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Old People Enjoy Reading Negative Stories About Young

A study by Dr. Silvia Knobloch-Westerwick and co-author Matthias Hastall suggests that your grandma's self-esteem gets a boost when she hears about the stupid things young people do. "Living in a youth centered culture, they may appreciate a boost in self-esteem. That's why they prefer the negative stories about younger people, who are seen as having a higher status in our society," said Dr. Silvia Knobloch-Westerwick. From the article: "All the adults in the study were shown what they were led to believe was a test version of a new online news magazine. They were also given a limited time to look over either a negative and positive version of 10 pre-selected articles. Each story was also paired with a photograph depicting someone of either the younger or the older age group. The researchers found that older people were more likely to choose to read negative articles about those younger than themselves. They also tended to show less interest in articles about older people, whether negative or positive."

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  1. They have a saying by oldhack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The youth is wasted on the young, but the decrepitude is aptly deployed on the geezers.

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  2. Old People Enjoy Reading Negative Stories About Yo by BergZ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That would explain why we've been told, since the beginning of time, that society is collapsing and "kids have no respect these days":
    "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
    ~ Socrates (399 BC)

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  3. Re:Get off my LAWN! by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Trip and break your arm getting off my lawn! "

    (which reminds me of the old joke...

    A young person in a sports car cuts off an old lady in a Cadillac.

    the old lady honks in irritation and the young person shouts out, "you were too slow! I'm younger and faster!"

    to which the old lady guns her Cadillac into the sports car shouting, "Well I'm old and insured!"

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  4. Re:Old People Enjoy Reading Negative Stories About by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

    ~ Socrates (399 BC)

    Unfortunately, there is no evidence that Socrates ever said that. Your quote first appeared in the book Personality and Adjustment in 1953. There is no evidence of the quote before that date. See

      http://www.bartleby.com/73/195.html
      http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=398104

  5. Re:Old People Enjoy Reading Negative Stories About by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unfortunately, there is no evidence that Socrates ever said that. Your quote first appeared in the book Personality and Adjustment in 1953. There is no evidence of the quote before that date. See

    If you want to get technical about it, there is no direct evidence of Socrates saying anything. Most of what we know about him is through second hand accounts.

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  6. Youth-centered culture? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Youth-centered culture? Is that why the boomers are doing everything they can to ensure that no subsequent generation will have the same prosperity they did?

  7. And then... by twoallbeefpatties · · Score: 4, Funny

    Followed by, "Low-Digit Slashdotters Enjoy Reading Stories About the Failures of Other Websites."

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  8. Control Group? by KnownIssues · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How does this compare with young people's enjoyment of negative vs. positive storeis about old people? Because unless such a study shows that young people enjoy reading positive stories about older people more than negative stories, I don't see that this study has shown anything surprising or interesting. In fact, I don't see how this wouldn't boil down to "People in Group A enjoy reading negative stories about opposite Group B". I bet Democratics enjoy reading negative stories about Republics, Atheists about Christians, Children about Parents, Men about Women, Gamers about Non-Gamers, Nerds about Non-Nerds, Straights about Gays, I could go on.

    1. Re:Control Group? by Trintech · · Score: 4, Informative
      As I pointed out in another post later on, the physorg writeup of this story was much more thorough.

      From the physorg article:

      This study came about because a previous study by the same researchers, using this same data, had produced unexpected results, Knobloch-Westerwick said. The original study had hypothesized that people prefer media messages that portray people like themselves - people of the same age and the same gender, in this case. Overall, the original study found that was indeed true. However, the researchers were puzzled by the fact that older people in that first study seemed as equally interested in stories about younger people as they were in stories about older people like themselves.

      This is what makes the study interesting and why it can't be chalked up to 'I don't like people who disagree with me'. Its too bad the summery failed to mention this.

  9. I don't buy this study by fuego451 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the blurb at the top, it sounds as though the researchers could have misinterpreted their results. I can't imagine an old fuck (love ya Georgie) like me getting an ego boost from seeing young folk fail, except for the mentally challenged or those in the beginning stages of dementia. I don't have much time left and it does my heart good to see younger men and women succeeding in every human endeavor around the world which, of course, includes my children, grandchildren, nieces and nephews.

  10. Re:Old People Enjoy Reading Negative Stories About by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Didn't their society end up collapsing?

    Yes, and it collapsed because their warrior class spent all their time playing "oil the spear" with young boys. See? Kids destroyed ancient Greece. Q.E.D.

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  11. Re:Old People Enjoy Reading Negative Stories About by smellsofbikes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

    ~ Socrates (399 BC)

    Unfortunately, there is no evidence that Socrates ever said that. Your quote first appeared in the book Personality and Adjustment in 1953. There is no evidence of the quote before that date. See

    http://www.bartleby.com/73/195.html http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=398104

    Although, from that second link, they make it clear that Plato claimed Socrates had made statements to that general effect, and Plato himself had directly stated something similar -- so while Socrates may not have said those specific words, it's pretty clear that both Socrates and Plato were saying things that were so similar as to be practically identical when the vagaries of translation are taken into account, as did Hesiod at roughly the same time. So the OP's point, that "the kids these days are all lousy slackers" was being made 3000 years ago, is still valid.

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