nuke the site from orbit?

      How is this remotely a troll? This is the best idea I've heard all day!

    3. Re:Ohh, can we? can we? can we? by Mitchell314 · · Score: 1

      You've never read/watched Andromeda Strain, have you?

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    4. Re:Ohh, can we? can we? can we? by ZosX · · Score: 1

      Can't say I have. :)

    5. Re:Ohh, can we? can we? can we? by Mitchell314 · · Score: 1

      Well then, if you take advise from strangers on /., the old Andromeda Strain movie is one that I would recommend. :)

      Not the new movie though, I personally didn't care for it much.

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    6. Re:Ohh, can we? can we? can we? by ZosX · · Score: 1

      I'll have to check it out.

  3. All our rotten eggs in one basket... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Take off and nuke the site from Orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

    1. Re:All our rotten eggs in one basket... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nuking those guys would be ethical murder.

    2. Re:All our rotten eggs in one basket... by MarkRose · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That won't work. Malware is an ecological/economic niche, and someone(s) or something will fill it.

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    3. Re:All our rotten eggs in one basket... by pinkfalcon · · Score: 1

      I was thinking of the exact same quote when I read this....

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    4. Re:All our rotten eggs in one basket... by kenrblan · · Score: 4, Funny

      That won't work. Malware is an ecological/economic niche, and someone(s) or something will fill it.

      Perhaps you are right, but nuking from orbit would be a significant deterrent. Besides, this could become an annual event. Having a contractor like Blackwater nuke it annually would open new jobs for malware enthusiasts each year. There would be construction jobs to rebuild the convention site. Just think of the economic impact! Additionally, it could serve as a method of population control. /s

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    5. Re:All our rotten eggs in one basket... by mark72005 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Must not be, or he would propose invade&occupy

    6. Re:All our rotten eggs in one basket... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now THAT's what I call a burning man festival.

    7. Re:All our rotten eggs in one basket... by Badbone · · Score: 2, Funny

      Considering the group, I think they have no problem at all with population control.

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    8. Re:All our rotten eggs in one basket... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would make me feel better, as I sit here waiting on a virus scan.
      OOPs two trojans so far, thats with old def's

    9. Re:All our rotten eggs in one basket... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to Orbitz's Terms of Service, we can't use their website to nuke anyone or anything. Besides, why would you use Orbitz? I say we take off and Shatner them from Priceline.

  4. Bad analogy is bad by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We need to create new, more virulent biological weapons to improve medicine.

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    1. Re:Bad analogy is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry. I dont follow you.

      Can you give me a car analogy?

    2. Re:Bad analogy is bad by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      Best way to make cars safer is to crash-test them.

    3. Re:Bad analogy is bad by easterberry · · Score: 1

      best way to make cars safer is to hire people to randomly sabotage people's cars

    4. Re:Bad analogy is bad by natehoy · · Score: 1

      We need to take perfectly good cars and figure out ways to intentionally crash them under test conditions, so manufacturers know what works and what doesn't under controlled conditions and have the opportunity to determine points of failure and how to work around them.

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    5. Re:Bad analogy is bad by DamienRBlack · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Best way to make cars safer is to put more dangerous people on the road.

    6. Re:Bad analogy is bad by shadowrat · · Score: 1

      We need bad laws to make better lawyers.

    7. Re:Bad analogy is bad by Garble+Snarky · · Score: 1

      You know, if consumer technology ever gets to the point that sk1rpt k1dd1es can mess with DNA and create biological weapons from scratch... I'm pretty sure I will want researchers investigating the creation and mitigation of biological weapons.

    8. Re:Bad analogy is bad by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      We need to create new, more virulent biological weapons to improve medicine.

      Actually, the government has active biowarfare labs churning out new and more virulent bugs specifically so they can create new vaccines and targeted drugs.

      Every now and then they discover something that is useful outside the field of biochem weapons.

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    9. Re:Bad analogy is bad by mark72005 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      best way to make Soviet Russia is to watch YOU!

    10. Re:Bad analogy is bad by hedwards · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod points left. That's precisely the point, by definition malware is bad, it isn't like ethical hacking which is a dubious practice, malware is uniformly bad. The only instance that I could possibly imagine an exception to that would be law enforcement taps, but even that's questionable.

    11. Re:Bad analogy is bad by hedwards · · Score: 1

      That's not correct. They develop the bugs so that they have something to theoretically use on the other side as a hail Mary, they develop the drugs on the off chance that some of us survive and hopefully none of them. What you're proposing is nonsense, they don't decide that "hey we need a new vaccine," it's more like "hey we need the ability to wipe out everybody else."

      But yes from time to time there's useful stuff that comes out of it as a pure accident.

    12. Re:Bad analogy is bad by beschra · · Score: 1

      Now you're just talkin' crazy talk.

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    13. Re:Bad analogy is bad by Ohrion · · Score: 1

      Wait what? Since when is ethical hacking dubious?! If I had mod points, you would be modded as a troll. Also, there are very good reasons for ethical malware creation. These are the guys who do research for anti-virus and security firms, not released to the wild. Learning how to do it, so code will be available to STOP or prevent it. If Microsoft and other software companies don't have people at this conference, then they are losing a great opportunity to gain knowledge that can be used to prevent this stuff.

    14. Re:Bad analogy is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      god damn fucking boo!

      give this fucking meme a rest

    15. Re:Bad analogy is bad by grcumb · · Score: 1

      Wait what? Since when is ethical hacking dubious?! If I had mod points, you would be modded as a troll.

      Then it's a good thing you don't have points (and possibly the reason why).

      If you disagree, rebut the argument with evidence and reason. Modding people down for being wrong (in your opinion) is childish and, most important of all, unpersuasive.

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    16. Re:Bad analogy is bad by treeves · · Score: 1

      Remotely, while they are being driven on the interstate.

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    17. Re:Bad analogy is bad by mark72005 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      on Slashdot meme memes YOU!

    18. Re:Bad analogy is bad by Ohrion · · Score: 1

      I do have mod points today, however I did not have any left prior to responding the first time. Modding people down for trollish comments is perfectly acceptable. Telling someone that their respectable and difficult job is "dubious" is really trollish. As for reason, I gave reason in my response. Evidence is not called for in this case; reason may suffice. If you do not believe that to be the case, give evidence yourself so I can see what kind you require to satisfy you.

  5. Seriously... by boneclinkz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I love it when guys like this try and come off as if they provide some sort of legitimate service, and that they have an actual organized "community."

    What's next?

    Pedocon: Discussing the tools and tactics of the new generation of pedophiles, to enable parents to better protect their children.

    1. Re:Seriously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pedocon: Discussing the tools and tactics of the new generation of pedophiles, to enable parents to better protect their children.

      That's not how you spell Comiket.

    2. Re:Seriously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Discussing the tools and tactics of the new generation of pedophiles, to enable parents to better protect their children.

      You know, just this bit actually sounds quite reasonable to me... not in the sense of a conference of, by and for pedophiles, but generally, "discussing the tools and tactics" in order to "better protect" is a sound plan.

      That said - Wikipedia's article on NAMBLA also states that "As of 2005, the San Diego Union Tribune reported that NAMBLA was based in New York and San Francisco, and that it held an annual gathering in New York City and monthly meetings around the country". So there you go; PedoCon is already a reality, and in the USA to boot.

  6. This is genius by Guido+del+Confuso · · Score: 3, Funny

    Also, they're having a conference for criminals down at the local police station. Real big conference, trust me. I bet there'll be booth babes.

    1. Re:This is genius by by+(1706743) · · Score: 2, Funny

      I bet there'll be booth babes.

      I'd go for the booth babes at the criminal convention over the malware booth babes...bound to be fewer viruses...

    2. Re:This is genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the conclusion of the conference, there will be donuts and coffee. And grief counseling.

    3. Re:This is genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They won't have any evidence these attendees have done anything illegal. It is always questionable if writing malware is a crime. It shouldn't be in any jurisdiction with free speech protections. It's not much different than producing a hammer or or any other tool either. For instance code that inserts advertising into pages can be used by ISPs for legit purposes or illegitimate purposes. It all depends on the circumstances and end-user. The first user to execute the code and the network with which it is contained determines if the activity is legitimate. The writing of the code can't be criminal.

  7. after by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    They should give out free promotional USB memory devices! 100pts. for every attendee you get saying 'Let's see what's on this... oh... what an idiot...!' and facepalming/bursting into flames.

  8. It's a trap! by spidercoz · · Score: 1

    hopefully it really is

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    1. Re:It's a trap! by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

      You'd think that if anyone were going to know better than to accept an invitation from a dethroned Nigerian prince to join him on a luxury vacation in the exotic east, it would be these guys... :-/

    2. Re:It's a trap! by xaositects · · Score: 1

      to teach better tucking

  9. MalCon by Hatta · · Score: 5, Funny

    They should hold it outside, under a bunch of large canopies. Then they'd be sure to have a lot of MalCon tents there.

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    1. Re:MalCon by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1
      Clothiers could set up booths from which to hawk malwear.

      Participants ante up some money to compete at writing the best (worst?) malware using an interpreted language. The pooled entrance fees would be placed into the Script Kitty for distribution to the winner.

      The possibilities are endless.

    2. Re:MalCon by beschra · · Score: 1

      Ouch!

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    3. Re:MalCon by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      yep makes the predator fireing solution so much simpler:-0

    4. Re:MalCon by aquila.solo · · Score: 1

      I was going to make that exact pun. My hat is off to you, sir/madam.

      To prevent this post from being a "+1" let me add the following.

  10. Correct me if I'm wrong but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't this like suggesting that we genetically engineer deadlier flu viruses? Sure it looks stupid in the short term but those of us who survive will have healthier immune systems so we'll be better off!

    Right? Right?

    1. Re:Correct me if I'm wrong but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't this like suggesting that we genetically engineer deadlier flu viruses? Sure it looks stupid in the short term but those of us who survive will have healthier immune systems so we'll be better off!

      Right? Right?

      Don't worry, I'm sure somebody is working on that too.

  11. Ethical Malcoding by guyminuslife · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ethical Malcoding: From the people who brought you:

    Ethical Terrorism
    Ethical Oppression
    Ethical Genocide
    Ethical Cannibalism
    Ethical Amorality
    ...and many, many more!

    Maybe they're hoping that by concentrating enough evil in one room, they'll create a black hole of iniquity that will flush these fuckers down a cosmic toilet.

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    1. Re:Ethical Malcoding by ArbitraryDescriptor · · Score: 1

      Ethical Amorality

      They give up their scruples so we can have more.

    2. Re:Ethical Malcoding by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

      It could very well be a way for some agencies to track malware writers, or any newcomers wanting to become the next big malware writer...set up a big FAKE malware convention, have people talk for those who listen, send out proof of concept work using code that is traceable, set up perimeter online to spot any of the same code in the wild, track all ip addresses set up for such activity, and voila, you now have a step up on the bad guys...I also tend to overdo it with watching conspiracy movies!

  12. Yeah, Right by MarkvW · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah. Like more murders lead to better murder investigations.

  13. Of opportunity by Arctech · · Score: 0, Troll

    Unironically carpet-bomb the location to hell and back.

    1. Re:Of opportunity by aquila.solo · · Score: 1

      No, just bomb them to hell; don't bring them back.

  14. Could it be the roach motel of conferences? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could it be the roach motel of conferences? Malware coders check in, but they don't check out? One could only hope.

  15. I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will this convention have free, open wi-fi as well?

  16. Serial Killers by medv4380 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But isn't what you say true. Serial Killers are better murders, and they result in specialized training and expertise on the side of the police, FBI, Scotland Yard.

  17. Bill Gates ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is Bill Gates attending ? You know, the guy that's famous for spreading Windows all over the world.

  18. Call Guinness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's got to be a record for the most negative karma in one place.

    1. Re:Call Guinness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here in the states we call that Republican National Committee meetings.

  19. Well, bad for good coders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Malcoder... you mean people who write bad code?

  20. Ethical Cannibalism by JSBiff · · Score: 1

    There ain't no party like a Donner Party.

    Seriously, the situations are incredibly rare, but I can see in true crisis situations, someone eating the flesh of another person to survive until they can get help/other sources of food, without morally transgressing. I could see a parent, seeing their family on the verge of starvation, giving of themselves (quite literally), so their children could survive. I think such situations could very well be ethical.

    1. Re:Ethical Cannibalism by guyminuslife · · Score: 1

      Well, sure, and if SkyNet is destroying all humans and you can stop it by infecting it with a nasty virus, then you're a hero. But that's not really what we're talking about.

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  21. Organizer has impressive credentials* by bl8n8r · · Score: 1
    • professional security researcher
    • authored custom tools for hacking
    • member of the prestigious national security database
    • discovered vulnerabilities in pizzahut
    • presenter at clubhack

    * http://malcon.org/2010/workshops/MalConMalwareAnalysis2010.pdf

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    1. Re:Organizer has impressive credentials* by hedwards · · Score: 1

      So, you're saying that he just has a stunning lack of common sense or ethics?

    2. Re:Organizer has impressive credentials* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you win a conference ?

  22. Car Bomb by sycodon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If ever a car bomb was an appropriate response to anything, this is it.

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  23. Thanks for the heads up... by GigG · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a great place for the FBI and every other nation's federal law enforcement bodies set up and find out who the a-holes are.

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  24. Checklist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tickets... check. Passport... check. Baseball bat... check. All set!

  25. This is like having a conference for nuke makers by mysidia · · Score: 1

    Under the guise of "helping citizens to develop better detection and understanding of Weapons of Mass Destruction"

    Surely weapons of mass destruction do less damage, if they're better understood, and more people know about what techniques are need to make them and how to get around pitfalls and difficulties in constructing WMDs, right?

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  27. Nigerian Email Conference by mattack2 · · Score: 1

    If you like this conference, maybe you'll like the Nigerian Email Conference: http://j-walk.com/other/conf/

  28. You leave me no choice but to invoke the power of by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    ... the Toilet of Power!

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  29. Meeting in Mumbai, huh? by unitron · · Score: 1

    If only they'd scheduled it 2 years sooner.

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    I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

  30. Yep by DFurno2003 · · Score: 0

    It is being held at the Palace of Prince Barrister Azeez, but he will need you to send him $5,000 us dollars as security deposit on your room.

  31. Where are terrorists when you need them? by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

    Seriously, that's one place where killing of attendees is a perfectly valid reaction of a sane person.

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  32. More car accidents to understand drunk driving by Fryth · · Score: 1

    This is insane. Smart people already understand how malware works. This reminds me of Calvin's dad in Calvin and Hobbes saying "____ builds character" no matter what the thing is. Sometimes things are a negative and they're already fully understood that way. That's the way it is.

    Bruce Schneier is right here; there is no need for a conference of malware developers.

  33. In the words of the late Kenny Everett... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Round em up, Put em in a field, and Bomb the Bastards"