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New QuickTime Flaw Bypasses ASLR, DEP

Trailrunner7 writes "A Spanish security researcher has discovered a new vulnerability in Apple's QuickTime software that can be used to bypass both ASLR and DEP on current versions of Windows and give an attacker control of a remote PC. The flaw apparently results from a parameter from an older version of QuickTime that was left in the code by mistake. It was discovered by Ruben Santamarta of Wintercore, who said the vulnerability can be exploited remotely via a malicious Web site. On a machine running Internet Explorer on Windows 7, Vista or XP with QuickTime 7.x or 6.x installed, the problem can be exploited by using a heap-spraying technique. In his explanation of the details of the vulnerability and the exploit for it, Santamarta said he believes the parameter at the heart of the problem simply was not cleared out of older versions of the QuickTime code. 'The QuickTime plugin is widely installed and exploitable through IE; ASLR and DEP are not effective in this case and we will likely see this in the wild,' said HD Moore, founder of the Metasploit Project."

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  1. ew quicktime? by w00tsauce · · Score: 1, Insightful

    People still use that garbage? That's like installing real player.

    1. Re:ew quicktime? by profplump · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is QuickTime really that bad? I understand the objection to "claim all file types", but that's true of all commercial A/V systems. Beyond that, is there anything in particular I should object to about QuickTime, or is it just random Apple hate?

    2. Re:ew quicktime? by darkpixel2k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I guess it's their shitty engineering that makes my computer so stable and operational.

      Yeah. Yesterday, I plugged a Mac laptop into a projector. Apparently the Mac needs to reboot after detecting new hardware or something--so it immediately rebooted without prompting, notifying, or even asking me to save. Apple is so awesomely user-friendly. That must be their engineering commitment to build a stable and operational computer.
      Anyways--while the mac was busy rebooting, I plugged my linux laptop in. It immediately started working.

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    3. Re:ew quicktime? by DJRumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So by you reasoning, all hackers properly implement security features?

      Do you even know what ASLR and DEP are? They are not 'features' that an app uses. They are built into the OS. If the OS can be exploited to bypass these then the exposure lies in the OS.

      You seem to be missing the disconnect between what your saying and reality. If bypassing OS security was as simple as 'not properly implementing the security features available', then hackers jobs would be all to easy. They could simply opt-out of using things like Virus Scan, Firewalls, Permissions, ASLR, or DEP.

    4. Re:ew quicktime? by Techman83 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My facts are my personal experiences over the years, so take that as a testimonial of some random Internet user. But for a better and more complete explanation the quicktime alternative was written for a reason and the facts stated here may go a long way to let you know why. I mean seriously a picture viewer? Also, why on earth would a I want a _Video Codec_ to install a system service for updating and another one for making quicktime load faster for that 1 time every six months I'll use it. Applications that behave in this manner are a personal pet hat of mine (I repackage applications for a living) and Apple are big culprits for doing this (they are not alone here, I'm looking at you Adobe).

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  2. Re:Itunes requires quicktime by Lehk228 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    bonzi buddy was pretty widely installed too.

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  3. Re:Hold on by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If a badly-written program can circumvent ASLR and DEP for itself, then aren't DEP and ASLR a bit useless?

    In terms of preventing malware from running, no, they're an extra roadblock, but they are certainly not the hardest to overcome.

    How does a badly-written, ancient program "bypass" such measures?

    By linking the exploit to MS provided software included with Windows that does not use ASLR. From the article, "The gadgets come from Windows Live messenger dlls that are loaded by default on IE and have no ASLR flag,"

    The Quicktime problem is that someone can get arbitrary code to try to execute on your box in the first place. That only happens because of the Quicktime flaw.

    Are DEP and ASLR really that worthless that "old programs" compiled before they came along are allowed to do anything?

    This isn't about old programs. This is the current version of Quicktime. This is about old code in the current version. Code that should never have shipped in the first place. But, until DEP and ASLR are applied to everything that is on a huge number of boxes and/or application level sandboxing or access control becomes robust DEP and ASLR are not very effective.

    What's Quicktime doing differently to every other old, insecure program out there that makes it more of a risk?

    The Quicktime part of this exploit isn't all that unusual. It's just run of the mill except for being the result of programmers' backdoor shortcut code that should never have gone out in the production release. The bypassing of ASLR in this case, was more interesting to me.

  4. Ummm, question? by multimediavt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    FTFA:

    The gadgets come from Windows Live messenger dlls that are loaded by default on IE and have no ASLR flag.

    Wouldn't that be an IE bug at this point that QuickTime is exploiting, not so much a QuickTime bug? I'm not apologizing for Apple not cleaning up their code after they removed a feature (RTFA!), but seems like MS is just as much to blame for this one with the WindowsLive DLL being loaded by default and having no security on it.

    Just saying ... if you RTFA and don't just bash QT all day.

  5. YA ALL MISSING IT!! by stilesalaska · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Am I missing something here? Apple bashing? Hm seems to the that other programs had this too. Like VLC!! They fixed their program! IT is just not Quick Time! It is so funny reading these post and boy Are there some people here that DON'T READ! JUST BASH! Old version of VLC would be able to do the same thing And Open Office!!! Just sounds like A MS problem not just a Quick Time, Vlc, Openoffice etc...