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Li-Ion Batteries Get Green Seal of Approval

thecarchik writes "It is not an easy task to compare the environmental effects of battery powered cars to those caused by conventionally fueled automobiles. The degree to which manufacture, usage and disposal of the batteries used to store the necessary electrical energy are detrimental to the environment is not exactly known. Now, for the first time, a team of Empa scientists have made a detailed life cycle assessment (LCA) or ecobalance of lithium-ion (Li-ion) batteries, in particular the chemically improved (i.e. more environmentally friendly) version of the ones most frequently used in electric vehicles. Researchers decided to find out for sure. They calculated the ecological footprints of electric cars fitted with Li-ion batteries, taking into account all possible relevant factors, from those associated with the production of individual parts all the way through to the scrapping of the vehicle and the disposal of the remains, including the operation of the vehicle during its lifetime."

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  1. Hmm, the source is interesting by afidel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's a research group focused on bringing academic lab work to the commercial world, I can't imagine that they would possibly have any bias for new technologies =) I'm not saying their methods are flawed, but since there's no actual paper available just a press release I'll take it with a grain of NaCl until I can read their actual work. I've seen too many vendor TCO claims to be swayed without the detailed disclosure.

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    1. Re:Hmm, the source is interesting by aethogamous · · Score: 5, Informative

      ...but since there's no actual paper available...

      Link to the actually available paper: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/es903729a

    2. Re:Hmm, the source is interesting by Rei · · Score: 5, Informative

      Um... huh?

      Thanks, well they assume a battery technology that's not commercially available

      Oh really? Then what are they putting in the Volt? Or the Leaf? LiMn2O4 is one of the most popular chemistries for EVs. Here, want to buy some?

      To be fair, their wording could have been clearer. Nickel and cobalt-based li-ions currently dominate the market. But LiMn2O4 absolutely are already out on the market, and have been for years. Their main competitor is LiFePO4. Both chemistries offer much better cycle life, stability, and power than traditional cathodes, at the cost of lower energy density. They used to be a lot more expensive, but their prices have been falling, and they'll probably be cheaper within the next few years.

      a maximum vehicle lifetime of 92k miles

      No, they assume a vehicle lifespan of 240,000 km (pgs 2 and 4). They assume two batteries used per vehicle over it's lifespan (one replacement) -- even though most upcoming mass-market EVs are being *warrantied* for 8-10 years.

      a lithium extraction technology that's low energy but unlikely to scale to widespread usage of the lithium for transportation

      Huh? What they describe is the standard way of producing lithium carbonate. And energy to produce a product generally declines as you scale up, rather than increasing. And the lithium extraction is only 1.9% of the battery's energy consumption anyway. The biggest chunk is aluminum, at 15.1%. So even if you have to jump to spodumene, like they mention (you wouldn't jump straight there, by the way -- you'd first use lithium hydroxide, like is found in Nevada), it would hardly change the picture.

      Lithium is just such a small part of the overall picture; the only reason people focus on it is it's in the name. As they make clear, it's the bulk metals (aluminum, copper, etc) and the roasting of the cathode that takes most of the energy of production.

      and finally they don't take recycling into account but rather attribute all inputs to virgin materials.

      They specifically note that recycling would *improve* the picture for BEVs (bottom of page 5 / top of page 6)

      Still if you tweak the numbers towards a more realistic mix you still come out with battery powered vehicles being no worse than ICE unless the battery vehicle is primarily powered by coal.

      Tweak nothing. That would take a complete rewrite with absurd bogus numbers to get a breakeven value. The comparison numbers aren't even close, and coal only increases the total energy 13.4% (page 4). BEVs blow ICEs away.

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  2. Missing factor by T+Murphy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Li-Ion batteries are in fact very bad for the environment: by reducing reliance upon fossil fuels, demand for fossil fuels drops, which reduces prices, which encourages future use, which reduces pressure to research green alternative energy sources, which ultimately means more pollution. Conclusion: drive a Hummer, it's the new green.

    1. Re:Missing factor by DamienRBlack · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We're going to run out of fossil fuels sooner or later. Environmental concerns aside we should be investing in renewable power sources. The market needs a little nudge in the right direction even without pollution worries. Imagine a world where power is plentiful and cheap. Imagine the technologies that could be implemented, the research that could be done. Imagine grow lights in remote areas for food. Imagine water filtration systems everywhere. Imagine automatic manufacturing on demand. Imagine constant high speed transportation all over the world and beyond. All for 1000th the price it would cost today because power is dirt cheap. This type of progress isn't possible while we remain tethered on fossil fuels. It has a limited supply to it will simply always be too expensive.

    2. Re:Missing factor by DamienRBlack · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh I know it won't happen in my lifetime. I just think it is good to keep the end goal in site no matter how far away it is.

    3. Re:Missing factor by DamienRBlack · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah, well. Thank you for your incredible lack of specificity. I'm glad you replied to further insult me, yet didn't clarify yourself. It shows where your priorities are.

  3. Re:hmmm by Black+Gold+Alchemist · · Score: 4, Informative

    This study takes in to account all those factors and says you're wrong.

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  4. Re:Lithium peak by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative
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  5. Re:Lithium peak by Black+Gold+Alchemist · · Score: 5, Funny

    Peak lithium is a Li!

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  6. Re:Hasty Disposal by Cochonou · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are you sure this is the original battery ? My anecdotal evidence on a dozen of samples tells me that after about 6 years, most laptop Li-On batteries cannot hold charge anymore.

  7. Re:Lithium peak by Rei · · Score: 3, Informative

    Please read the GP. Thanks.

    Also, your numbers on how much lithium is used per EV is wrong. The leaf's battery pack is about 600lbs and contains 9 pounds of lithium (1.5%).

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  8. Re:hmmm by XDirtypunkX · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or you know, it could be this well researched study is more credible than your unsupported assertion on slashdot. Just saying.